---------------------------------------------------------- Avionics-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 12/30/10: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:05 AM - Re: Avionics-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 12/27/10 (John Long) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:05:24 AM PST US Subject: Avionics-List: Re: Avionics-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 12/27/10 From: John Long For all the replies on my question about avionics upgrades, Thank you. Now I have more to think about while I sand the fiberglas smooth. 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Paulin) > 6. 07:24 AM - Re: updating avionics (Larry Bowen) > 7. 07:46 AM - Re: updating avionics (John Grosse) > 8. 07:46 AM - Re: updating avionics (John Grosse) > 9. 08:12 AM - Re: updating avionics (Larry Mac Donald) > 10. 02:35 PM - Re: updating avionics (William L. Paulin) > 11. 02:35 PM - Re: updating avionics (William L. Paulin) > 12. 10:02 PM - Re: updating avionics (William J Hamilton) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:11:03 AM PST US > Subject: Avionics-List: updating avionics > From: John Long > > I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, GTX-327. > with a 696. > > All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft. > > My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a > MacBook. > > Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the updates > should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Windows 7. > > Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I need to > look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airport for > the upgrades? > > John > (fiberglas finishing) > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:36:44 AM PST US > From: Francis Herr > Subject: Re: Avionics-List: updating avionics > > John, > > I too own Mac computers and have the same upgrade issues. To solve them, > I bought a $70 desktop from Craig's list for the airport. I can download > files to a Mac and take them to the PC via thumb drive. > > I am not familiar with the Dynon upgrade process; however, my system > uses an SD card for updates, which means the PC can be anywhere. > > Francis > > > On Dec 27, 2010, at 9:07 AM, John Long wrote: > > I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, > GTX-327. with a 696. > > All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft. > > My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a > MacBook. > > Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the updates > should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Windows 7. > > Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I need > to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airport > for the upgrades? > > John > (fiberglas finishing) > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:36:45 AM PST US > Subject: Re: Avionics-List: updating avionics > From: Georg Isenbuerger > > John, > > Do not use Bootcamp. You would have to reboot the MAC whenever switching > Ope > rating Systems. Better use virtualisation: Parallels for about 80 Dollars > or > Virtualbox for free. You install Win 7 in a so called virtual container. > It > allows you to run both at the same time without the hassle to partition > the > hard disk and rebooting all the time. > > Regards > > George > > > Am 27.12.2010 um 15:07 schrieb John Long : > > > I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, GTX-327. > w > ith a 696. > > > > All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft. > > > > My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a > MacBoo > k. > > > > Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the updates > s > hould work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Windows 7. > > > > Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I need > to > look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airport for > t > he upgrades? > > > > John > > (fiberglas finishing) > > > > > ========================= > ======== > ========================= > ======== > ========================= > ======== > ========================= > ======== > > ________________________________ Message 4 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:41:20 AM PST US > Subject: Re: Avionics-List: updating avionics > From: Steve Thomas > > > What is the method for updating the device? Is it a simple matter of > transferring > files or does Dynon require a proprietary software program to do it? I > have > Blue Mountain equipment and it uses a simple FTP procedure to update files. > So, any computer with a good FTP client can do it. If Dynon uses > proprietary > software, all I can say is, "Shame on them." > > Having said that, running bootcamp on a Mac is the same thing as having a > Windows > based machine. In some early testing, Windows ran faster under bootcamp > than > it did on some Windows machines. I use Parallels on my Mac and that allows > me to run Windows in a window on top of OS X. Much more convenient. > > I see no reason to buy a specialized machine. > > > Steve Thomas > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > On Dec 27, 2010, at 6:07 AM, John Long wrote: > > > I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, GTX-327. > with > a 696. > > > > All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft. > > > > My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a > MacBook. > > > > Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the updates > should > work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Windows 7. > > > > Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I need > to look > out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airport for the > upgrades? > > > > John > > (fiberglas finishing) > > > ________________________________ Message 5 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:01:04 