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1. 11:15 AM - Re: Form 8110-3 (D Wysong)
2. 11:50 AM - Re: Re: Form 8110-3 (bruce breckenridge)
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Hi Bruce,
You are only bound by 23.853(a), (b), (c), and (e), so the fancy logbook
sticker (assuming it specifically states that the materials used in your
refurb satisfy the pertinent FARs) should suffice. However, you might need
to educate your IA a bit.
First, I'd contact the refurb shop and find out where they buy their
materials. Since they provided a "complies with FARs" sticker in your
logbook everything *should* be coming from a reputable source (e.g. -
AirTex) where burn rate testing on the materials is fully documented.
Obtain proof and provide it to the IA.
However, the IAs I work with aren't ignorant folks so he/she might know more
about the situation (i.e. - the refurb shop) than you do. You might find
out that the refurb shop buys their materials from some unknown shop
("Flammable Fabrics-R-Us") in which case things can get a little sticky.
Again, check with the manufacturer to see if the materials used have been
tested per Part 23 (or 25). If so and they pass, you're set. Get the
documented proof and provide it to the IA. If the materials have NOT been
tested and no proof of FAR compliance exists, then I'd strongly suggest
(with threat of legal action, if necessary) to the refurb shop that they pay
to send coupons out to one of the FAA certified labs (e.g. - Skandia) for
testing. If the coupons pass, all is well. If the coupons fails, hire a
lawyer.
Best of luck,
D
References:
*http://tinyurl.com/3dp9av*
http://www.avweb.com/newspics/obrien.pdf
http://forums.cessnaowner.org/read/1/607
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Thanks so much for the clarification and especially the links. We got the
sticker and the burn sheets, so it looks like we're set!
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:11 AM, D Wysong <hdwysong@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Bruce,
>
> You are only bound by 23.853(a), (b), (c), and (e), so the fancy logbook
> sticker (assuming it specifically states that the materials used in your
> refurb satisfy the pertinent FARs) should suffice. However, you might need
> to educate your IA a bit.
>
> First, I'd contact the refurb shop and find out where they buy their
> materials. Since they provided a "complies with FARs" sticker in your
> logbook everything *should* be coming from a reputable source (e.g. -
> AirTex) where burn rate testing on the materials is fully documented.
> Obtain proof and provide it to the IA.
>
> However, the IAs I work with aren't ignorant folks so he/she might know
> more about the situation (i.e. - the refurb shop) than you do. You might
> find out that the refurb shop buys their materials from some unknown shop
> ("Flammable Fabrics-R-Us") in which case things can get a little sticky.
> Again, check with the manufacturer to see if the materials used have been
> tested per Part 23 (or 25). If so and they pass, you're set. Get the
> documented proof and provide it to the IA. If the materials have NOT been
> tested and no proof of FAR compliance exists, then I'd strongly suggest
> (with threat of legal action, if necessary) to the refurb shop that they pay
> to send coupons out to one of the FAA certified labs (e.g. - Skandia) for
> testing. If the coupons pass, all is well. If the coupons fails, hire a
> lawyer.
>
> Best of luck,
>
> D
>
> References:
> *http://tinyurl.com/3dp9av*
> http://www.avweb.com/newspics/obrien.pdf
> http://forums.cessnaowner.org/read/1/607
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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