---------------------------------------------------------- Beech-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 11/20/07: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:09 AM - [Please Read] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... (Matt Dralle) 1. 05:16 AM - Re: paint blasting Don't archive (MikeTruffer) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:09:53 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Beech-List: [Please Read] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... Dear Listers, Each year I like to explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity to express why I think the List Services here provide a superior experience over the commercial equivalents. I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running a high performance email list site such as this one. 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List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:33 AM PST US From: "MikeTruffer" Subject: Re: Beech-List: paint blasting Don't archive >>> He seems to have different choices on what is "unimportant." It's funny how that works! -- Mike Truffer P.S. My original post was somewhat tongue in cheek at that point. But actually, painting an aluminum rowboat or such would be a good project to practice surface prep and topcoating. A few sags or dead bugs in an old boat's finish wouldn't be the end of the world, but on your old Bo... ----- Original Message ----- From: Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG To: beech-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 7:53 PM Subject: Re: Beech-List: paint blasting Don't archive Don't archive When I opened this had to point out "a boat or a Cessna or > something else unimportant." To the new guy at the next desk. He was showing off his big boat and we were discussing the cost of planes and boats. He seems to have different choices on what is "unimportant." Steve D. ----- Original Message ----- From: MikeTruffer Date: Monday, November 19, 2007 14:08 Subject: Re: Beech-List: paint blasting To: beech-list@matronics.com > >>>>can anyone tell me how hard it is to "touch up" my paint. > > Much depends on your standards for cosmetics, Steve. > > If you're not too picky, doing the job so the final result looks > *acceptable* isn't too hard. > > But doing it so it looks right it takes equipment, skill and > knowledge that few of us have. > > IMHO, it takes hands-on experience (practice) to acquire the > requisite skill and knowledge. Because I don't want to practice on > the exterior of my Bo, I'd leave such re-painting to a > professional or a skilled amateur. > > I'm not trying to discourage you from doing it yourself. Many of > us really like working on our aircraft. Instead, I'm urging you to > first try repainting something similar -- a boat or a Cessna or > something else unimportant. > > In my case, I repainted the insides of the cowls and inspection > panels of my B55. I'm glad I did it; although it wasn't a trivial > task, it was fun. > > But I'm also glad that no one but myself and the occasional > mechanic will routinely see the results of my efforts. As I said, > doing the job correctly takes experience, etc. > > If Bob Newman of List offers any suggestions or tips on the > subject, listen to him. He has been a tremendous help to me, and > his advice proved to be, as they say, spot on. > > --Mike Truffer > > P.S. You might start by visiting the website of the mfgr of > whatever paint is on your Bonanza. You'll probably find > information on maintaining, repairing and repainting a well-cured > topcoat. It will give you an idea of the scope of the contemplated > job. Awgrip's site is excellent. > > www.3m.com/aerospace/ may be informative, too. > > P.P.S. Alan Witkin of the List repainted the leading edges of his > Bo. You might track down his email address and contact him. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG > To: beech-list@matronics.com > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:27 AM > Subject: Re: Beech-List: paint blasting > > > > What chemical process did you use and how difficult was It? I > would like to repaint my straight 35 but the cost for my budget is > prohibitive. And the paint job is really not that bad. > > can anyone tell me how hard it is to "touch up" my paint. 7/8th > of the paint is good. but the leading edges , nose and some > details are getting pretty rough. > > Steve D. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "llsbiii3@netzero.net" > Date: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:02 > Subject: Beech-List: paint blasting > To: beech-list@matronics.com > > > Hi, > > I have a G-35 that I have chemically stripped most of the > paint. > > I have some residue left, primarily on the bottom of the > airplane. > > I am thinking about using a media blasting to finish the touch > > up. I am thinking about using a blaster from Eastwood. > Anyone > > have any experience or recommendations about doing this? The > > correct media, baking soda, plastic beads or walnuts shells? > > > > > com:office:smarttags" />Sherman Butler o > > ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message beech-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Beech-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/beech-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/beech-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.