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1. 04:24 AM - Re: Good news tonight (n414c)
2. 06:01 AM - Re: Good news tonight (TILLMAN333@aol.com)
3. 06:10 AM - Re: Good news tonight (Bow)
4. 07:41 AM - Re: Good news tonight (CloudCraft@aol.com)
5. 08:05 AM - 121.5 (Barry Hancock)
6. 09:42 AM - Re: Questions regarding the 680FL (Jim Crunkleton)
7. 10:25 AM - MORE NEW MEMBERS!! (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
8. 10:40 AM - Re: Questions regarding the 680FL (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
9. 11:19 AM - Re: MORE NEW MEMBERS!! (CloudCraft@aol.com)
10. 11:43 AM - Re: MORE NEW MEMBERS!! (Nico van Niekerk)
11. 12:38 PM - Re: MORE NEW MEMBERS!! (CloudCraft@aol.com)
12. 01:20 PM - Re: MORE NEW MEMBERS!! (Barry Collman)
13. 01:21 PM - Re: MORE NEW MEMBERS!! (Tom Fisher)
14. 05:09 PM - Pick a Number, Any Number (CloudCraft@aol.com)
15. 05:13 PM - Re: Geared vs other than geared (CapnSpray@aol.com)
16. 05:17 PM - Re: Questions regarding the 680FL (CapnSpray@aol.com)
17. 05:30 PM - Re: Pick a Number, Any Number (Chris Schuermann)
18. 05:43 PM - MORE NEW MEMBERS!! (Bow)
19. 05:46 PM - Re: Pick a Number, Any Number (Bow)
20. 05:48 PM - Re: MORE NEW MEMBERS!! (JBOBSTER@aol.com)
21. 06:05 PM - Re: MORE NEW MEMBERS!! (Bow)
22. 06:10 PM - Re: MORE NEW MEMBERS!! (JBOBSTER@aol.com)
23. 07:01 PM - Re: MORE NEW MEMBERS!! (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
24. 07:06 PM - Re: MORE NEW MEMBERS!! (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
25. 07:06 PM - Re: Pick a Number, Any Number (CloudCraft@aol.com)
26. 07:07 PM - Re: Pick a Number, Any Number (CloudCraft@aol.com)
27. 07:27 PM - Re: MORE NEW MEMBERS!! (Bow)
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| Subject: | Re: Good news tonight |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "n414c" <n414c@direcway.com>
Awesome
Milt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bow" <w.bow@att.net>
Subject: Commander-List: Good news tonight
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" <w.bow@att.net>
>
> Tonight at about 0100 UTC there was a MAYDAY on 121.5 while we were
crossing
> the Rockies. He said he was "Going Down" and was looking for a road. I
> asked his position, to relay to ATC and he said he was "50 north of
Tucson".
> I lost contact with him but someone closer relayed he had landed on the
road
> safely and all were well.
>
> It is a good night in aviation.
>
> bilbo
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Good news tonight |
--> Commander-List message posted by: TILLMAN333@aol.com
Bilbo,
Great Story.
Please advise if you Heavy Metal drivers always listen to 121.5
I personally do. Radio #2
Fly Safe & Hello to the family.
Gary Tillman
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| Subject: | Re: Good news tonight |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" <w.bow@att.net>
> Please advise if you Heavy Metal drivers always listen to 121.5
> I personally do. Radio #2
> Fly Safe & Hello to the family.
> Gary Tillman
I can't speak for all, but I try to. Since September 11th it could be your
last chance before you hear the "big bang".
bilbo
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| Subject: | Re: Good news tonight |
--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 12/06/02 06:01:31 Pacific Standard Time,
TILLMAN333@aol.com writes:
> Please advise if you Heavy Metal drivers always listen to 121.5
> I personally do. Radio #2
We're all supposed to now. That's via NOTAM, since Septmeber 11.
I got in the habit in Alaska in 1977 and if I have a COMM not in use, it's on
Guard. The distress call / signal you hear may be your own.
