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1. 01:27 AM - Status... (Matt Dralle)
2. 03:54 AM - Re: Status... (Jerry R. Sprayberry)
3. 10:59 AM - Flight Simulator 2002 (Barry Collman)
4. 11:40 AM - Re: Flight Simulator 2002 (Todd Hindmarsh)
5. 11:40 AM - Re: Flight Simulator 2002 (Frits Abbing)
6. 12:05 PM - Re: Flight Simulator 2002 (tom_kinnaird@bankone.com)
7. 12:40 PM - Re: Flight Simulator 2002 (Tom Fisher)
8. 02:09 PM - Re: Flight Simulator 2002 (Barry Collman)
9. 02:10 PM - Re: Flight Simulator 2002 (Barry Collman)
10. 02:39 PM - Re: Flight Simulator 2002 (Tom Fisher)
11. 03:26 PM - FW: Gorilla Love (Jim Addington)
12. 05:00 PM - STILL GROUNDED (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
13. 05:14 PM - Re: STILL GROUNDED (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
14. 06:41 PM - Re: STILL GROUNDED (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
15. 06:46 PM - Re: STILL GROUNDED (Buddy Windham)
16. 06:54 PM - Re: STILL GROUNDED (Chris Schuermann)
17. 08:26 PM - Re: STILL GROUNDED (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
18. 09:18 PM - OSH (Barry Hancock)
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
As promised, here's an update on this year's List Support Gift shipping
status! Wednesday 12/11 all of the CDROM-Only and all but 12 of the
CDROM+Flight Bag Gifts were shipped out via US Parcel Post. Maximum
delivery will be 8 days to the most remote areas.
For those receiving a CDROM+Flight Bag, note that the CDROM is tucked
inside one of the pouches in the Flight Bag so don't miss it!!
The remaining Flight-Bag+CDROM, Flight Bag-Only and A&P Book Sets will go
out as soon as the next shipments arrive, hopefully in the next few days.
Once again, I want to thank everyone that made a Contribution to this
year's Email List Fund Raiser! The email and web systems are now running
on brand new APC 2.2kva UPS systems thanks to the support of List members
this year. Additionally, the Email System will be upgraded later this
month with a new, Dual Processor 2.8Ghz Linux system due to arrive any
day! Your generosity has made these upgrades possible and nothing
else! Thank you so much!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jerry R. Sprayberry" <capnspray@direcway.com>
Thanks Mat, I was trying to change my email address to direcway.com and I
got myself on all the chat list that you have adn when I checked this morn I
had 208 msg's. I would like to only be on the commander chat list, could you
fix it for me? thanks Jerry Sprayberry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
Subject: Commander-List: Status...
> --> Commander-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> As promised, here's an update on this year's List Support Gift shipping
> status! Wednesday 12/11 all of the CDROM-Only and all but 12 of the
> CDROM+Flight Bag Gifts were shipped out via US Parcel Post. Maximum
> delivery will be 8 days to the most remote areas.
>
> For those receiving a CDROM+Flight Bag, note that the CDROM is tucked
> inside one of the pouches in the Flight Bag so don't miss it!!
>
> The remaining Flight-Bag+CDROM, Flight Bag-Only and A&P Book Sets will go
> out as soon as the next shipments arrive, hopefully in the next few days.
>
> Once again, I want to thank everyone that made a Contribution to this
> year's Email List Fund Raiser! The email and web systems are now running
> on brand new APC 2.2kva UPS systems thanks to the support of List members
> this year. Additionally, the Email System will be upgraded later this
> month with a new, Dual Processor 2.8Ghz Linux system due to arrive any
> day! Your generosity has made these upgrades possible and nothing
> else! Thank you so much!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Matt Dralle
>
> Email List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
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> 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
> http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| Subject: | Flight Simulator 2002 |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Hi Guys,
I'm involved with helping some guys produce a Model 520 (with other Models to
follow) for Microsoft's Flight Simulator 2002.
Has anyone got this?
If so, we'll need somebody to 'test-drive' the first production example.
A dangerous job, I acknowledge, but someone's got to do it, and they won't get
any pay, let alone danger money!!
Let me know asap, and I'll pass your email address on so that contact may be
established.
Best Regards,
Barry C.
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| Subject: | Flight Simulator 2002 |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Todd Hindmarsh" <todd@inpnet.org>
Barry,
I've got it. Add me to the list please.
Thanks,
Todd Hindmarsh
todd@inpnet.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
Collman
Subject: Commander-List: Flight Simulator 2002
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
<barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Hi Guys,
I'm involved with helping some guys produce a Model 520 (with other
Models to
follow) for Microsoft's Flight Simulator 2002.
Has anyone got this?
If so, we'll need somebody to 'test-drive' the first production example.
A dangerous job, I acknowledge, but someone's got to do it, and they
won't get
any pay, let alone danger money!!
Let me know asap, and I'll pass your email address on so that contact
may be
established.
Best Regards,
Barry C.
=
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| Subject: | Re: Flight Simulator 2002 |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Frits Abbing <fritsabbing@yahoo.com>
Barry,
OK to give the guys my e-mail address to testdrive a
520. After all we have a real one and we have the FS
2002.
Regards,
Frits Abbing
>
> I'm involved with helping some guys produce a Model
> 520 (with other Models to
> follow) for Microsoft's Flight Simulator 2002.
>
> Has anyone got this?
>
> If so, we'll need somebody to 'test-drive' the first
> production example.
>
> A dangerous job, I acknowledge, but someone's got to
> do it, and they won't get
> any pay, let alone danger money!!
