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     4. 06:46 PM - Re: Re: New kid (Darrell Haas)
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      Hello,
           I'm a new kid on the block and my wife and I are considering buying a
      C150/2. We would use the plane to go out on the weekend and do the $100
      Hamburger thing plus would love to do some air-camping on some of the strips
      in Oregon and Idaho. Maybe even take a month and travel around the USA.I
      would love any advice on where to find one, what to look for, what to stay
      away from, etc. Any help would be helpful. Also if you live near Troutdale (
      Portland) Oregon I would love to hear from you.
      Thank you,
      Darrell Haas
      
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      Welcome Darryl,
      The 150 is a fun plane but you will need to consider it's gross weight limit and
      CG, depending on how much camping gear you plan to haul for the air-camping
      trips.  They are not a very good performing mountain plane.... climb rate is very
      low when loaded (at high density alt).  If you and your wife are on the small
      side, you might be able to get away with it.
      Other than that the 150 is a great plane and is very economical as planes go.
      Good luck!
      
      --------
      Jim Hefner
      Tucson, AZ
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      IMHO,
      
      I would go with a 172.  The advantages are: 1.  More Horsepower.  That equals better
      climb rate (an asset in the mountains)and a few more knots.  2.  More load
      capacity.  With you and your wife, you should be able to load the back seat
      with camping gear or take the back seat out for a large cargo area.  Either will
      give you enough room for a weekend getaway.  3.  Comfort.  Two adults in a
      152 no  matter what size, will be cramped.
      
      The 152 is a great training airplane but I personally would not have one for cross
      country flying.  I have a friend that owns a 152 and have flown a short cross
      country with him.  It was not the best but it did get the job done.  I rode
      with my arm on the back of his seat as we could not go shoulder to shoulder.
      He flies cross country in the plane as a solo passenger.  The right seat comes
      out and he loads his camping gear and a bicycle on board.
      
      Dave Nellis
      
      --- On Sun, 3/8/09, jimhefner <hefner_jim@msn.com> wrote:
      
      > From: jimhefner <hefner_jim@msn.com>
      > Subject: Cessna-List: Re: New kid
      > To: cessna-list@matronics.com
      > Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 8:29 PM
      > "jimhefner" <hefner_jim@msn.com>
      > 
      > Welcome Darryl,
      > The 150 is a fun plane but you will need to consider it's
      > gross weight limit and CG, depending on how much camping
      > gear you plan to haul for the air-camping trips. They
      > are not a very good performing mountain plane.... climb rate
      > is very low when loaded (at high density alt). If you
      > and your wife are on the small side, you might be able to
      > get away with it.
      > Other than that the 150 is a great plane and is very
      > economical as planes go.
      > Good luck!
      > 
      > --------
      > Jim Hefner
      > Tucson, AZ
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      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233794#233794
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      Thank you for the reply.
      Darrell
      
      On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Dave Nellis <truflite@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      >
      >
      > IMHO,
      >
      > I would go with a 172.  The advantages are: 1.  More Horsepower.  That
      > equals better climb rate (an asset in the mountains)and a few more knots.
      >  2.  More load capacity.  With you and your wife, you should be able to load
      > the back seat with camping gear or take the back seat out for a large cargo
      > area.  Either will give you enough room for a weekend getaway.  3.  Comfort.
      >  Two adults in a 152 no  matter what size, will be cramped.
      >
      > The 152 is a great training airplane but I personally would not have one
      > for cross country flying.  I have a friend that owns a 152 and have flown a
      > short cross country with him.  It was not the best but it did get the job
      > done.  I rode with my arm on the back of his seat as we could not go
      > shoulder to shoulder.  He flies cross country in the plane as a solo
      > passenger.  The right seat comes out and he loads his camping gear and a
      > bicycle on board.
      >
      > Dave Nellis
      >
      > --- On Sun, 3/8/09, jimhefner <hefner_jim@msn.com> wrote:
      >
      > > From: jimhefner <hefner_jim@msn.com>
      > > Subject: Cessna-List: Re: New kid
      > > To: cessna-list@matronics.com
      > > Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 8:29 PM
      > > "jimhefner" <hefner_jim@msn.com>
      > >
      > > Welcome Darryl,
      > > The 150 is a fun plane but you will need to consider it's
      > > gross weight limit and CG, depending on how much camping
      > > gear you plan to haul for the air-camping trips.  They
      > > are not a very good performing mountain plane.... climb rate
      > > is very low when loaded (at high density alt).  If you
      > > and your wife are on the small side, you might be able to
      > > get away with it.
      > > Other than that the 150 is a great plane and is very
      > > economical as planes go.
      > > Good luck!
      > >
      > > --------
      > > Jim Hefner
      > > Tucson, AZ
      > > Do Not Archive
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Read this topic online here:
      > >
      > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233794#233794
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      Darrell
      Go with a C-182 and I would say a 1959 C 182B.  That is the best of the 
      182's for what you are looking for.  great back country A/C.  The Cessna
       180/185 would be better, but much more money.   I have owned 150/172/18
      2 and others.  Just go with the 182!!!!!!
      Wayne
      
