Beech-List Digest Archive

Fri 01/24/03


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 06:48 AM - Re: Beech-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/23/03 (BobsV35B@aol.com)
     2. 07:24 AM - Re: Emblems (BobsV35B@aol.com)
     3. 12:15 PM - Re: Re: Beech-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/23/03 (Steven Dortch)
     4. 12:16 PM - Re: Cowling emblem (Steven Dortch)
     5. 01:07 PM - Re: Re: Beech-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/23/03 (BobsV35B@aol.com)
     6. 07:17 PM - Re: Cowling emblem (carmine pecoraro)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:48:05 AM PST US
    From: BobsV35B@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Beech-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/23/03
    --> Beech-List message posted by: BobsV35B@aol.com In a message dated 1/24/03 1:55:47 AM Central Standard Time, beech-list-digest@matronics.com writes: > However the request is for my friends C Model. It does have a 225 in it and > he has repaired the cowling where his had dissimilar metal corrosion. It is > obvious that his had a V emblem with the 225 logo. He would like to replace > it and we will contact those who have offered emblems. Thanks. > Good Morning Steven, It is possible that it could have had one of those generic Beechcraft plates that were about ten inches long and an inch high. I doubt it, but it is possible. There may well have been something such as a 225 emblem installed in the many years since that airplane was built, but it definitely DID NOT have a 225 emblem installed at the factory. If he is trying to bring that aircraft's appearance back to the original, leave the emblems off. Incidentally, when the factory did start to apply vanity plates on the side of the cowling, there were many complaints from customers and they were occasionally left off at customer request. On top of that, all of the speed mod folks removed them as part of the general clean up of the airplane. If your friend wants to advertise on the side of his airplane, why doesn't he get an artistic sign painter to apply some appropriate art indication. Beech did variances on that theme several times over the years. Many of those look quite nice. Happy Skies, Old Bob


    Message 2


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    Time: 07:24:17 AM PST US
    From: BobsV35B@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Emblems
    --> Beech-List message posted by: BobsV35B@aol.com > However the request is for my friends C Model. It does have a 225 in it and > he has repaired the cowling where his had dissimilar metal corrosion. It is > obvious that his had a V emblem with the 225 logo. He would like to replace > it and we will contact those who have offered emblems. Thanks. > Good Morning Steven, It is possible that it could have had one of those generic Beechcraft plates that were about ten inches long and an inch high. I doubt it, but it is possible. There may well have been something such as a 225 emblem installed in the many years since that airplane was built, but it definitely DID NOT have a 225 emblem installed at the factory. If he is trying to bring that aircraft's appearance back to the original, leave the emblems off. Incidentally, when the factory did start to apply vanity plates on the side of the cowling, there were many complaints from customers and they were occasionally left off at customer request. On top of that, all of the speed mod folks removed them as part of the general clean up of the airplane. If your friend wants to advertise on the side of his airplane, why doesn't he get an artistic sign painter to apply some appropriate art indication. Beech did variances on that theme several times over the years. Many of those look quite nice. Happy Skies, Old Bob


    Message 3


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    Time: 12:15:48 PM PST US
    From: "Steven Dortch" <smallfish@enid.com>
    Subject: Re: Beech-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/23/03
    --> Beech-List message posted by: "Steven Dortch" <smallfish@enid.com> Thanks for the info, my friend knows that the C model did not have the 225 or the emblem. There is an outline of the logo that was in place with the larege V in the middle. However, he likes the logo and wants to put it on his bird. Since he has mechaniced on planes for about 50 years and this is the third Vtail he personally has restored from ground up (not including working on many Beechcraft for others.) and he is helping me with mine, I am going to help him get an emblem. He knows the pluses and minuses and simply wants to build himself a nice plane, the way he wants it. He is not going for original at all so it is not a restoration but rather a rebuild. The C model that he is currently rebuilding was very damaged in a gear up landing and taken apart for storage 25+ years ago. He rescued it from being sent to a salvage yard a couple of years ago. He currently has it all stripped and is doing a rebuild from ground up. He will paint the plane while disassembled. He has added a 3rd window, long, and a speed slope windshield (since he had one) and has rebuilt an instrument panel out of a wrecked 1999 A36. He is doing many upgrades from later models. It will be a really nice bird when he is done but far from original. Thanks for the feedback. I don't plan on putting the logo on my plane. Everything that can be done to get extra speed is for the good and I kind of like slowly going back to original, though my 48 model has a speed slope winshield, and small 3rd window.). In fact, I will be replacing a HUGE "Ram's Horn" antenna with a smaller set of antennas when I get around to it. I am interested in looking somewhat original but I don't want to step backward in performance. Besides It is all I can do to try to get my bird back in the air. Blue Skies Steve D ----- Original Message ----- From: <BobsV35B@aol.com> Subject: Beech-List: Re: Beech-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/23/03 > --> Beech-List message posted by: BobsV35B@aol.com > > In a message dated 1/24/03 1:55:47 AM Central Standard Time, > beech-list-digest@matronics.com writes: > > > However the request is for my friends C Model. It does have a 225 in it and > > he has repaired the cowling where his had dissimilar metal corrosion. It is > > obvious that his had a V emblem with the 225 logo. He would like to replace > > it and we will contact those who have offered emblems. Thanks. > > > > Good Morning Steven, > > It is possible that it could have had one of those generic Beechcraft plates > that were about ten inches long and an inch high. I doubt it, but it is > possible. > > There may well have been something such as a 225 emblem installed in the many > years since that airplane was built, but it definitely DID NOT have a 225 > emblem installed at the factory. > > If he is trying to bring that aircraft's appearance back to the original, > leave the emblems off. > > Incidentally, when the factory did start to apply vanity plates on the side > of the cowling, there were many complaints from customers and they were > occasionally left off at customer request. > > On top of that, all of the speed mod folks removed them as part of the > general clean up of the airplane. > > If your friend wants to advertise on the side of his airplane, why doesn't he > get an artistic sign painter to apply some appropriate art indication. Beech > did variances on that theme several times over the years. Many of those look > quite nice. > > Happy Skies, > > Old Bob > >