AM PST US > From: "William L. Paulin" > Subject: Re: Avionics-List: updating avionics > > Agreed on the don't use Bootcamp. > > I use VMWare Fusion, instead of Parallels and it works fine too ... but > I have not used it with avionics ... just several other PC based > software. > > Bill > ********************************* > William L. Paulin, Ph.D. > PaulinNeal Associates > 1575 South Forest Drive > Prescott, AZ 86303 > > Cell +1 858 722 2905 > Office +1 760 720 2905 > Europe +358 40 720 4047 > > wpaulin@paulinneal.com > > On Dec 27, 2010, at 6:36 AM, Georg Isenbuerger wrote: > > John, > > Do not use Bootcamp. You would have to reboot the MAC whenever switching > Operating Systems. Better use virtualisation: Parallels for about 80 > Dollars or Virtualbox for free. You install Win 7 in a so called virtual > container. It allows you to run both at the same time without the hassle > to partition the hard disk and rebooting all the time. > > Regards > > George > > > Am 27.12.2010 um 15:07 schrieb John Long : > > > I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, > GTX-327. with a 696. > > > > All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft. > > > > My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a > MacBook. > > > > Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the > updates should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing > Windows 7. > > > > Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I > need to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the > airport for the upgrades? > > > > John > > (fiberglas finishing) > > > > > > > 3D============== > 3D============== > 3D============== > 3D > > 3D============== > 3D============== > 3D============== > 3D > > 3D============== > 3D============== > 3D============== > 3D > > 3D============== > 3D============== > 3D============== > 3D > > > ________________________________ Message 6 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:24:06 AM PST US > Subject: Re: Avionics-List: updating avionics > From: Larry Bowen > > Virtualbox might work. > > http://virtualbox.org > > -- > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 9:57 AM, William L. Paulin > wrote: > > > Agreed on the don't use Bootcamp. > > > > I use VMWare Fusion, instead of Parallels and it works fine too ... but I > > have not used it with avionics ... just several other PC based software. > > > > Bill > > ********************************* > > William L. Paulin, Ph.D. > > PaulinNeal Associates > > 1575 South Forest Drive > > Prescott, AZ 86303 > > > > Cell +1 858 722 2905 > > Office +1 760 720 2905 > > Europe +358 40 720 4047 > > > > wpaulin@paulinneal.com > > > > On Dec 27, 2010, at 6:36 AM, Georg Isenbuerger wrote: > > > > John, > > > > Do not use Bootcamp. You would have to reboot the MAC whenever switching > > Operating Systems. Better use virtualisation: Parallels for about 80 > Dollars > > or Virtualbox for free. You install Win 7 in a so called virtual > container. > > It allows you to run both at the same time without the hassle to > partition > > the hard disk and rebooting all the time. > > > > Regards > > > > George > > > > > > Am 27.12.2010 um 15:07 schrieb John Long : > > > > I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, GTX-327. > > with a 696. > > > > All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft. > > > > My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a > > MacBook. > > > > Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the updates > > should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Windows 7. > > > > Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I need > to > > look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airport for > > the upgrades? > > > > John > > (fiberglas finishing) > > > > * > > * > > > > * > > > > 3D=========================================== > > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://www.aeroelectric.com%22"> > www.aeroelectric.com > > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://www.buildersbooks.com%22"> > www.buildersbooks.com > > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://www.homebuilthelp.com%22"> > www.homebuilthelp.com > > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://www.matronics.com/contribution%22"> > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > 3D=========================================== > > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List%22 > ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List > > 3D=========================================== > > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://forums.matronics.com%22"> > http://forums.matronics.com > > 3D=============================================* > > > > > > * > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:46:49 AM PST US > From: John Grosse > Subject: Re: Avionics-List: updating avionics > > > I have a similar situation, and I used Bootcamp to set it up. You do > have to reboot to load Windows, but I only do it once or twice a month > so it's really no big deal. I bought a cheap copy of Windows on eBay and > it works fine. I wouldn't waste my money on Win 7 unless I had to. The > Mac is so much better that I really only use Windows for one program. > Check with Dynon and see what version they require to do the upgrades. > > Good luck. > > John Grosse > > >> > >> My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have > >> a MacBook. > >> > >> Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the > >> updates should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating > >> purchasing Windows 7. > >> > >> Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things > >> I need to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take > >> to the airport for the upgrades? > >> > >> John > >> (fiberglas finishing) > >> > > > ________________________________ Message 8 