      -- Darrell Haas <darrellhaas@gmail.com> wrote:
      Thank you for the reply.
      Darrell
      
      
      On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Dave Nellis <truflite@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      
      IMHO,
      
      I would go with a 172.  The advantages are: 1.  More Horsepower.  That e
      quals better climb rate (an asset in the mountains)and a few more knots.
        2.  More load capacity.  With you and your wife, you should be able to
       load the back seat with camping gear or take the back seat out for a la
      rge cargo area.  Either will give you enough room for a weekend getaway.
        3.  Comfort.  Two adults in a 152 no  matter what size, will be crampe
      d.
      
      The 152 is a great training airplane but I personally would not have one
       for cross country flying.  I have a friend that owns a 152 and have flo
      wn a short cross country with him.  It was not the best but it did get t
      he job done.  I rode with my arm on the back of his seat as we could not
       go shoulder to shoulder.  He flies cross country in the plane as a solo
       passenger.  The right seat comes out and he loads his camping gear and 
      a bicycle on board.
      
      Dave Nellis
      
      --- On Sun, 3/8/09, jimhefner <hefner_jim@msn.com> wrote:
      
      > From: jimhefner <hefner_jim@msn.com>
      > Subject: Cessna-List: Re: New kid
      > To: cessna-list@matronics.com
      > Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 8:29 PM
      > "jimhefner" <hefner_jim@msn.com>
      >
      > Welcome Darryl,
      > The 150 is a fun plane but you will need to consider it's
      > gross weight limit and CG, depending on how much camping
      > gear you plan to haul for the air-camping trips.  They
      > are not a very good performing mountain plane.... climb rate
      > is very low when loaded (at high density alt).  If you
      > and your wife are on the small side, you might be able to
      > get away with it.
      > Other than that the 150 is a great plane and is very
      > economical as planes go.
      > Good luck!
      >
      > --------
      > Jim Hefner
      > Tucson, AZ
      > Do Not Archive
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233794#233794
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      Sounds great but I'm sure that's probably way more than I can afford. Thank
      you,
      Darrell
      
      On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Wayne Lenox <waynelenox@juno.com> wrote:
      
      > Darrell
      >
      > Go with a C-182 and I would say a 1959 C 182B.  That is the best of the
      > 182's for what you are looking for.  great back country A/C.  The Cessna
      > 180/185 would be better, but much more money.   I have owned 150/172/182 and
      > others.  Just go with the 182!!!!!!
      >
      > Wayne
      >
      >
      > -- Darrell Haas <darrellhaas@gmail.com> wrote:
      > Thank you for the reply.
      > Darrell
      >
      > On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Dave Nellis <truflite@yahoo.com> wrote:
      >
      >>
      >>
      >> IMHO,
      >>
      >> I would go with a 172.  The advantages are: 1.  More Horsepower.  That
      >> equals better climb rate (an asset in the mountains)and a few more knots.
      >>  2.  More load capacity.  With you and your wife, you should be able to load
      >> the back seat with camping gear or take the back seat out for a large cargo
      >> area.  Either will give you enough room for a weekend getaway.  3.  Comfort.
      >>  Two adults in a 152 no  matter what size, will be cramped.
      >>
      >> The 152 is a great training airplane but I personally would not have one
      >> for cross country flying.  I have a friend that owns a 152 and have flown a
      >> short cross country with him.  It was not the best but it did get the job
      >> done.  I rode with my arm on the back of his seat as we could not go
      >> shoulder to shoulder.  He flies cross country in the plane as a solo
      >> passenger.  The right seat comes out and he loads his camping gear and a
      >> bicycle on board.
      >>
      >> Dave Nellis
      >>
      >> --- On Sun, 3/8/09, jimhefner <hefner_jim@msn.com> wrote:
      >>
      >> > From: jimhefner <hefner_jim@msn.com>
      >> > Subject: Cessna-List: Re: New kid
      >> > To: cessna-list@matronics.com
      >> > Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 8:29 PM
      >> > "jimhefner" <hefner_jim@msn.com>
      >> >
      >> > Welcome Darryl,
      >> > The 150 is a fun plane but you will need to consider it's
      >> > gross weight limit and CG, depending on how much camping
      >> > gear you plan to haul for the air-camping trips.  They
      >> > are not a very good performing mountain plane.... climb rate
      >> > is very low when loaded (at high density alt).  If you
      >> > and your wife are on the small side, you might be able to
      >> > get away with it.
      >> > Other than that the 150 is a great plane and is very
      >> > economical as planes go.
      >> > Good luck!
      >> >
      >> > --------
      >> > Jim Hefner
      >> > Tucson, AZ
      >> > Do Not Archive
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > Read this topic online here:
      >> >
      >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233794#233794
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
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