---------------------------------------------------------- Beech-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/19/07: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:56 AM - paint blasting (llsbiii3@netzero.net) 2. 08:28 AM - Re: paint blasting (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG) 3. 12:02 PM - Re: paint blasting (MikeTruffer) 4. 12:26 PM - Re: paint blasting (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG) 5. 12:33 PM - Re: paint blasting (HOWARD BUNTE) 6. 03:30 PM - Re: paint blasting//more... (HOWARD BUNTE) 7. 04:54 PM - Re: paint blasting Don't archive (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:56:06 AM PST US From: "llsbiii3@netzero.net" Subject: Beech-List: paint blasting Hi, I have a G-35 that I have chemically stripped most of the paint. I have some residue left, primarily on the bottom of the airplane. I am think ing about using a media blasting to finish the touch up. I am thinking about using a blaster from Eastwood. Anyone have any experience or reco mmendations about doing this? The correct media, baking soda, plastic b eads or walnuts shells? Sherman Butler ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:28:15 AM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG" Subject: Re: Beech-List: paint blasting What chemical process did you use and how difficult was It? I would like to repaint my straight 35 but the cost for my budget is prohibitive. And the paint job is really not that bad. can anyone tell me how hard it is to "touch up" my paint. 7/8th of the paint is good. but the leading edges , nose and some details are getting pretty rough. Steve D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "llsbiii3@netzero.net" Subject: Beech-List: paint blasting > Hi, > I have a G-35 that I have chemically stripped most of the paint. > I have some residue left, primarily on the bottom of the airplane. > I am thinking about using a media blasting to finish the touch > up. I am thinking about using a blaster from Eastwood. Anyone > have any experience or recommendations about doing this? The > correct media, baking soda, plastic beads or walnuts shells? > > com:office:smarttags" />Sherman Butler ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:02:54 PM PST US From: "MikeTruffer" Subject: Re: Beech-List: paint blasting >>>>can anyone tell me how hard it is to "touch up" my paint. Much depends on your standards for cosmetics, Steve. If you're not too picky, doing the job so the final result looks *acceptable* isn't too hard. But doing it so it looks right it takes equipment, skill and knowledge that few of us have. IMHO, it takes hands-on experience (practice) to acquire the requisite skill and knowledge. Because I don't want to practice on the exterior of my Bo, I'd leave such re-painting to a professional or a skilled amateur. I'm not trying to discourage you from doing it yourself. Many of us really like working on our aircraft. Instead, I'm urging you to first try repainting something similar -- a boat or a Cessna or something else unimportant. In my case, I repainted the insides of the cowls and inspection panels of my B55. I'm glad I did it; although it wasn't a trivial task, it was fun. But I'm also glad that no one but myself and the occasional mechanic will routinely see the results of my efforts. As I said, doing the job correctly takes experience, etc. If Bob Newman of List offers any suggestions or tips on the subject, listen to him. He has been a tremendous help to me, and his advice proved to be, as they say, spot on. --Mike Truffer P.S. You might start by visiting the website of the mfgr of whatever paint is on your Bonanza. You'll probably find information on maintaining, repairing and repainting a well-cured topcoat. It will give you an idea of the scope of the contemplated job. Awgrip's site is excellent. www.3m.com/aerospace/ may be informative, too. P.P.S. Alan Witkin of the List repainted the leading edges of his Bo. You might track down his email address and contact him. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG To: beech-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Beech-List: paint blasting What chemical process did you use and how difficult was It? I would like to repaint my straight 35 but the cost for my budget is prohibitive. And the paint job is really not that bad. can anyone tell me how hard it is to "touch up" my paint. 