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2. 06:23 AM - Re: TRF's (Ken)
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--> Cessna-List message posted by: Stephen Crow <k4cpx@arrl.net>
I would think that a President who is a pilot would understand what tremendous
inconveniences he causes by allowing these ridiculous flight restrictions. Just
look at the list of airports, large and small that are effected. He reminds
me of the time Clinton allowed an entire airport to be shutdown while he had a
leisurely haircut in a parked A/F One.
This present President knows better and choses to ignore the difficulties he causes.
Yeah, I know "He doesn't set these rules".
BS He could stop this idiosy with three short words "Cut the Crap!".
The aviation world should be screaming to him personally. I don't think he's totally
deaf.
Steve C.
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Subject: Commander-List: Fw: President Bush / Miami / Tampa
--> Commander-List message posted by: Stephen Crow <k4cpx@arrl.net>
More damn restrictions!
Steve C.
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----- Original Message -----
From: JERRYROOKS@aol.com
Subject: President Bush / Miami / Tampa
AOPA ePilot Special Airspace Bulletin June 27, 2003
A special notice to AOPA members in the Florida area
==> ATTENTION PILOTS <==
FAA TO ACTIVATE 30-NM TFRs OVER MIAMI AND TAMPA
AOPA is sending this message to advise you that the FAA will establish
30-nm-radius temporary flight restrictions (TFRs) over Miami and
Tampa when President Bush travels to the cities on Monday, June 30.
AOPA continues to lobby for more reasonably sized presidential
movement TFRs, absent a specific and credible threat. The association
maintains almost daily contact with the FAA, the Transportation
Security Administration (TSA), and officials responsible for the
president's security.
The Miami TFR will be in effect from 11:20 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. local
on Monday and prohibits aircraft within a 10-mile radius of the DHP
vortac's 99-degree radial at 7.9 miles (near the Orange Bowl). The
Tampa TFR will be in effect from 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. local on Monday and
prohibits general aviation aircraft within a 10-mile radius of the PIE
vortac's 62-degree radial at 9 miles (essentially over Tampa
International Airport).
Between 10 and 30 nm from the center of both TFRs and below 18,000
feet, flight operations are only permitted for ingress or egress.
Aircraft must be on an active IFR or VFR flight plan with a discrete
transponder code assigned by air traffic control, and maintain
two-way radio communications. The notam says that air traffic
control may authorize transient operations.
The impacted landing facilities for Miami are Miami Heliport (X48),
Miami SPB (X44), Miami International (MIA), Opa Locka (OPF), North
Perry (HWO), Kendall-Tamiami Executive (TMB), Opa Locka West (X46),
Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood International (FLL), Downtown Fort
Lauderdale Heliport (DT1), Motorsports Complex EMS Heliport (MC4),
Motorsports Complex VIP Heliport (VI2), Fort Lauderdale Executive
(FXE), Homestead General Aviation (X51), and Pompano Beach Airpark
(PMP).
The impacted landing facilities for Tampa are Tampa International
(TPA), Peter O. Knight (TPF), St. Petersburg-Clearwater International
(PIE), Vandenberg (VDF), Clearwater Air Park (CLW), Albert Whitted
(SPG), Tampa North Aero Park (X39), Plant City Municipal (PCM),
Airport Manatee (48X), Pilot Country (X05), Zephyrhills Municipal
(ZPH), Lakeland Linder Regional (LAL), South Lakeland (X49), and
Hernando County (BKV).
Pilots are strongly encouraged to check notams prior to all flights
as changes have occurred with many of these presidential TFRs. See
AOPA Online for the full text of the Miami notam
( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html#3/5150 ) or Tampa notam
( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html#3/5149 ).
Message 2
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--> Cessna-List message posted by: "Ken" <av8or@infionline.net>
Don't forget the shrub was a military drive. Did he ever fly a Cessna as a
civilian.