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    Time: 12:16:39 PM PST US
    From: "Steven Dortch" <smallfish@enid.com>
    Subject: Re: Cowling emblem
    --> Beech-List message posted by: "Steven Dortch" <smallfish@enid.com> How much do you want? ----- Original Message ----- From: "carmine pecoraro" <aeroauto@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Beech-List: Cowling emblem > --> Beech-List message posted by: "carmine pecoraro" <aeroauto@hotmail.com> > > I have a pair of G 225 cowling emblems. > > > cheers carmine pecoraro > > > >From: JRSProAds@aol.com > >Reply-To: beech-list@matronics.com > >To: beech-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Re: Beech-List: Cowling emblem > >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:56:17 EST > > > >--> Beech-List message posted by: JRSProAds@aol.com > > > >I've seen the V225 emblem on some later B or C models. Not sure if it was > >original equipment though. > > > >I had an F35 that had no emblem at all on the cowling. > > > >My two cents. > > > >J. Smith > >Phoenix, AZ > > > >ProAds, Inc. > >Advertising Solutions > >(623) 594-0725 > >(623) 594-0728 Fax > > > > > >


    Message 5


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    Time: 01:07:04 PM PST US
    From: BobsV35B@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Beech-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/23/03
    --> Beech-List message posted by: BobsV35B@aol.com In a message dated 1/24/03 2:17:02 PM Central Standard Time, smallfish@enid.com writes: > I kind of > like slowly going back to original, though my 48 model has a speed slope > winshield, and small 3rd window.). In fact, I will be replacing a HUGE > "Ram's Horn" antenna with a smaller set of antennas when I get around to > it. > I am interested in looking somewhat original but I don't want to step > backward in performance. Good Afternoon Steven, Sounds good to me! May I make a couple of suggestions? I would try not to put any bigger third window in than that which you have. The small third window gives about eighty percent as much visibility as does the big one. The big one requires structural changes to the fuselage which does change the stress distribution on the structure. I think it is inadvisable to mess with that tail assembly any more than is absolutely necessary. Not only that, the big window weighs more than the one you have. Why give up payload for no good reason? You mention your desire to get rid of the large Rams Head antenna. You also stated you are working slowly toward a more original look. Consider that there was no VOR available when your airplane was built. A VHF navigational antenna was NOT a standard piece of equipment. There were a few that came from the factory with VAR and ILS receivers. That did require a V style antenna at that time and many Bonanzas did sport some of the big WWII rams horn type antennas. Your's may have been one of those. Nevertheless, I would recommend that you go to the 'clean top' look. All of the speed gurus tell us that the top of the airplane is the place you can pick up the most speed. The cleaner, the better! I like the blades on the tail beneath the tail surfaces. They are unobtrusive and lower drag than any of the V antennas. If you care to see a set installed, take a look at the following website. <A HREF="http://www.beechcraft.org/vtail/BOBSANTENNA/">http://www.beechcraft.org/vtail/BOBSANTENNA/ Happy Skies, Old Bob


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    Time: 07:17:09 PM PST US
    From: "carmine pecoraro" <aeroauto@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Cowling emblem
    --> Beech-List message posted by: "carmine pecoraro" <aeroauto@hotmail.com> I hadn't thought about selling them. What are they worth? cheers carmine pecoraro >From: "Steven Dortch" <smallfish@enid.com> >Reply-To: beech-list@matronics.com >To: <beech-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Re: Beech-List: Cowling emblem >Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 01:03:23 -0600 > >--> Beech-List message posted by: "Steven Dortch" <smallfish@enid.com> > >How much do you want? > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "carmine pecoraro" <aeroauto@hotmail.com> >To: <beech-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Re: Beech-List: Cowling emblem > > > > --> Beech-List message posted by: "carmine pecoraro" ><aeroauto@hotmail.com> > > > > I have a pair of G 225 cowling emblems. > > > > > > cheers carmine pecoraro > > > > > > >From: JRSProAds@aol.com > > >Reply-To: beech-list@matronics.com > > >To: beech-list@matronics.com > > >Subject: Re: Beech-List: Cowling emblem > > >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:56:17 EST > > > > > >--> Beech-List message posted by: JRSProAds@aol.com > > > > > >I've seen the V225 emblem on some later B or C models. Not sure if it >was > > >original equipment though. > > > > > >I had an F35 that had no emblem at all on the cowling. > > > > > >My two cents. > > > > > >J. Smith > > >Phoenix, AZ > > > > > >ProAds, Inc. > > >Advertising Solutions > > >(623) 594-0725 > > >(623) 594-0728 Fax > > > > > > > > > > > >




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