7/8th of the paint is good. but the leading edges , nose and some details are getting pretty rough. Steve D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "llsbiii3@netzero.net" Date: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:02 Subject: Beech-List: paint blasting To: beech-list@matronics.com > Hi, > I have a G-35 that I have chemically stripped most of the paint. > I have some residue left, primarily on the bottom of the airplane. > I am thinking about using a media blasting to finish the touch > up. I am thinking about using a blaster from Eastwood. Anyone > have any experience or recommendations about doing this? The > correct media, baking soda, plastic beads or walnuts shells? > > com:office:smarttags" />Sherman Butler ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:26:30 PM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG" Subject: Re: Beech-List: paint blasting Mike, Thanks for the hints. It is not so bad that my wife wants it repainted. I did repaint the interior widow posts, door and so on. all the exposed parts. Picked a pretty neutral (and forgiving) grey and used an airbrush. Looks great if I say so myself. We have an old 1989 Chevy Suburban that may get painted first. I may get a chance to experiment on it. This plane was originally polished aluminium with red trim. But as much as I put off washing the plane I can only imagine putting off polishing. Blue Skies, Steve D ----- Original Message ----- From: MikeTruffer Subject: Re: Beech-List: paint blasting > >>>>can anyone tell me how hard it is to "touch up" my paint. > > Much depends on your standards for cosmetics, Steve. > > If you're not too picky, doing the job so the final result looks > *acceptable* isn't too hard. > > But doing it so it looks right it takes equipment, skill and > knowledge that few of us have. > > IMHO, it takes hands-on experience (practice) to acquire the > requisite skill and knowledge. Because I don't want to practice on > the exterior of my Bo, I'd leave such re-painting to a > professional or a skilled amateur. > > I'm not trying to discourage you from doing it yourself. Many of > us really like working on our aircraft. Instead, I'm urging you to > first try repainting something similar -- a boat or a Cessna or > something else unimportant. > > In my case, I repainted the insides of the cowls and inspection > panels of my B55. I'm glad I did it; although it wasn't a trivial > task, it was fun. > > But I'm also glad that no one but myself and the occasional > mechanic will routinely see the results of my efforts. As I said, > doing the job correctly takes experience, etc. > > If Bob Newman of List offers any suggestions or tips on the > subject, listen to him. He has been a tremendous help to me, and > his advice proved to be, as they say, spot on. > > --Mike Truffer > > P.S. You might start by visiting the website of the mfgr of > whatever paint is on your Bonanza. You'll probably find > information on maintaining, repairing and repainting a well-cured > topcoat. It will give you an idea of the scope of the contemplated > job. Awgrip's site is excellent. > > www.3m.com/aerospace/ may be informative, too. > > P.P.S. Alan Witkin of the List repainted the leading edges of his > Bo. You might track down his email address and contact him. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG > To: beech-list@matronics.com > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:27 AM > Subject: Re: Beech-List: paint blasting > > > > What chemical process did you use and how difficult was It? I > would like to repaint my straight 35 but the cost for my budget is > prohibitive. And the paint job is really not that bad. > > can anyone tell me how hard it is to "touch up" my paint. 7/8th > of the paint is good. but the leading edges , nose and some > details are getting pretty rough. > > Steve D. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "llsbiii3@netzero.net" > Date: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:02 > Subject: Beech-List: paint blasting > To: beech-list@matronics.com > > > Hi, > > I have a G-35 that I have chemically stripped most of the > paint. > > I have some residue left, primarily on the bottom of the > airplane. > > I am thinking about using a media blasting to finish the touch > > up. I am thinking about using a blaster from Eastwood. > Anyone > > have any experience or recommendations about doing this? The > > correct media, baking soda, plastic beads or walnuts shells? > > > > > com:office:smarttags" />Sherman Butler o > > ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:33:50 PM PST US From: "HOWARD BUNTE" Subject: Re: Beech-List: paint blasting Hello, I would advise checking with a good paint shop, for a 'touching-up' job... yes, would be in the several hundreds of dollars, perhaps, but far better than the Several Thousands for a good paint job... Howard Bunte 1952 C35 ... N 1912D out here in soCAL (KCCB) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG" Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:27 AM Subject: Re: Beech-List: paint blasting > > > What chemical process did you use and how difficult was It? I would like > to repaint my straight 35 but the cost for my budget is prohibitive. And > the paint job is really not that bad. > > can anyone tell me how hard it is to "touch up" my paint. 