Wait, that didn't make sense, but you get the idea. ;-)
Wing Commander Gordon
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
I think this falls under the category of, "it doesn't apply to me." I'm
guilty myself, I've probably flown 100 times since 9/11 and monitored
Guard only half a dozen times. Look guys, and I include myself here, if
we are not going to exercise good airmanship (i.e. following NOTAMS) how
can we expect others to do the same. What if everyone flying that day
in your vicinity had this attitude and you had an emergency....if a tree
falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a
sound? It may be unlikely to happen to us driving twins, but if we're
not monitoring 121.5 we cannot assist others in trouble as Bilbo did.
Once again, WCG proves his superiority to us mere mortals...
Barry
On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 07:40 AM, CloudCraft@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Please advise if you Heavy Metal drivers always listen to 121.5
>> I personally do. Radio #2
>
> We're all supposed to now. That's via NOTAM, since Septmeber 11.
>
> I got in the habit in Alaska in 1977 and if I have a COMM not in use,
> it's on
> Guard. The distress call / signal you hear may be your own.
>
> Wait, that didn't make sense, but you get the idea. ;-)
>
> Wing Commander Gordon
Barry Hancock
All Red Star
(949) 300-5510
radialpower@cox.net
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes!"
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| Subject: | Re: Questions regarding the 680FL |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Jim Crunkleton <crunk12@bellsouth.net>
Randy Dettmer, AIA wrote:
>--> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" <rcdettmer@charter.net>
>
>I have found that "soup cans" work perfectly over the exhaust pipes. In
>fact, I have included "remove soup cans" on my pre-flight check list. And,
>they last longer than styrofoam cups...especially when the pipes are hot.
>
>Randy Dettmer
>680F/N6253X
>
>Randy,
>
Do you heat the soup after start-up and then eat it or do you heat it up
upon arrival and then eat it? Also, which brand does best? :-)
Crunk
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <CloudCraft@aol.com>
>To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Questions regarding the 680FL
>
>
>>--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
>>
>>In a message dated 12/04/02 16:08:37 Pacific Standard Time,
>>
>CapnSpray@aol.com
>
>>writes:
>>
>>
>>> if
>>>your aircraft is left outside in the rain tied down, close your cowl
>>>
>flaps
>
>>>and put some Styrofoam cups over your exhaust pipes.
>>>
>>That is such good advice! That goes for ALL the flat nacelle models, by
>>
>the
>
>>way.
>>
>>Nice work, Capn' Spray.
>>
>>Wing Commander Gordon
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | MORE NEW MEMBERS!! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
HI KIDS.
I have been out of town all week and hence, behind in my mail. I have
four new members to introduce to you.
First is David Talley. David lives in San Antonio, TX with his wife Miriam,
who is a Major in the USAF! They are planing a hangar at there home and it
will be large enough to accommodate a Commander. They have looked at a
derelict 560E near their home. They are currently flying a Stinson 108.
Next is Kerry Johnson of St. George, UT. Like David, he is looking
for his first Commander. Kerry is an electrical contractor as well as owner
of Flight Levels Aviation.
Then we have Mr. Blake Deal from Ponte Vedra, FL. Blake owns a 500,
SN 751. He is an attorney and says his Commander is "stock" and very
original.
Finally we have Mr. Bill Culwell. We all know Bill as
"barshalom@aol.com on the list. Bill owns a 500B with 7200 hr. TT It too is
very original.
Welcome aboard all!! Our group is growing, Thanks to all for
spreading the word and to Barry Collman of forwarding to me the registration
changes each month. jb
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| Subject: | Re: Questions regarding the 680FL |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" <rcdettmer@charter.net>
I find that if I stick the cans in just under the cowling on top of the
engines (secured with duct tape of course, so they don't rattle around
during take-off and cruise...), they will be nice and warm (and tasty) after
shut-down. The problem is that it takes 4 soup cans, so I get awfully
stuffed each time I put those cans on the stacks. (I always try to plan on
arriving at my destination around lunch time.)
