---------------------------------------------------------- Beech-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 09/20/03: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:46 AM - Re: KLN 90B flight manual (BobsV35B@aol.com) 2. 07:47 AM - Re: KLN 90B flight manual (Gary Strong) 3. 06:45 PM - Re: KLN 90B flight manual (Stewart Cochran) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:46:19 AM PST US From: BobsV35B@aol.com Subject: Re: Beech-List: KLN 90B flight manual --> Beech-List message posted by: BobsV35B@aol.com In a message dated 9/20/03 12:16:29 AM Central Daylight Time, gjstrong@comcast.net writes: > > Does anyone have a flight manual for a KLN 90B installed in a V35B? When > I purchased my plane a flight manual wasn't in the documentation and I > wasn't smart enough to notice. Good Morning Gary, If you are referring to the FAA Approved Flight Manual Supplement, it is a document that is specific to your aircraft. That is one of the difficulties of the local approval process. Bendix/King/Honeywell supplies a representative manual from which the installer then writes one that is specific to the aircraft in which the unit is to be installed. It is impossible to tell what the installer may have written into your document. If you do not have the individual document, the set is not legal to be used. Such things as precisely how the set is to be used could have been changed from the procedure that King recommended. Individual FAA inspectors have asked for certain language changes that they like to see. While most installers use a form very close to what was recommended, there is no guarantee that that was what was done for yours. My suggestion would be that you contact the installer and see if they kept a copy. I retain a copy of each one that I submit. If a copy of the original is not obtainable, it will be necessary to make another one and submit it for approval. Once again, that will be easier for the original installer than it would be for anyone else. Getting a copy of the factory suggested manual is a good first step, but it must be modified to reflect those individual changes that were originally approved for your individual airplane. Happy Skies, Old Bob ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:47:39 AM PST US From: "Gary Strong" Subject: RE: Beech-List: KLN 90B flight manual --> Beech-List message posted by: "Gary Strong" Bob, Thanks for your note. The aircraft was purchased from Germany and as such the shop that installed the unit (about 6 years ago) is in Germany as well. The JAA paperwork appears in order (it looks much different than a 337 but in a number of locations the 90B is referred to). My hope was to get a copy of someone else's flight manual and then modify it to my aircraft. I do have a copy of an original factory one supplied by King that we can use if needed. Obviously the flight tests will need to be re-done and then submitted for approval by the local FSDO. The good news is the installation appears to be very well done with appropriate annunciators and wiring to the HSI, RMI, etc. Everything works very well so its "only" the paperwork that is the issue. Gary S. -----Original Message----- From: owner-beech-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-beech-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BobsV35B@aol.com Subject: Re: Beech-List: KLN 90B flight manual --> Beech-List message posted by: BobsV35B@aol.com In a message dated 9/20/03 12:16:29 AM Central Daylight Time, gjstrong@comcast.net writes: > > Does anyone have a flight manual for a KLN 90B installed in a V35B? > When I purchased my plane a flight manual wasn't in the documentation > and I wasn't smart enough to notice. Good Morning Gary, If you are referring to the FAA Approved Flight Manual Supplement, it is a document that is specific to your aircraft. That is one of the difficulties of the local approval process. Bendix/King/Honeywell supplies a representative manual from which the installer then writes one that is specific to the aircraft in which the unit is to be installed. It is impossible to tell what the installer may have written into your document. If you do not have the individual document, the set is not legal to be used. Such things as precisely how the set is to be used could have been changed from the procedure that King recommended. Individual FAA inspectors have asked for certain language changes that they like to see. While most installers use a form very close to what was recommended, there is no guarantee that that was what was done for yours. My suggestion would be that you contact the installer and see if they kept a copy. I retain a copy of each one that I submit. If a copy of the original is not obtainable, it will be necessary to make another one and submit it for approval. Once again, that will be easier for the original installer than it would be for anyone else. Getting a copy of the factory suggested manual is a good first step, but it must be modified to reflect those individual changes that were originally approved for your individual airplane. Happy Skies, Old Bob direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:22 PM PST US From: "Stewart Cochran" Subject: Re: Beech-List: KLN 90B flight manual --> Beech-List message posted by: "Stewart Cochran" Hi Gary, Go to this Ebay site where there are two manuals up for bid. Just click your mouse on the address. http://search-desc.ebay.com/search/search.dll?query=kln+90b&storecache=82408875+26070279&sosortorder=2&ht=1&sosortproperty=3&from=R10&sotextsearched=2&BasicSearchStew Cochran 1952 C-35 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Strong" Subject: Beech-List: KLN 90B flight manual > --> Beech-List message posted by: "Gary Strong" > > Does anyone have a flight manual for a KLN 90B installed in a V35B? When > I purchased my plane a flight manual wasn't in the documentation and I > wasn't smart enough to notice. All the appropriate paperwork is in the > logbooks for the installation, but to fly legal I need a flight manual. > My avionics shop will do one from scratch, but my IA said if a manual > can be found that we can modify, it would be a ton easier. > > Gary S. > 1979 V35B > >