---------------------------------------------------------- Cessna-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 06/29/03: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:29 AM - Fw: TFR's (Stephen Crow) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:44 AM PST US From: Stephen Crow Subject: Cessna-List: Fw: TFR's --> Cessna-List message posted by: Stephen Crow More stories of what a "minor" inconvenience from an insensative goat can mean to a flight operation. Steve C. ============================================================ Subject: Re: Fw: Commander-List: Fw: President Bush / Miami / Tampa --> Commander-List message posted by: Bill Hamilton All, I had a 4 hour delay the day the day Clinton had his hair cut on the end of 25R at KLAX, they should have cut his throat, I already had a 15 hour flight time sector ahead of me, we just made it with minutes to spare in our heavy crew duty limit of 20hrs, I was on the way to Melbourne YMML, direct from KLAX. What was so infuriating about the episode is that there are two perfectly good, VIP spots ( and more secure than the eastern fence at KLAX, right by a main road) on the western remote ramp, where AirForce 1 and similar always go. Cheers, Bill Hamilton. ============================================================= At 09:27 PM 27/06/03 -0400, you wrote: >--> Commander-List message posted by: Stephen Crow > >I would think that a President who is a pilot would understand what >tremendous inconveniences he causes by allowing these ridiculous flight >restrictions. Just look at the list of airports, large and small that are >effected. He reminds me of the time Clinton allowed an entire airport to >be shutdown while he had a leisurely haircut in a parked A/F One. >This present President knows better and choses to ignore the difficulties >he causes. Yeah, I know "He doesn't set these rules". >BS He could stop this idiosy with three short words "Cut the Crap!". >The aviation world should be screaming to him personally. I don't think >he's totally deaf. >Steve C. > >==================================================================== >Subject: Commander-List: Fw: President Bush / Miami / Tampa > > >--> Commander-List message posted by: Stephen Crow > >More damn restrictions! >Steve C. >==================================== > >----- Original Message ----- >From: JERRYROOKS@aol.com > >Subject: President Bush / Miami / Tampa > > >AOPA ePilot Special Airspace Bulletin June 27, 2003 > >A special notice to AOPA members in the Florida area > > >==> ATTENTION PILOTS <== > >FAA TO ACTIVATE 30-NM TFRs OVER MIAMI AND TAMPA >AOPA is sending this message to advise you that the FAA will establish >30-nm-radius temporary flight restrictions (TFRs) over Miami and >Tampa when President Bush travels to the cities on Monday, June 30. > >AOPA continues to lobby for more reasonably sized presidential >movement TFRs, absent a specific and credible threat. The association >maintains almost daily contact with the FAA, the Transportation >Security Administration (TSA), and officials responsible for the >president's security. > >The Miami TFR will be in effect from 11:20 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. local >on Monday and prohibits aircraft within a 10-mile radius of the DHP >vortac's 99-degree radial at 7.9 miles (near the Orange Bowl). The >Tampa TFR will be in effect from 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. local on Monday and >prohibits general aviation aircraft within a 10-mile radius of the PIE >vortac's 62-degree radial at 9 miles (essentially over Tampa >International Airport). > >Between 10 and 30 nm from the center of both TFRs and below 18,000 >feet, flight operations are only permitted for ingress or egress. >Aircraft must be on an active IFR or VFR flight plan with a discrete >transponder code assigned by air traffic control, and maintain >two-way radio communications. The notam says that air traffic >control may authorize transient operations. > >The impacted landing facilities for Miami are Miami Heliport (X48), >Miami SPB (X44), Miami International (MIA), Opa Locka (OPF), North >Perry (HWO), Kendall-Tamiami Executive (TMB), Opa Locka West (X46), >Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood International (FLL), Downtown Fort >Lauderdale Heliport (DT1), Motorsports Complex EMS Heliport (MC4), >Motorsports Complex VIP Heliport (VI2), Fort Lauderdale Executive >(FXE), Homestead General Aviation (X51), and Pompano Beach Airpark >(PMP). > >The impacted landing facilities for Tampa are Tampa International >(TPA), Peter O. Knight (TPF), St. Petersburg-Clearwater International >(PIE), Vandenberg (VDF), Clearwater Air Park (CLW), Albert Whitted >(SPG), Tampa North Aero Park (X39), Plant City Municipal (PCM), >Airport Manatee (48X), Pilot Country (X05), Zephyrhills Municipal >(ZPH), Lakeland Linder Regional (LAL), South Lakeland (X49), and >Hernando County (BKV). > >Pilots are strongly encouraged to check notams prior to all flights >as changes have occurred with many of these presidential TFRs. See >AOPA Online for the full text of the Miami notam >( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html#3/5150 ) or Tampa notam >( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html#3/5149 ).