BTY, Campbell's Tomato soup is my favorite.
RD
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Crunkleton" <crunk12@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Questions regarding the 680FL
> --> Commander-List message posted by: Jim Crunkleton
<crunk12@bellsouth.net>
>
> Randy Dettmer, AIA wrote:
>
> >--> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA"
<rcdettmer@charter.net>
> >
> >I have found that "soup cans" work perfectly over the exhaust pipes. In
> >fact, I have included "remove soup cans" on my pre-flight check list.
And,
> >they last longer than styrofoam cups...especially when the pipes are hot.
> >
> >Randy Dettmer
> >680F/N6253X
> >
> >Randy,
> >
> Do you heat the soup after start-up and then eat it or do you heat it up
> upon arrival and then eat it? Also, which brand does best? :-)
> Crunk
>
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <CloudCraft@aol.com>
> >To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Re: Commander-List: Questions regarding the 680FL
> >
> >
> >>--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
> >>
> >>In a message dated 12/04/02 16:08:37 Pacific Standard Time,
> >>
> >CapnSpray@aol.com
> >
> >>writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>> if
> >>>your aircraft is left outside in the rain tied down, close your cowl
> >>>
> >flaps
> >
> >>>and put some Styrofoam cups over your exhaust pipes.
> >>>
> >>That is such good advice! That goes for ALL the flat nacelle models, by
> >>
> >the
> >
> >>way.
> >>
> >>Nice work, Capn' Spray.
> >>
> >>Wing Commander Gordon
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MORE NEW MEMBERS!! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 12/06/02 10:26:17 Pacific Standard Time, YOURTCFG@aol.com
writes:
> I have four new members to introduce to you.
>
Welcome aboard, Gentlemen!
I know "Kilowatt" Kerry and Bill from their posts on this email net. I hope
Major Talley and Mr. Deal, Esq., will check in and introduce themselves.
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Re: MORE NEW MEMBERS!! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Nico van Niekerk" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
I am a little confused, WCG. (Which is the ordinary state of affairs around
here.)
Are the new members introduced here fee paying members or are they merely
list-members. If the latter, how are they entered into the list
distribution?
I introduced a guy last week but don't know if he's on the list or not. I
gave his email address.
Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: <CloudCraft@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: MORE NEW MEMBERS!!
> --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 12/06/02 10:26:17 Pacific Standard Time,
YOURTCFG@aol.com
> writes:
>
>
> > I have four new members to introduce to you.
> >
>
> Welcome aboard, Gentlemen!
>
> I know "Kilowatt" Kerry and Bill from their posts on this email net. I
hope
> Major Talley and Mr. Deal, Esq., will check in and introduce themselves.
>
> Wing Commander Gordon
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MORE NEW MEMBERS!! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 12/06/02 11:43:39 Pacific Standard Time,
nico@cybersuperstore.com writes:
> I am a little confused, WCG. (Which is the ordinary state of affairs around
> here.)
> Are the new members introduced here fee paying members or are they merely
> list-members. If the latter, how are they entered into the list
> distribution?
>
Nico,
I'll leave that for our Fearless Leader, Capt. JimBob to clear up, but ...
My best guess is that Members are just that: (paying)Members of the Twin
Commander Flight Group.
Jim has been gracious enough to let anyone interested in Commanders
participate in the email net with the hopes that they see the enormous value
of our vast wisdom, experience, wit and bull s#%*! and be inspired to join
the TCFG.
Wing Commander Gordon
(member #0001, if I may flaunt it)
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| Subject: | Re: MORE NEW MEMBERS!! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
OK - if WCG has grabbed Memb.No. 0001, I'm going to grab 007.
Well, I think Commander Bond is rather apt. That was his number, and I've got a
bond with Commanders.
Can you register that please, Capt. Jimbob, before some other bright spark nicks
it!