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:46:51 AM PST US > From: John Grosse > Subject: Re: Avionics-List: updating avionics > > > I have a similar situation, and I used Bootcamp to set it up. You do > have to reboot to load Windows, but I only do it once or twice a month > so it's really no big deal. I bought a cheap copy of Windows on eBay and > it works fine. I wouldn't waste my money on Win 7 unless I had to. The > Mac is so much better that I really only use Windows for one program. > Check with Dynon and see what version they require to do the upgrades. > > Good luck. > > John Grosse > > Larry Bowen wrote: > > Virtualbox might work. > > > > http://virtualbox.org > > > > -- > > Larry Bowen > > Larry@BowenAero.com > > http://BowenAero.com > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 9:57 AM, William L. Paulin > > wrote: > > > > Agreed on the don't use Bootcamp. > > > > I use VMWare Fusion, instead of Parallels and it works fine too > > ... but I have not used it with avionics ... just several other PC > > based software. > > > > Bill > > ********************************* > > William L. Paulin, Ph.D. > > PaulinNeal Associates > > 1575 South Forest Drive > > Prescott, AZ 86303 > > > > Cell +1 858 722 2905 > > Office +1 760 720 2905 > > Europe +358 40 720 4047 > > > > wpaulin@paulinneal.com > > > > On Dec 27, 2010, at 6:36 AM, Georg Isenbuerger wrote: > > > > John, > > > > Do not use Bootcamp. You would have to reboot the MAC whenever > > switching Operating Systems. Better use virtualisation: Parallels > > for about 80 Dollars or Virtualbox for free. You install Win 7 in > > a so called virtual container. It allows you to run both at the > > same time without the hassle to partition the hard disk and > > rebooting all the time. > > > > Regards > > > > George > > > > > > Am 27.12.2010 um 15:07 schrieb John Long > >: > > > >> I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, > >> GTX-327. with a 696. > >> > >> All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft. > >> > >> My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have > >> a MacBook. > >> > >> Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the > >> updates should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating > >> purchasing Windows 7. > >> > >> Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things > >> I need to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take > >> to the airport for the upgrades? > >> > >> John > >> (fiberglas finishing) > >> * > >> > >> * > > * > > > > 3D=========================================== > > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://www.aeroelectric.com%22"> > www.aeroelectric.com > > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://www.buildersbooks.com%22"> > www.buildersbooks.com > > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://www.homebuilthelp.com%22"> > www.homebuilthelp.com > > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://www.matronics.com/contribution%22"> > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > 3D=========================================== > > href="x-msg://5/3D%22 > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List%22"> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List > > 3D=========================================== > > href="x-msg://5/3D%22http://forums.matronics.com%22"> > http://forums.matronics.com > > 3D=========================================== > > * > > > > > > * > > > > _blank">www.aeroelectric.com > > .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com > > ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com > > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List > > tp://forums.matronics.com > > * > > > > > > * > > > > * > > > ________________________________ Message 9 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:12:59 AM PST US > From: Larry Mac Donald > Subject: Re: Avionics-List: updating avionics > > I bought "vmWare fusion 3" . It was an easy download. > > Then I loaded windows 95 and now I can drag and drop > files between the two os systems. Really kind of cool. > Larry > > On Dec 27, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Georg Isenbuerger wrote: > > > John, > > > > > Do not use Bootcamp. You would have to reboot the MAC whenever switchi > ng Operating Systems. Better use virtualisation: Parallels for about 80 > Dollars or Virtualbox for free. You install Win 7 in a so called virtual > container. It allows you to run both at the same time without the hassl > e to partition the hard disk and rebooting all the time. > > > > > Regards > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > Am 27.12.2010 um 15:07 schrieb John Long : > > > > >> I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, GTX- > 327. with a 696. > >> > > >> All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft. > >> > > >> My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a M > acBook. > >> > > >> Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the upda > tes should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Window > s 7. > >> > > >> Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I ne > ed to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airp > ort for the upgrades? > >> > > >> John > >> (fiberglas finishing) > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > 3D============= > ============== > 3D============= > == > > 3D============= > ============== > 3D============= > == > 3D============= > ============== > 3D============= > == > 3D============= > ============== > 3D============= > == > > ____________________________________________________________ > Mortgage Rates Hit 2.99% > If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Gov't Refi Programs > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d18b9e2171e3868c4bst05duc > > ________________________________ Message 10 