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Mon 12/27/10


Total Messages Posted: 12



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     1. 06:11 AM - updating avionics (John Long)
     2. 06:36 AM - Re: updating avionics (Francis Herr)
     3. 06:36 AM - Re: updating avionics (Georg Isenbuerger)
     4. 06:41 AM - Re: updating avionics (Steve Thomas)
     5. 07:01 AM - Re: updating avionics (William L. Paulin)
     6. 07:24 AM - Re: updating avionics (Larry Bowen)
     7. 07:46 AM - Re: updating avionics (John Grosse)
     8. 07:46 AM - Re: updating avionics (John Grosse)
     9. 08:12 AM - Re: updating avionics (Larry Mac Donald)
    10. 02:35 PM - Re: updating avionics (William L. Paulin)
    11. 02:35 PM - Re: updating avionics (William L. Paulin)
    12. 10:02 PM - Re: updating avionics (William J Hamilton)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:11:03 AM PST US
    Subject: updating avionics
    From: John Long <johnlong63@gmail.com>
    I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, GTX-327. with a 696. All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft. My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a MacBook. Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the updates should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Windows 7. Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I need to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airport for the upgrades? John (fiberglas finishing)


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    Time: 06:36:44 AM PST US
    From: Francis Herr <fherr@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: updating avionics
    John, I too own Mac computers and have the same upgrade issues. To solve them, I bought a $70 desktop from Craig's list for the airport. I can download files to a Mac and take them to the PC via thumb drive. I am not familiar with the Dynon upgrade process; however, my system uses an SD card for updates, which means the PC can be anywhere. Francis On Dec 27, 2010, at 9:07 AM, John Long wrote: I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, GTX-327. with a 696. All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft. My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a MacBook. Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the updates should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Windows 7. Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I need to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airport for the upgrades? John (fiberglas finishing)


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    Time: 06:36:45 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: updating avionics
    From: Georg Isenbuerger <gi@av8r.de>
    John, Do not use Bootcamp. You would have to reboot the MAC whenever switching Ope rating Systems. Better use virtualisation: Parallels for about 80 Dollars or Virtualbox for free. You install Win 7 in a so called virtual container. It allows you to run both at the same time without the hassle to partition the hard disk and rebooting all the time. Regards George Am 27.12.2010 um 15:07 schrieb John Long <johnlong63@gmail.com>: > I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, GTX-327. w ith a 696. > > All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft. > > My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a MacBoo k. > > Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the updates s hould work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Windows 7. > > Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I need to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airport for t he upgrades? > > John > (fiberglas finishing) > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== =========


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    Time: 06:41:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: updating avionics
    From: Steve Thomas <lists@stevet.net>
    What is the method for updating the device? Is it a simple matter of transferring files or does Dynon require a proprietary software program to do it? I have Blue Mountain equipment and it uses a simple FTP procedure to update files. So, any computer with a good FTP client can do it. If Dynon uses proprietary software, all I can say is, "Shame on them." Having said that, running bootcamp on a Mac is the same thing as having a Windows based machine. In some early testing, Windows ran faster under bootcamp than it did on some Windows machines. I use Parallels on my Mac and that allows me to run Windows in a window on top of OS X. Much more convenient. I see no reason to buy a specialized machine. Steve Thomas ________________________________________________________________________ On Dec 27, 2010, at 6:07 AM, John Long wrote: > I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, GTX-327. with a 696. > > All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft. > > My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a MacBook. > > Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the updates should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Windows 7. > > Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I need to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airport for the upgrades? > > John > (fiberglas finishing)


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    Time: 07:01:04 AM PST US
    From: "William L. Paulin" <wpaulin@usa.net>
    Subject: Re: updating avionics
    Agreed on the don't use Bootcamp. I use VMWare Fusion, instead of Parallels and it works fine too ... but I have not used it with avionics ... just several other PC based software. Bill ********************************* William L. Paulin, Ph.D. PaulinNeal Associates 1575 South Forest Drive Prescott, AZ 86303 Cell +1 858 722 2905 Office +1 760 720 2905 Europe +358 40 720 4047 wpaulin@paulinneal.com On Dec 27, 2010, at 6:36 AM, Georg Isenbuerger wrote: John, Do not use Bootcamp. You would have to reboot the MAC whenever switching Operating Systems. Better use virtualisation: Parallels for about 80 Dollars or Virtualbox for free. You install Win 7 in a so called virtual container. It allows you to run both at the same time without the hassle to partition the hard disk and rebooting all the time. Regards George Am 27.12.2010 um 15:07 schrieb John Long <johnlong63@gmail.com>: > I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, GTX-327. with a 696. > > All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft. > > My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a MacBook. > > Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the updates should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Windows 7. > > Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I need to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airport for the upgrades? > > John > (fiberglas finishing) > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D