Hey, and what about 011 for Crunk Minor. (well 011 could be construed as 'oil').
Barry C. ;-)
----- Original Message -----
From: <CloudCraft@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: MORE NEW MEMBERS!!
| --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
|
| In a message dated 12/06/02 11:43:39 Pacific Standard Time,
| nico@cybersuperstore.com writes:
|
|
| > I am a little confused, WCG. (Which is the ordinary state of affairs around
| > here.)
| > Are the new members introduced here fee paying members or are they merely
| > list-members. If the latter, how are they entered into the list
| > distribution?
| >
|
| Nico,
|
| I'll leave that for our Fearless Leader, Capt. JimBob to clear up, but ...
|
| My best guess is that Members are just that: (paying)Members of the Twin
| Commander Flight Group.
|
| Jim has been gracious enough to let anyone interested in Commanders
| participate in the email net with the hopes that they see the enormous value
| of our vast wisdom, experience, wit and bull s#%*! and be inspired to join
| the TCFG.
|
| Wing Commander Gordon
| (member #0001, if I may flaunt it)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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| Subject: | Re: MORE NEW MEMBERS!! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
> Jim has been gracious enough to let anyone interested in Commanders
> participate in the email net with the hopes that they see the enormous
value
> of our vast wisdom, experience, wit and bull s#%*! and be inspired to join
> the TCFG.
It worked for me, although I was really waiting for the courts to stop my Ex
from purloining my money.
> Wing Commander Gordon
> (member #0001, if I may flaunt it)
Hey! where is my number?
You got a number, I want a number, my pretty silver "Membership card" must
have been exposed to high heat and melted flat because I can't see my name
or number on it anywhere.
Tom :-)
----- Original Message -----
From: <CloudCraft@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: MORE NEW MEMBERS!!
> --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 12/06/02 11:43:39 Pacific Standard Time,
> nico@cybersuperstore.com writes:
>
>
> > I am a little confused, WCG. (Which is the ordinary state of affairs
around
> > here.)
> > Are the new members introduced here fee paying members or are they
merely
> > list-members. If the latter, how are they entered into the list
> > distribution?
> >
>
> Nico,
>
> I'll leave that for our Fearless Leader, Capt. JimBob to clear up, but ...
>
> My best guess is that Members are just that: (paying)Members of the Twin
> Commander Flight Group.
>
> Jim has been gracious enough to let anyone interested in Commanders
> participate in the email net with the hopes that they see the enormous
value
> of our vast wisdom, experience, wit and bull s#%*! and be inspired to join
> the TCFG.
>
> Wing Commander Gordon
> (member #0001, if I may flaunt it)
>
>
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| Subject: | Pick a Number, Any Number |
--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 12/06/02 13:22:01 Pacific Standard Time,
tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes:
> Hey! where is my number? You got a number, I want a number,
Uh oh. What have I done now? I didn't mean to start any kind of "pecking
order."
I was just trying to build up some pride in TCFG membership.
Of course, making Sir Barry #007 does make sense.
But do let us remeber that James Bond's superiors all have letters and not
numbers ...
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Re: Geared vs other than geared |
--> Commander-List message posted by: CapnSpray@aol.com
In a message dated 12/5/02 9:02:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,
n414c@direcway.com writes:
> After 2 years do you really think you will get the purchase price plus the
> cost of a conversion back?
>
thank you Dr. Milt: You have just hit the nail on the head.
capn spray
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| Subject: | Re: Questions regarding the 680FL |
--> Commander-List message posted by: CapnSpray@aol.com
I failed to mention my MP. I was in the power chart at 65% power and my MP
was 29.5". At this MP I indicate 180 MPH.
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| Subject: | Re: Pick a Number, Any Number |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <chris@skymaster.c2-tech.com>
CloudCraft@aol.com wrote:
> But do let us remeber that James Bond's superiors all have letters and not
> numbers ...