7/8th of the > paint is good. but the leading edges , nose and some details are getting > pretty rough. > > Steve D. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "llsbiii3@netzero.net" > Date: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:02 > Subject: Beech-List: paint blasting > To: beech-list@matronics.com > >> Hi, >> I have a G-35 that I have chemically stripped most of the paint. >> I have some residue left, primarily on the bottom of the airplane. >> I am thinking about using a media blasting to finish the touch >> up. I am thinking about using a blaster from Eastwood. Anyone >> have any experience or recommendations about doing this? The >> correct media, baking soda, plastic beads or walnuts shells? >> >> > com:office:smarttags" />Sherman Butler> ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:30:21 PM PST US From: "HOWARD BUNTE" Subject: Re: Beech-List: paint blasting//more... Hey, Steven... get a buffer, lots of disposable 'heads' for it, and a good sheepskin buffer... My C35 looks so good (even with its thinning paint downhill from the air scoop for the airconditioner... )... when waxed with the buffer slathering the liquid stuff on... then when it dries in a few minutes,... with the plane pulled out into the taxiway, my buffer and I...go a buffing... and boy does it shine!!!... save the shoulders and the arms.. they don't make THEM anymore... Howard Bunte ps. that aluminum and redline for accent... I've seen the original in pictures and illustrations... knockout!!! ................... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG" Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 12:25 PM Subject: Re: Beech-List: paint blasting > > > Mike, Thanks for the hints. It is not so bad that my wife wants it > repainted. I did repaint the interior widow posts, door and so on. all the > exposed parts. Picked a pretty neutral (and forgiving) grey and used an > airbrush. Looks great if I say so myself. > > We have an old 1989 Chevy Suburban that may get painted first. I may get a > chance to experiment on it. > > This plane was originally polished aluminium with red trim. But as much as > I put off washing the plane I can only imagine putting off polishing. > > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: MikeTruffer > Date: Monday, November 19, 2007 14:08 > Subject: Re: Beech-List: paint blasting > To: beech-list@matronics.com > >> >>>>can anyone tell me how hard it is to "touch up" my paint. >> >> Much depends on your standards for cosmetics, Steve. >> >> If you're not too picky, doing the job so the final result looks >> *acceptable* isn't too hard. >> >> But doing it so it looks right it takes equipment, skill and >> knowledge that few of us have. >> >> IMHO, it takes hands-on experience (practice) to acquire the >> requisite skill and knowledge. Because I don't want to practice on >> the exterior of my Bo, I'd leave such re-painting to a >> professional or a skilled amateur. >> >> I'm not trying to discourage you from doing it yourself. Many of >> us really like working on our aircraft. Instead, I'm urging you to >> first try repainting something similar -- a boat or a Cessna or >> something else unimportant. >> >> In my case, I repainted the insides of the cowls and inspection >> panels of my B55. I'm glad I did it; although it wasn't a trivial >> task, it was fun. >> >> But I'm also glad that no one but myself and the occasional >> mechanic will routinely see the results of my efforts. As I said, >> doing the job correctly takes experience, etc. >> >> If Bob Newman of List offers any suggestions or tips on the >> subject, listen to him. He has been a tremendous help to me, and >> his advice proved to be, as they say, spot on. >> >> --Mike Truffer >> >> P.S. You might start by visiting the website of the mfgr of >> whatever paint is on your Bonanza. You'll probably find >> information on maintaining, repairing and repainting a well-cured >> topcoat. It will give you an idea of the scope of the contemplated >> job. Awgrip's site is excellent. >> >> www.3m.com/aerospace/ may be informative, too. >> >> P.P.S. Alan Witkin of the List repainted the leading edges of his >> Bo. You might track down his email address and contact him. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG >> To: beech-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:27 AM >> Subject: Re: Beech-List: paint blasting >> >> >> >> What chemical process did you use and how difficult was It? I >> would like to repaint my straight 35 but the cost for my budget is >> prohibitive. And the paint job is really not that bad. >> >> can anyone tell me how hard it is to "touch up" my paint. 