Ken
av8or@infionline.net
kring@mountainviewdogs.com
kring@irisweb.net
www.irisweb.net
www.mountainviewdogs.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-cessna-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-cessna-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Crow
Subject: Cessna-List: TRF's
--> Cessna-List message posted by: Stephen Crow <k4cpx@arrl.net>
I would think that a President who is a pilot would understand what
tremendous inconveniences he causes by allowing these ridiculous flight
restrictions. Just look at the list of airports, large and small that are
effected. He reminds me of the time Clinton allowed an entire airport to be
shutdown while he had a leisurely haircut in a parked A/F One.
This present President knows better and choses to ignore the difficulties he
causes. Yeah, I know "He doesn't set these rules".
BS He could stop this idiosy with three short words "Cut the Crap!".
The aviation world should be screaming to him personally. I don't think he's
totally deaf.
Steve C.
====================================================================
Subject: Commander-List: Fw: President Bush / Miami / Tampa
--> Commander-List message posted by: Stephen Crow <k4cpx@arrl.net>
More damn restrictions!
Steve C.
====================================
----- Original Message -----
From: JERRYROOKS@aol.com
Subject: President Bush / Miami / Tampa
AOPA ePilot Special Airspace Bulletin June 27, 2003
A special notice to AOPA members in the Florida area
==> ATTENTION PILOTS <==
FAA TO ACTIVATE 30-NM TFRs OVER MIAMI AND TAMPA
AOPA is sending this message to advise you that the FAA will establish
30-nm-radius temporary flight restrictions (TFRs) over Miami and
Tampa when President Bush travels to the cities on Monday, June 30.
AOPA continues to lobby for more reasonably sized presidential
movement TFRs, absent a specific and credible threat. The association
maintains almost daily contact with the FAA, the Transportation
Security Administration (TSA), and officials responsible for the
president's security.
The Miami TFR will be in effect from 11:20 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. local
on Monday and prohibits aircraft within a 10-mile radius of the DHP
vortac's 99-degree radial at 7.9 miles (near the Orange Bowl). The
Tampa TFR will be in effect from 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. local on Monday and
prohibits general aviation aircraft within a 10-mile radius of the PIE
vortac's 62-degree radial at 9 miles (essentially over Tampa
International Airport).
Between 10 and 30 nm from the center of both TFRs and below 18,000
feet, flight operations are only permitted for ingress or egress.
Aircraft must be on an active IFR or VFR flight plan with a discrete
transponder code assigned by air traffic control, and maintain
two-way radio communications. The notam says that air traffic
control may authorize transient operations.
The impacted landing facilities for Miami are Miami Heliport (X48),
Miami SPB (X44), Miami International (MIA), Opa Locka (OPF), North
Perry (HWO), Kendall-Tamiami Executive (TMB), Opa Locka West (X46),
Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood International (FLL), Downtown Fort
Lauderdale Heliport (DT1), Motorsports Complex EMS Heliport (MC4),
Motorsports Complex VIP Heliport (VI2), Fort Lauderdale Executive
(FXE), Homestead General Aviation (X51), and Pompano Beach Airpark
(PMP).
The impacted landing facilities for Tampa are Tampa International
(TPA), Peter O. Knight (TPF), St. Petersburg-Clearwater International
(PIE), Vandenberg (VDF), Clearwater Air Park (CLW), Albert Whitted
(SPG), Tampa North Aero Park (X39), Plant City Municipal (PCM),
Airport Manatee (48X), Pilot Country (X05), Zephyrhills Municipal
(ZPH), Lakeland Linder Regional (LAL), South Lakeland (X49), and
Hernando County (BKV).
Pilots are strongly encouraged to check notams prior to all flights
as changes have occurred with many of these presidential TFRs. See
AOPA Online for the full text of the Miami notam
( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html#3/5150 ) or Tampa notam
( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html#3/5149 ).
Message 3
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--> Cessna-List message posted by: Stephen Crow <k4cpx@arrl.net>
This message from JERRYROOKS@aol.com .........
In a message dated 6/28/2003 8:24:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
To; Steve C.
I'm wondering when they'll start shutting down the air space around where
Air Force One is en route ?? We sure seem to be terrorized !!
Let's figure some way to tell him how this really seems to everybody else.
Thanks for keeping folks informed.
Jerry
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