Well then...that pretty much makes me "Q" then doesn't it? (which
certainly in no way implies any superiority to much more than a head of
lettuce)
Hmm, maybe not. Could be confused with "The Q" of Star Trek fame....
Of course all my engineer geek friends would first think of the slope of
a bandpass filter...no, that's not good. When talking, someone might
think I was refering to "queue", and I've never been that great with
numerical theory so that won't work. I don't put blue chalk on my head
and hit balls with it so that's not a fit... never mind......
Just Chris
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| Subject: | MORE NEW MEMBERS!! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" <w.bow@att.net>
Where is Ponte Verde, Florida?
bilbo
Clermont, Florida
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| Subject: | Re: Pick a Number, Any Number |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" <w.bow@att.net>
Well somebody has got to do it. It might as well be me. IS THE NUMBER 69
AVAILABLE?
bilbo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Schuermann" <chris@skymaster.c2-tech.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Pick a Number, Any Number
> --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann
<chris@skymaster.c2-tech.com>
>
>
> CloudCraft@aol.com wrote:
> > But do let us remeber that James Bond's superiors all have letters and
not
> > numbers ...
>
> Well then...that pretty much makes me "Q" then doesn't it? (which
> certainly in no way implies any superiority to much more than a head of
> lettuce)
> Hmm, maybe not. Could be confused with "The Q" of Star Trek fame....
> Of course all my engineer geek friends would first think of the slope of
> a bandpass filter...no, that's not good. When talking, someone might
> think I was refering to "queue", and I've never been that great with
> numerical theory so that won't work. I don't put blue chalk on my head
> and hit balls with it so that's not a fit... never mind......
>
> Just Chris
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MORE NEW MEMBERS!! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: JBOBSTER@aol.com
an elite community near Jacksonville, FL
Jim C
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| Subject: | Re: MORE NEW MEMBERS!! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" <w.bow@att.net>
Well I seem to have mis-conscrewed the Ponte Vedra to Ponte Verde. Maybe a
little dyslexic. I'm not sure who Jim C is but, I think I saw this 500 in
Leesburg Fl. If it is the same one, It is DROP DEAD GORGEOUS 500. However
sometimes the door key is nowhere to be found.
bilbo
----- Original Message -----
From: <JBOBSTER@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: MORE NEW MEMBERS!!
> --> Commander-List message posted by: JBOBSTER@aol.com
>
> an elite community near Jacksonville, FL
>
> Jim C
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MORE NEW MEMBERS!! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: JBOBSTER@aol.com
Jim C
...is Jim Carroll from Seattle, WA
...Commander wannabe
....182 owner for now....
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| Subject: | Re: MORE NEW MEMBERS!! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 12/6/02 1:21:21 PM Pacific Standard Time,
barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk writes:
> I'm going to grab 007.
NO, NO, NO...I am 007, James (jimbob, get it) OH well, I guess I can share.
jb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 12/6/02 6:06:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, w.bow@att.net
writes:
> However
> sometimes the door key is nowhere to be found.
>
Your will work, Commander only made ONE key!! jb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 12/06/02 17:30:30 Pacific Standard Time,
chris@skymaster.c2-tech.com writes:
> I don't put blue chalk on my head
> and hit balls with it so that's not a fit... never mind......
Chris,
Promise you'll never leave.
Wing Commander Gordon
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--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 12/06/02 17:45:08 Pacific Standard Time, w.bow@att.net
writes:
> Well somebody has got to do it. It might as well be me. IS THE NUMBER 69
> AVAILABLE?
Milt has it.
Wing Commander Gordon
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" <w.bow@att.net>
Mine didn't work the day he needed it.
bilbo
----- Original Message -----
From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: MORE NEW MEMBERS!!
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 12/6/02 6:06:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, w.bow@att.net
> writes:
>
> > However
> > sometimes the door key is nowhere to be found.
> >
>
> Your will work, Commander only made ONE key!! jb
>
>
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