7/8th >> of the paint is good. but the leading edges , nose and some >> details are getting pretty rough. >> >> Steve D. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "llsbiii3@netzero.net" >> Date: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:02 >> Subject: Beech-List: paint blasting >> To: beech-list@matronics.com >> >> > Hi, >> > I have a G-35 that I have chemically stripped most of the >> paint. >> > I have some residue left, primarily on the bottom of the >> airplane. >> > I am thinking about using a media blasting to finish the touch >> > up. I am thinking about using a blaster from Eastwood. >> Anyone >> > have any experience or recommendations about doing this? The >> > correct media, baking soda, plastic beads or walnuts shells? >> > >> > > > com:office:smarttags" />Sherman Butler> o >> > ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:10 PM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG" Subject: Re: Beech-List: paint blasting Don't archive Don't archive When I opened this had to point out "a boat or a Cessna or > something else unimportant." To the new guy at the next desk. He was showing off his big boat and we were discussing the cost of planes and boats. He seems to have different choices on what is "unimportant." Steve D. ----- Original Message ----- From: MikeTruffer Subject: Re: Beech-List: paint blasting > >>>>can anyone tell me how hard it is to "touch up" my paint. > > Much depends on your standards for cosmetics, Steve. > > If you're not too picky, doing the job so the final result looks > *acceptable* isn't too hard. > > But doing it so it looks right it takes equipment, skill and > knowledge that few of us have. > > IMHO, it takes hands-on experience (practice) to acquire the > requisite skill and knowledge. Because I don't want to practice on > the exterior of my Bo, I'd leave such re-painting to a > professional or a skilled amateur. > > I'm not trying to discourage you from doing it yourself. Many of > us really like working on our aircraft. Instead, I'm urging you to > first try repainting something similar -- a boat or a Cessna or > something else unimportant. > > In my case, I repainted the insides of the cowls and inspection > panels of my B55. I'm glad I did it; although it wasn't a trivial > task, it was fun. > > But I'm also glad that no one but myself and the occasional > mechanic will routinely see the results of my efforts. As I said, > doing the job correctly takes experience, etc. > > If Bob Newman of List offers any suggestions or tips on the > subject, listen to him. He has been a tremendous help to me, and > his advice proved to be, as they say, spot on. > > --Mike Truffer > > P.S. You might start by visiting the website of the mfgr of > whatever paint is on your Bonanza. You'll probably find > information on maintaining, repairing and repainting a well-cured > topcoat. It will give you an idea of the scope of the contemplated > job. Awgrip's site is excellent. > > www.3m.com/aerospace/ may be informative, too. > > P.P.S. Alan Witkin of the List repainted the leading edges of his > Bo. You might track down his email address and contact him. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG > To: beech-list@matronics.com > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:27 AM > Subject: Re: Beech-List: paint blasting > > > > What chemical process did you use and how difficult was It? I > would like to repaint my straight 35 but the cost for my budget is > prohibitive. And the paint job is really not that bad. > > can anyone tell me how hard it is to "touch up" my paint. 7/8th > of the paint is good. but the leading edges , nose and some > details are getting pretty rough. > > Steve D. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "llsbiii3@netzero.net" > Date: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:02 > Subject: Beech-List: paint blasting > To: beech-list@matronics.com > > > Hi, > > I have a G-35 that I have chemically stripped most of the > paint. > > I have some residue left, primarily on the bottom of the > airplane. > > I am thinking about using a media blasting to finish the touch > > up. I am thinking about using a blaster from Eastwood. > Anyone > > have any experience or recommendations about doing this? The > > correct media, baking soda, plastic beads or walnuts shells? > > > > > com:office:smarttags" />Sherman Butler o > > ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message beech-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Beech-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/beech-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/beech-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.