---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 12/09/02: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:05 PM - One of those days! (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 2. 08:41 PM - Re: One of those days! (Barry Hancock) 3. 09:30 PM - Re: One of those days! (Jim Addington) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:16 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: One of those days! --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com HI KIDS. Well, I hadn't flow triple two in about 2 weeks and it is going to be raining hear for the foreseeable future, so I decided to go around the patch. Great TO, man I love those engines!! Rolled the gear out from under her ad climbed smartly into a strong east wind. When it was time to land I called for the gear and noticed the left main was a little sleepy, went for flaps and at 1/3 they stopped. Checked the hyd press, "0." I looked at the home drome and decided that landing on 2300 feet, over the trees with "maybe" brakes was not the wisest choice so I flew to Troutdale, OR, just across the river. Landed without incedent and bumed a ride home. Still don't know what is wrong, Hyd fluid is everywhere in the left nacelle. Oh well........jb ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:41:03 PM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: One of those days! From: Barry Hancock --> Commander-List message posted by: Barry Hancock > Still don't know what is wrong, Hyd fluid is everywhere in the > left nacelle. > Oh well........jb > Sheesh! Glad you and your plane are OK. One of my commercial driver buddies (FedEx DC-10) talks about looking at the HYDRAULIC press *constantly* on approach...it's something I've tried to incorporate in my scan, both before and after the gear come down. However, it's a little different going around the patch, especially in 680E where by the time you turn downwind it's already time for the gear! So, I'm not pickin' on you, JB! :) Anyway, I know most of you already do this, but I thought I'd just add it for consideration. I flew my 680E today as well (musta been something in the atmoshphere!). Flew a triangle "cargo" run from Chino to Torrance to Whiteman (Burbank) and back to Chino. TOA is a noise sensitive airport and they'll fine you if you ring their little noise sensors too much. Man, a max. performance TO in a 680E is something to behold. I pulled the nose off at 90 knots (red line plus 10) and kept it there. The result? A 2200 fpm sustained climb! Well, sustained until I pulled the power off for noise abatement....but even at 2700 R's and 35 in. MAP and 90 knots, I was still doing well over 1000 fpm....man I love the performance of that airplane. Hey, on another topic, are there any ex-military fighter or SOP guys among us? If so, All Red Star is putting on a simulated air war scenario in the desert in Feb. If you're interested in participating as a WSO/instructor, please contact me off list. Cheers, Barry ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:30:09 PM PST US From: "Jim Addington" Subject: RE: Commander-List: One of those days! --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" Hope it is just a loose line. Jim A N444BD -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: One of those days! --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com HI KIDS. Well, I hadn't flow triple two in about 2 weeks and it is going to be raining hear for the foreseeable future, so I decided to go around the patch. Great TO, man I love those engines!! Rolled the gear out from under her ad climbed smartly into a strong east wind. When it was time to land I called for the gear and noticed the left main was a little sleepy, went for flaps and at 1/3 they stopped. Checked the hyd press, "0." I looked at the home drome and decided that landing on 2300 feet, over the trees with "maybe" brakes was not the wisest choice so I flew to Troutdale, OR, just across the river. Landed without incedent and bumed a ride home. Still don't know what is wrong, Hyd fluid is everywhere in the left nacelle. Oh well........jb