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    Time: 07:24:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: updating avionics
    From: Larry Bowen <larry@bowenaero.com>
    Virtualbox might work. http://virtualbox.org -- Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 9:57 AM, William L. Paulin <wpaulin@usa.net> wrote: > Agreed on the don't use Bootcamp. > > I use VMWare Fusion, instead of Parallels and it works fine too ... but I > have not used it with avionics ... just several other PC based software. > > Bill > ********************************* > William L. Paulin, Ph.D. > PaulinNeal Associates > 1575 South Forest Drive > Prescott, AZ 86303 > > Cell +1 858 722 2905 > Office +1 760 720 2905 > Europe +358 40 720 4047 > > wpaulin@paulinneal.com > > On Dec 27, 2010, at 6:36 AM, Georg Isenbuerger wrote: > > John, > > Do not use Bootcamp. You would have to reboot the MAC whenever switching > Operating Systems. Better use virtualisation: Parallels for about 80 Dollars > or Virtualbox for free. You install Win 7 in a so called virtual container. > It allows you to run both at the same time without the hassle to partition > the hard disk and rebooting all the time. > > Regards > > George > > > Am 27.12.2010 um 15:07 schrieb John Long <johnlong63@gmail.com>: > > I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, GTX-327. > with a 696. > > All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft. > > My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a > MacBook. > > Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the updates > should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Windows 7. > > Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I need to > look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airport for > the upgrades? > > John > (fiberglas finishing) > > * > * > > * > > 3D============================================ > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://www.aeroelectric.com%22">www.aeroelectric.com > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://www.buildersbooks.com%22">www.buildersbooks.com > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://www.homebuilthelp.com%22">www.homebuilthelp.com > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://www.matronics.com/contribution%22">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > 3D============================================ > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List%22">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List > 3D============================================ > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://forums.matronics.com%22">http://forums.matronics.com > 3D=============================================* > > > * > >


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    Time: 07:46:49 AM PST US
    From: John Grosse <grosseair@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: updating avionics
    I have a similar situation, and I used Bootcamp to set it up. You do have to reboot to load Windows, but I only do it once or twice a month so it's really no big deal. I bought a cheap copy of Windows on eBay and it works fine. I wouldn't waste my money on Win 7 unless I had to. The Mac is so much better that I really only use Windows for one program. Check with Dynon and see what version they require to do the upgrades. Good luck. John Grosse >> >> My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have >> a MacBook. >> >> Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the >> updates should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating >> purchasing Windows 7. >> >> Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things >> I need to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take >> to the airport for the upgrades? >> >> John >> (fiberglas finishing) >>


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    Time: 07:46:51 AM PST US
    From: John Grosse <grosseair@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: updating avionics
    I have a similar situation, and I used Bootcamp to set it up. You do have to reboot to load Windows, but I only do it once or twice a month so it's really no big deal. I bought a cheap copy of Windows on eBay and it works fine. I wouldn't waste my money on Win 7 unless I had to. The Mac is so much better that I really only use Windows for one program. Check with Dynon and see what version they require to do the upgrades. Good luck. John Grosse Larry Bowen wrote: > Virtualbox might work. > > http://virtualbox.org > > -- > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 9:57 AM, William L. Paulin <wpaulin@usa.net > <mailto:wpaulin@usa.net>> wrote: > > Agreed on the don't use Bootcamp. > > I use VMWare Fusion, instead of Parallels and it works fine too > ... but I have not used it with avionics ... just several other PC > based software. > > Bill > ********************************* > William L. Paulin, Ph.D. > PaulinNeal Associates > 1575 South Forest Drive > Prescott, AZ 86303 > > Cell +1 858 722 2905 > Office +1 760 720 2905 > Europe +358 40 720 4047 > > wpaulin@paulinneal.com <mailto:wpaulin@paulinneal.com> > > On Dec 27, 2010, at 6:36 AM, Georg Isenbuerger wrote: > > John, > > Do not use Bootcamp. You would have to reboot the MAC whenever > switching Operating Systems. Better use virtualisation: Parallels > for about 80 Dollars or Virtualbox for free. You install Win 7 in > a so called virtual container. It allows you to run both at the > same time without the hassle to partition the hard disk and > rebooting all the time. > > Regards > > George > > > Am 27.12.2010 um 15:07 schrieb John Long <johnlong63@gmail.com > <mailto:johnlong63@gmail.com>>: > >> I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, >> GTX-327. with a 696. >> >> All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft. >> >> My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have >> a MacBook. >> >> Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the >> updates should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating >> purchasing Windows 7. >> >> Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things >> I need to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take >> to the airport for the upgrades? >> >> John >> (fiberglas finishing) >> * >> >> * > * > > 3D============================================ > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://www.aeroelectric.com%22">www.aeroelectric.com <http://www.aeroelectric.com> > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://www.buildersbooks.com%22">www.buildersbooks.com <http://www.buildersbooks.com> > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://www.homebuilthelp.com%22">www.homebuilthelp.com <http://www.homebuilthelp.com> > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://www.matronics.com/contribution%22">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > 3D============================================ > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List%22">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List > 3D============================================ > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://forums.matronics.com%22">http://forums.matronics.com > 3D============================================ > * > > > * > > _blank">www.aeroelectric.com > .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com > ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > * > > > * > > *


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    Time: 08:12:59 AM PST US
    From: Larry Mac Donald <lm4@juno.com>
    Subject: Re: updating avionics
    I bought "vmWare fusion 3" . It was an easy download. Then I loaded windows 95 and now I can drag and drop files between the two os systems. Really kind of cool. Larry On Dec 27, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Georg Isenbuerger wrote: > John, > > Do not use Bootcamp. You would have to reboot the MAC whenever switchi ng Operating Systems. Better use virtualisation: Parallels for about 80 Dollars or Virtualbox for free. You install Win 7 in a so called virtual container. It allows you to run both at the same time without the hassl e to partition the hard disk and rebooting all the time. > > Regards > > George > > > > Am 27.12.2010 um 15:07 schrieb John Long <johnlong63@gmail.com>: > >> I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, GTX- 327. with a 696. >> >> All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft. >> >> My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a M acBook. >> >> Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the upda tes should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Window s 7. >> >> Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I ne ed to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airp ort for the upgrades? >> >> John >> (fiberglas finishing) >> >> > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D ____________________________________________________________ Mortgage Rates Hit 2.99% If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Gov't Refi Programs http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d18b9e2171e3868c4bst05duc


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    Time: 02:35:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: updating avionics
    From: "William L. Paulin" <wpaulin@usa.net>
    I could not agree more about Mac vs. PC. Every time I use my Fusion to use a PC program, I am reminded how crumby the Microsoft world is ... and how simple the Mac is. I switched when Microsoft went to that Never Never land of charging for a "downgrade" from Vista to XP. Bill ********************************* William L. Paulin, Ph.D. PaulinNeal Associates 1575 South Forest Drive Prescott, AZ 86303 Cell +1 858 722 2905 Office +1 760 720 2905 Europe +358 40 720 4047 wpaulin@paulinneal.com On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:42 AM, John Grosse wrote: I have a similar situation, and I used Bootcamp to set it up. You do have to reboot to load Windows, but I only do it once or twice a month so it's really no big deal. I bought a cheap copy of Windows on eBay and it works fine. I wouldn't waste my money on Win 7 unless I had to. The Mac is so much better that I really only use Windows for one program. Check with Dynon and see what version they require to do the upgrades. Good luck. John Grosse >> >> My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have >> a MacBook. >> >> Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the >> updates should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating >> purchasing Windows 7. >> >> Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things >> I need to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take >> to the airport for the upgrades? >> >> John >> (fiberglas finishing) >>


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    Time: 02:35:39 PM PST US
    From: "William L. Paulin" <wpaulin@usa.net>
    Subject: Re: updating avionics
    Yes, that is what I do ... when I am forced to use a PC program. Bill *********************************** William & Sandra Paulin 1575 South Forest Drive Prescott, AZ 86303 Bill Cell +1 858 722 2905 Office +1 760 720 2905 Europe +358 40 720 4047 wpaulin@usa.net Sandy Cell +1 858 349 1729 Office +1 928 443 7739 On Dec 27, 2010, at 8:08 AM, Larry Mac Donald wrote: I bought "vmWare fusion 3" . It was an easy download. Then I loaded windows 95 and now I can drag and drop files between the two os systems. Really kind of cool. Larry On Dec 27, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Georg Isenbuerger wrote: > John, > > Do not use Bootcamp. You would have to reboot the MAC whenever switching Operating Systems. Better use virtualisation: Parallels for about 80 Dollars or Virtualbox for free. You install Win 7 in a so called virtual container. It allows you to run both at the same time without the hassle to partition the hard disk and rebooting all the time. > > Regards > > George > > > > Am 27.12.2010 um 15:07 schrieb John Long <johnlong63@gmail.com>: > >> I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, GTX-327. with a 696. >> >> All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft. >> >> My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a MacBook. >> >> Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the updates should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Windows 7. >> >> Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I need to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airport for the upgrades? >> >> John >> (fiberglas finishing) >> >> > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D > > tric.com%22">www.aeroelectric.com > ww.buildersbooks.com%22">www.buildersbooks.com > lthelp.com%22">www.homebuilthelp.com > ribution%22">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D > gator?Avionics-List%22">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D > 2">http://forums.matronics.com > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D ____________________________________________________________ Mortgage Rates Hit 2.99% If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Gov't Refi Programs SeeRefinanceRates.com


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    Time: 10:02:06 PM PST US
    From: William J Hamilton <wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au>
    Subject: Re: updating avionics
    John, Given how cheap Windows laptops (with Windows 7) have become, why leave yourself open to any hassles, particularly ones that may not be obvious, until you fire them up in the aircraft. I have observed some less than satisfactory results running the Windows emulation on a Macbook. Cheers, Bill Hamilton ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > John Long <johnlong63@gmail.com> wrote: > > I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, > GTX-327. > with a 696. > > All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft. > > My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a > MacBook. > > Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the updates > should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Windows 7. > > Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I need > to > look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airport > for > the upgrades? > > John > (fiberglas finishing)




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