---------------------------------------------------------- Cessna-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 02/13/08: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:15 AM - Re: Form 8110-3 (D Wysong) 2. 11:50 AM - Re: Re: Form 8110-3 (bruce breckenridge) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:15:28 AM PST US From: "D Wysong" Subject: Cessna-List: Re: Form 8110-3 Hi Bruce, You are only bound by 23.853(a), (b), (c), and (e), so the fancy logbook sticker (assuming it specifically states that the materials used in your refurb satisfy the pertinent FARs) should suffice. However, you might need to educate your IA a bit. First, I'd contact the refurb shop and find out where they buy their materials. Since they provided a "complies with FARs" sticker in your logbook everything *should* be coming from a reputable source (e.g. - AirTex) where burn rate testing on the materials is fully documented. Obtain proof and provide it to the IA. However, the IAs I work with aren't ignorant folks so he/she might know more about the situation (i.e. - the refurb shop) than you do. You might find out that the refurb shop buys their materials from some unknown shop ("Flammable Fabrics-R-Us") in which case things can get a little sticky. Again, check with the manufacturer to see if the materials used have been tested per Part 23 (or 25). If so and they pass, you're set. Get the documented proof and provide it to the IA. If the materials have NOT been tested and no proof of FAR compliance exists, then I'd strongly suggest (with threat of legal action, if necessary) to the refurb shop that they pay to send coupons out to one of the FAA certified labs (e.g. - Skandia) for testing. If the coupons pass, all is well. If the coupons fails, hire a lawyer. Best of luck, D References: *http://tinyurl.com/3dp9av* http://www.avweb.com/newspics/obrien.pdf http://forums.cessnaowner.org/read/1/607 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:50:51 AM PST US From: "bruce breckenridge" Subject: Re: Cessna-List: Re: Form 8110-3 Thanks so much for the clarification and especially the links. We got the sticker and the burn sheets, so it looks like we're set! On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:11 AM, D Wysong wrote: > Hi Bruce, > > You are only bound by 23.853(a), (b), (c), and (e), so the fancy logbook > sticker (assuming it specifically states that the materials used in your > refurb satisfy the pertinent FARs) should suffice. However, you might need > to educate your IA a bit. > > First, I'd contact the refurb shop and find out where they buy their > materials. Since they provided a "complies with FARs" sticker in your > logbook everything *should* be coming from a reputable source (e.g. - > AirTex) where burn rate testing on the materials is fully documented. > Obtain proof and provide it to the IA. > > However, the IAs I work with aren't ignorant folks so he/she might know > more about the situation (i.e. - the refurb shop) than you do. You might > find out that the refurb shop buys their materials from some unknown shop > ("Flammable Fabrics-R-Us") in which case things can get a little sticky. > Again, check with the manufacturer to see if the materials used have been > tested per Part 23 (or 25). If so and they pass, you're set. Get the > documented proof and provide it to the IA. If the materials have NOT been > tested and no proof of FAR compliance exists, then I'd strongly suggest > (with threat of legal action, if necessary) to the refurb shop that they pay > to send coupons out to one of the FAA certified labs (e.g. - Skandia) for > testing. If the coupons pass, all is well. If the coupons fails, hire a > lawyer. > > Best of luck, > > D > > References: > *http://tinyurl.com/3dp9av* > http://www.avweb.com/newspics/obrien.pdf > http://forums.cessnaowner.org/read/1/607 > > * > > * > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message cessna-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Cessna-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/cessna-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/cessna-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.