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:35:39 PM PST US > Subject: Re: Avionics-List: updating avionics > From: "William L. Paulin" > > > I could not agree more about Mac vs. PC. Every time I use my Fusion to use > a PC > program, I am reminded how crumby the Microsoft world is ... and how simple > the Mac is. I switched when Microsoft went to that Never Never land of > charging > for a "downgrade" from Vista to XP. > > Bill > ********************************* > William L. Paulin, Ph.D. > PaulinNeal Associates > 1575 South Forest Drive > Prescott, AZ 86303 > > Cell +1 858 722 2905 > Office +1 760 720 2905 > Europe +358 40 720 4047 > > wpaulin@paulinneal.com > > On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:42 AM, John Grosse wrote: > > > I have a similar situation, and I used Bootcamp to set it up. You do have > to reboot > to load Windows, but I only do it once or twice a month so it's really no > big deal. I bought a cheap copy of Windows on eBay and it works fine. I > wouldn't > waste my money on Win 7 unless I had to. The Mac is so much better that I > really only use Windows for one program. Check with Dynon and see what > version > they require to do the upgrades. > > Good luck. > > John Grosse > > >> > >> My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have > >> a MacBook. > >> > >> Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the > >> updates should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating > >> purchasing Windows 7. > >> > >> Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things > >> I need to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take > >> to the airport for the upgrades? > >> > >> John > >> (fiberglas finishing) > >> > > > ________________________________ Message 11 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:35:39 PM PST US > From: "William L. Paulin" > Subject: Re: Avionics-List: updating avionics > > Yes, that is what I do ... when I am forced to use a PC program. > > Bill > *********************************** > William & Sandra Paulin > 1575 South Forest Drive > Prescott, AZ 86303 > > Bill > Cell +1 858 722 2905 > Office +1 760 720 2905 > Europe +358 40 720 4047 > > wpaulin@usa.net > > Sandy > Cell +1 858 349 1729 > Office +1 928 443 7739 > > On Dec 27, 2010, at 8:08 AM, Larry Mac Donald wrote: > > I bought "vmWare fusion 3" . It was an easy download. > Then I loaded windows 95 and now I can drag and drop > files between the two os systems. Really kind of cool. > Larry > > On Dec 27, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Georg Isenbuerger wrote: > > > John, > > > > Do not use Bootcamp. You would have to reboot the MAC whenever > switching Operating Systems. Better use virtualisation: Parallels for > about 80 Dollars or Virtualbox for free. You install Win 7 in a so > called virtual container. It allows you to run both at the same time > without the hassle to partition the hard disk and rebooting all the > time. > > > > Regards > > > > George > > > > > > > > Am 27.12.2010 um 15:07 schrieb John Long : > > > >> I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, > GTX-327. with a 696. > >> > >> All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft. > >> > >> My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a > MacBook. > >> > >> Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the > updates should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing > Windows 7. > >> > >> Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I > need to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the > airport for the upgrades? > >> > >> John > >> (fiberglas finishing) > >> > >> > > > > > > > ===============3 > D============== > 3D============== > 3D > > > > tric.com%22">www.aeroelectric.com > > ww.buildersbooks.com%22">www.buildersbooks.com > > lthelp.com%22">www.homebuilthelp.com > > ribution%22">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ===============3 > D============== > 3D============== > 3D > > > gator?Avionics-List%22">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List > > > ===============3 > D============== > 3D============== > 3D > > 2">http://forums.matronics.com > > > ===============3 > D============== > 3D============== > 3D > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Mortgage Rates Hit 2.99% > If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Gov't Refi Programs > SeeRefinanceRates.com > > > ________________________________ Message 12 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:02:06 PM PST US > From: William J Hamilton > Subject: Re: Avionics-List: updating avionics > > > John, > Given how cheap Windows laptops (with Windows 7) have become, why leave > yourself > open to any hassles, particularly ones that may not be obvious, until you > fire > them up in the aircraft. > I have observed some less than satisfactory results running the Windows > emulation > on a Macbook. > Cheers, > Bill Hamilton > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > John Long wrote: > > > > I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, > > GTX-327. > > with a 696. > > > > All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft. > > > > My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a > > MacBook. > > > > Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the updates > > should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Windows 7. > > > > Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I need > > to > > look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airport > > for > > the upgrades? > > > > John > > (fiberglas finishing) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message avionics-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Avionics-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/avionics-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/avionics-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.