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?? I also have a C-182P that I have owned for the last 4 years (though I have been
flying this same plane for some 30 years).? It is just a great cross country
airplane?with long rang?hauling and is?good on short grass strips.? It is my
flying truck, and it handles like one.
???I also have a Grumman AA-1B with 150HP (conversion) that I have owned for 27
(going on 28) years.? It is my little fighter plane, that is fun to fly and great
for short range missions for two people.? This is an economical airplane
to operate, and simple in maintenance (once you know the quirks of the Grumman
line).??With only 22 gal fuel (stock) limits range though.
?? Some other possible choices are a C-150-150 (150HP conversion) I have flown
one and they offer great back country performance if that is what you are looking
for.? Limited fuel makes for a lot of stops on cross countries...
?? Grumman AA-1 series offer very economical performance, and there are many available
with 150 / 160HP conversions and higher GW.? The stock airplane is limited
in T/O and climb performance, a converted airplane can be just as economical
to operate (unless you like to go fast) and most have GW increases to offset
the conversion empty weight increase.? These offer exceptional performance,
almost rivaling the RV Hombuilts.? Again, limited range is a draw back.? Aux
fuel tanks are available, but tend to make it a single place airplane.
?? Grumman AA-5 Traveler - Another economical option with better speed then a 172,
and love those fold down rear seats for hauling stuff.? Also fun handling
qualities.? Better cross country performance and range.? With any Grumman, find
a good Grumman knowledgeable mechanic to look the airplane over and teach you
the ropes of the type.? Simple to work on once you know what to look for.
?? Stinson 108 Station Wagon - Spent some time with this type, good back country
performance.? Can be found at good prices and with a wide variation of engines.?
Stock engine is the Franklin which has some parts challenges.
?? Aeronca Sedan - After flying one, I keep thinking about this one.? Hard to find
and prices a bit higher, but a great 4 place classic with good performance.
?
?? Rich Harrison
?? Helps to have a wife that is an A&P :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Smith <smithpae@yahoo.com>
Sent: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 7:20 pm
Subject: Re: Cessna-List: Re: New kid
I agree.? You definitely do NOT want to go into the back country of Idaho (Oregon
and the cascades are much lower and cooler) with a 150.? In fact, you do not
want to go into any mountain strip under powered.? I have a 182A with a STOL
kit and C-310 nose gear.? It is a great back country airplane.? I currently live
in Wy, but lived in Idaho, and have flown into some of their great strips.?
There is a group of aircampers that goes to different strips every weekend in
the summer in Id.
PS
?
There is a danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be
to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty. So long as
men worship the Caesars and Napoleons, Caesars and Napoleons will duly rise and
make them miserable.
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From: Wayne Lenox <waynelenox@juno.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 8:13:56 PM
Subject: Re: Cessna-List: Re: New kid
Darrell
Go with a C-182 and I would say a 1959 C 182B.? That is the best of the 182's for
what you are looking for.? great back country A/C.? The Cessna 180/185 would
be better, but much more money.?? I have owned 150/172/182 and others.? Just
go with the 182!!!!!!
Wayne
-- Darrell Haas <darrellhaas@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you for the reply.
Darrell
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Dave Nellis <truflite@yahoo.com> wrote:
IMHO,
I would go with a 172. ?The advantages are: 1. ?More Horsepower. ?That equals better
climb rate (an asset in the mountains)and a few more knots. ?2. ?More load
capacity. ?With you and your wife, you should be able to load the back seat
with camping gear or take the back seat out for a large cargo area. ?Either will
give you enough room for a weekend getaway. ?3. ?Comfort. ?Two adults in a
152 no ?matter what size, will be cramped.
The 152 is a great training airplane but I personally would not have one for cross
country flying. ?I have a friend that owns a 152 and have flown a short cross
country with him. ?It was not the best but it did get the job done. ?I rode
with my arm on the back of his seat as we could not go shoulder to shoulder.
?He flies cross country in the plane as a solo passenger. ?The right seat comes
out and he loads his camping gear and a bicycle on board.
Dave Nellis
--- On Sun, 3/8/09, jimhefner <hefner_jim@msn.com> wrote:
> From: jimhefner <hefner_jim@msn.com>
> Subject: Cessna-List: Re: New kid
> To: cessna-list@matronics.com
> Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 8:29 PM
> "jimhefner" <hefner_jim@msn.com>
>
> Welcome Darryl,
> The 150 is a fun plane but you will need to consider it's
> gross weight limit and CG, depending on how much camping
> gear you plan to haul for the air-camping trips.? They
> are not a very good performing mountain plane.... climb rate
> is very low when loaded (at high density alt).? If you
> and your wife are on the small side, you might be able to
> get away with it.
> Other than that the 150 is a great plane and is very
> economical as planes go.
> Good luck!
>
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> Tucson, AZ
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