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--> Cessna-List message posted by: Stephen Crow <k4cpx@arrl.net>
More stories of what a "minor" inconvenience from an insensative goat can mean
to a flight operation.
Steve C.
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Subject: Re: Fw: Commander-List: Fw: President Bush / Miami / Tampa
--> Commander-List message posted by: Bill Hamilton <fighterf@ozemail.com.au>
All,
I had a 4 hour delay the day the day Clinton had his hair cut on the end of
25R at KLAX, they should have cut his throat, I already had a 15 hour
flight time sector ahead of me, we just made it with minutes to spare in
our heavy crew duty limit of 20hrs, I was on the way to Melbourne YMML,
direct from KLAX.
What was so infuriating about the episode is that there are two perfectly
good, VIP spots ( and more secure than the eastern fence at KLAX, right by a main
road) on the western remote ramp, where AirForce 1 and similar
always go.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton.
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At 09:27 PM 27/06/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Commander-List message posted by: Stephen Crow <k4cpx@arrl.net>
>
>I would think that a President who is a pilot would understand what
>tremendous inconveniences he causes by allowing these ridiculous flight
>restrictions. Just look at the list of airports, large and small that are
>effected. He reminds me of the time Clinton allowed an entire airport to
>be shutdown while he had a leisurely haircut in a parked A/F One.
>This present President knows better and choses to ignore the difficulties
>he causes. Yeah, I know "He doesn't set these rules".
>BS He could stop this idiosy with three short words "Cut the Crap!".
>The aviation world should be screaming to him personally. I don't think
>he's totally deaf.
>Steve C.
>
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>Subject: Commander-List: Fw: President Bush / Miami / Tampa
>
>
>--> Commander-List message posted by: Stephen Crow <k4cpx@arrl.net>
>
>More damn restrictions!
>Steve C.
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>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: JERRYROOKS@aol.com
>
>Subject: President Bush / Miami / Tampa
>
>
>AOPA ePilot Special Airspace Bulletin June 27, 2003
>
>A special notice to AOPA members in the Florida area
>
>
>==> ATTENTION PILOTS <==
>
>FAA TO ACTIVATE 30-NM TFRs OVER MIAMI AND TAMPA
>AOPA is sending this message to advise you that the FAA will establish
>30-nm-radius temporary flight restrictions (TFRs) over Miami and
>Tampa when President Bush travels to the cities on Monday, June 30.
>
>AOPA continues to lobby for more reasonably sized presidential
>movement TFRs, absent a specific and credible threat. The association
>maintains almost daily contact with the FAA, the Transportation
>Security Administration (TSA), and officials responsible for the
>president's security.
>
>The Miami TFR will be in effect from 11:20 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. local
>on Monday and prohibits aircraft within a 10-mile radius of the DHP
>vortac's 99-degree radial at 7.9 miles (near the Orange Bowl). The
>Tampa TFR will be in effect from 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. local on Monday and
>prohibits general aviation aircraft within a 10-mile radius of the PIE
>vortac's 62-degree radial at 9 miles (essentially over Tampa
>International Airport).
>
>Between 10 and 30 nm from the center of both TFRs and below 18,000
>feet, flight operations are only permitted for ingress or egress.
>Aircraft must be on an active IFR or VFR flight plan with a discrete
>transponder code assigned by air traffic control, and maintain
>two-way radio communications. The notam says that air traffic
>control may authorize transient operations.
>
>The impacted landing facilities for Miami are Miami Heliport (X48),
>Miami SPB (X44), Miami International (MIA), Opa Locka (OPF), North
>Perry (HWO), Kendall-Tamiami Executive (TMB), Opa Locka West (X46),
>Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood International (FLL), Downtown Fort
>Lauderdale Heliport (DT1), Motorsports Complex EMS Heliport (MC4),
>Motorsports Complex VIP Heliport (VI2), Fort Lauderdale Executive
>(FXE), Homestead General Aviation (X51), and Pompano Beach Airpark
>(PMP).
>
>The impacted landing facilities for Tampa are Tampa International
>(TPA), Peter O. Knight (TPF), St. Petersburg-Clearwater International
>(PIE), Vandenberg (VDF), Clearwater Air Park (CLW), Albert Whitted
>(SPG), Tampa North Aero Park (X39), Plant City Municipal (PCM),
>Airport Manatee (48X), Pilot Country (X05), Zephyrhills Municipal
>(ZPH), Lakeland Linder Regional (LAL), South Lakeland (X49), and
>Hernando County (BKV).
>
>Pilots are strongly encouraged to check notams prior to all flights
>as changes have occurred with many of these presidential TFRs. See
>AOPA Online for the full text of the Miami notam
>( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html#3/5150 ) or Tampa notam
>( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html#3/5149 ).
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