---------------------------------------------------------- Avionics-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/04/15: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:54 PM - Re: Re: New (Free) Aviation App (Charlie England) 2. 05:01 PM - Re: Re: New (Free) Aviation App (Charlie England) 3. 05:22 PM - Re: Re: New (Free) Aviation App (Tim Olson) 4. 06:48 PM - Re: Re: New (Free) Aviation App (Charlie England) 5. 07:24 PM - Question about the Z-19 Electrical Schematic (Stephen Johns) 6. 07:46 PM - Re: Re: New (Free) Aviation App (Tim Olson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:06 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Re: New (Free) Aviation App On 1/3/2015 9:49 PM, gbrasch wrote: > > > uuccio(at)gmail.com wrote: >> Charles, >> I may be wrong but I believe that Google Play is the same as Android. >> Sacha >> >> -- > > It is, Google Play is Android devices. > > -------- > Glenn Brasch > RV-9A Flying > 1952 Piper Tri-Pacer > Medevac Helicopter Pilot (Ret) > Tucson, Arizona > Owner, www.RVairspace.com and "Airport Courtesy Cars" Smart Phone App > www.RVairspace.com Duh... All I saw were the references to iphone, ipad, app store. Totally missed the 'Google Play' reference in the 1st line. Thanks, Charlie ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:01:09 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Re: New (Free) Aviation App >> It is, Google Play is Android devices. >> >> -------- >> Glenn Brasch >> RV-9A Flying >> 1952 Piper Tri-Pacer >> Medevac Helicopter Pilot (Ret) >> Tucson, Arizona >> Owner, www.RVairspace.com and "Airport Courtesy Cars" Smart >> Phone App >> www.RVairspace.com > > Duh... > > All I saw were the references to iphone, ipad, app store. Totally > missed the 'Google Play' reference in the 1st line. > > Thanks, > > Charlie So, next question: Why does an app that simply lists which airports have courtesy cars, need access to everything in my phone? Why do you need my identity, my schedule, my contacts, my phone, my pictures, my location, my camera, and my device ID/call info? Or is it just that you *want* all that info? Not trying to look a gift horse in the mouth, but I would like to have some confidence that it isn't the Trojan version. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:22:16 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Re: New (Free) Aviation App Charlie, where are you seeing this? I installed the app and used it, and under the privacy settings on my iPhone, I went into photos, contacts, calendar, and others, and I don't see that it has access to any of that. Tim > On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Charlie England wrote: > > > >>> It is, Google Play is Android devices. >>> >>> -------- >>> Glenn Brasch >>> RV-9A Flying >>> 1952 Piper Tri-Pacer >>> Medevac Helicopter Pilot (Ret) >>> Tucson, Arizona >>> Owner, www.RVairspace.com and "Airport Courtesy Cars" Smart Phone App >>> www.RVairspace.com >> >> Duh... >> >> All I saw were the references to iphone, ipad, app store. Totally missed the 'Google Play' reference in the 1st line. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Charlie > So, next question: > Why does an app that simply lists which airports have courtesy cars, need access to everything in my phone? Why do you need my identity, my schedule, my contacts, my phone, my pictures, my location, my camera, and my device ID/call info? > > Or is it just that you *want* all that info? > > Not trying to look a gift horse in the mouth, but I would like to have some confidence that it isn't the Trojan version. > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:48:21 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Re: New (Free) Aviation App In Android, the Google Play Store shows you everything that the app can access before you execute installation. Apparently the little i doesn't protect its users as well as it pretends. Charlie On 1/4/2015 7:21 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > Charlie, where are you seeing this? I installed the app and used it, and under the privacy settings on my iPhone, I went into photos, contacts, calendar, and others, and I don't see that it has access to any of that. > Tim > > >> On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Charlie England wrote: >> >> >> >>>> It is, Google Play is Android devices. >>>> >>>> -------- >>>> Glenn Brasch >>>> RV-9A Flying >>>> 1952 Piper Tri-Pacer >>>> Medevac Helicopter Pilot (Ret) >>>> Tucson, Arizona >>>> Owner, www.RVairspace.com and "Airport Courtesy Cars" Smart Phone App >>>> www.RVairspace.com >>> Duh... >>> >>> All I saw were the references to iphone, ipad, app store. Totally missed the 'Google Play' reference in the 1st line. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Charlie >> So, next question: >> Why does an app that simply lists which airports have courtesy cars, need access to everything in my phone? Why do you need my identity, my schedule, my contacts, my phone, my pictures, my location, my camera, and my device ID/call info? >> >> Or is it just that you *want* all that info? >> >> Not trying to look a gift horse in the mouth, but I would like to have some confidence that it isn't the Trojan version. >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:32 PM PST US From: Stephen Johns Subject: Avionics-List: Question about the Z-19 Electrical Schematic Hi Bob, I have mostly completed wiring up my Titan T-51 Mustang using your schematic Z-19. "Dual Battery, Single Alternator, Electronically Controlled Fuel Injection Engine". I have a question regarding the fuses leading from the Main and the Engine Battery buses to the Diode bridge for the fuel pumps. My pumps require a 20A Circuit Protection. If I place a 20A Circuit Breaker on both of the buses as shown in the drawings, I have 20A protection if I am using only one battery path. In normal operation however, I will have the dual pathway activated and as far as I can tell this means that the fuel pump would need to pull over 40A before the circuit breakers would trip? If I address this situation by using two 10A Circuit breakers and then one of the batteries drops out, I would have a situation where the pump could trip the circuit breaker at 10A which is well before the specified limit. I expect that I am just reading the schematic wrong or my DC theory is off. Can you help me out please? Steve ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:58 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Re: New (Free) Aviation App I think you're wrong. Any app that gets access on iPhone ASKS for access. Then it shows up in the privacy settings. If you want to revoke it, after you opted in, because all privacy breaking features are opt-in only, then it shows up in the list. Sounds to me more like its the Android side that may have the issues with privacy settings and that app. Tim > On Jan 4, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Charlie England wrote: > > > In Android, the Google Play Store shows you everything that the app can access before you execute installation. Apparently the little i doesn't protect its users as well as it pretends. > > Charlie > >> On 1/4/2015 7:21 PM, Tim Olson wrote: >> >> Charlie, where are you seeing this? I installed the app and used it, and under the privacy settings on my iPhone, I went into photos, contacts, calendar, and others, and I don't see that it has access to any of that. >> Tim >> >> >> >>> On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Charlie England wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>> It is, Google Play is Android devices. >>>>> >>>>> -------- >>>>> Glenn Brasch >>>>> RV-9A Flying >>>>> 1952 Piper Tri-Pacer >>>>> Medevac Helicopter Pilot (Ret) >>>>> Tucson, Arizona >>>>> Owner, www.RVairspace.com and "Airport Courtesy Cars" Smart Phone App >>>>> www.RVairspace.com >>>> Duh... >>>> >>>> All I saw were the references to iphone, ipad, app store. Totally missed the 'Google Play' reference in the 1st line. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Charlie >>> So, next question: >>> Why does an app that simply lists which airports have courtesy cars, need access to everything in my phone? Why do you need my identity, my schedule, my contacts, my phone, my pictures, my location, my camera, and my device ID/call info? >>> >>> Or is it just that you *want* all that info? >>> >>> Not trying to look a gift horse in the mouth, but I would like to have some confidence that it isn't the Trojan version. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message avionics-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Avionics-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/avionics-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/avionics-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.