>
> Let me know asap, and I'll pass your email address
> on so that contact may be
> established.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Barry C.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flight Simulator 2002 |
12/12/2002 03:04:51 PM
--> Commander-List message posted by: tom_kinnaird@bankone.com
Barry, you remember me don't you?? My Dad flew one of the real prototypes -
L1946! I have talked to Milton SHupe - PLEASE ADD ME!!! Home address is
COM840@aol.com. THanks!!
"Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>@matronics.com on
12/12/2002 02:00:28 PM
Please respond to commander-list@matronics.com
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cc:
Subject: Commander-List: Flight Simulator 2002
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
<barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Hi Guys,
I'm involved with helping some guys produce a Model 520 (with other Models
to
follow) for Microsoft's Flight Simulator 2002.
Has anyone got this?
If so, we'll need somebody to 'test-drive' the first production example.
A dangerous job, I acknowledge, but someone's got to do it, and they won't
get
any pay, let alone danger money!!
Let me know asap, and I'll pass your email address on so that contact may
be
established.
Best Regards,
Barry C.
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| Subject: | Re: Flight Simulator 2002 |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
I am using a 680FLP and a 500S aircraft in MSFS 2002.
I obtained them from a shareware site.
The handling characteristics of the aircraft models are quite realistic.
They have very little cockpit operational items other than radios and the
throttle quadrant.
FYI I also use ASA "On Top" for IFR procedures practice.
Tom...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Subject: Commander-List: Flight Simulator 2002
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
<barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I'm involved with helping some guys produce a Model 520 (with other Models
to
> follow) for Microsoft's Flight Simulator 2002.
>
> Has anyone got this?
>
> If so, we'll need somebody to 'test-drive' the first production example.
>
> A dangerous job, I acknowledge, but someone's got to do it, and they won't
get
> any pay, let alone danger money!!
>
> Let me know asap, and I'll pass your email address on so that contact may
be
> established.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Barry C.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flight Simulator 2002 |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Hi Tom,
I think you'll find that the ones being created by these guys are going to be
'The Biz". They are really trying to get everything right, even to Crunk
recording sound bytes of a real Model 520!
I'll let everybody know when the 520 is available, and the other Models they
propose to do.
Very Best Regards,
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Flight Simulator 2002
| --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher"
<tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
|
| I am using a 680FLP and a 500S aircraft in MSFS 2002.
| I obtained them from a shareware site.
| The handling characteristics of the aircraft models are quite realistic.
| They have very little cockpit operational items other than radios and the
| throttle quadrant.
|
| FYI I also use ASA "On Top" for IFR procedures practice.
|
| Tom...
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
| To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
| Subject: Commander-List: Flight Simulator 2002
|
|
| > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
| <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
| >
| > Hi Guys,
| >
| > I'm involved with helping some guys produce a Model 520 (with other Models
| to
| > follow) for Microsoft's Flight Simulator 2002.
| >
| > Has anyone got this?
| >
| > If so, we'll need somebody to 'test-drive' the first production example.
| >
| > A dangerous job, I acknowledge, but someone's got to do it, and they won't
| get
| > any pay, let alone danger money!!
| >
| > Let me know asap, and I'll pass your email address on so that contact may
| be
| > established.
| >
| > Best Regards,
| >
| > Barry C.
| >
| >
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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| Subject: | Re: Flight Simulator 2002 |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Hi guys!
I've passed on all the email addresses and hopefully, someone will be in touch
before too long.
Please be patient, as they are still adding finishing touches, and enhancing the
'look' of it all.
Thanks again!
Barry C.
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| Subject: | Re: Flight Simulator 2002 |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Can't wait!
I'm sure they will be more accurate than the 500S & 680FLP I am using now.
Tom...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Flight Simulator 2002
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
<barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I think you'll find that the ones being created by these guys are going to
be
> 'The Biz". They are really trying to get everything right, even to Crunk
> recording sound bytes of a real Model 520!
>
> I'll let everybody know when the 520 is available, and the other Models
they
> propose to do.
>
> Very Best Regards,
>
> Barry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Flight Simulator 2002
>
>
> <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
the
Models
example.
won't
may
>
>
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| Subject: | FW: Gorilla Love |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
Hope you don't kick me off the list for this one but it was too good not to
pass on.
[Jim Addington]
Subject: Gorilla Love
A small, rural West Virginia Wild Animal Park had acquired
a very rare species of gorilla. Within a few weeks,
the female gorilla became very difficult to handle.
Upon examination, the park veterinarian determined the
problem, the gorilla was in heat. To make matters worse,
there were no male gorillas of the species available.
While reflecting on their problem, the park administrators
noticed Ed, a part time, redneck intern, responsible
for cleaning the animals' cages.
Ed, like most rednecks, had little sense, but possessed
ample ability to satisfy a female of ANY species. So,
the park administrators thought they might have a solution.
Ed was approached with a proposition. Would he be willing
to have sex with the gorilla for $500? Ed showed some
interest, but said he would have to think the matter
over carefully. The following day, Ed announced that
he would accept their offer, but only under three conditions.
"First," he said, "I don't want to have to kiss her.
Secondly, you must never tell anyone about this." The
park administration quickly agreed to these conditions,
so they asked what was his third condition.
"Well," said Ed, "You gotta give me another week to come up
with the $500."
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
HI KIDS.......
Triple 2 is still stuck on the other side of the river. The weather
has been stinko since I fixed her. Ironically, I can see the Troutdale
airport from my hot tub, with a strong pair of binoculars I could probably
see her! But, cant get her home yet. Maybe tomorrow. Hope all is well in
Commanderland. jb
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| Subject: | Re: STILL GROUNDED |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" <rcdettmer@charter.net>
Thanks for the latest report. I always enjoy your updates on triple 2.
Maybe one day I'll get to see her in person...how about at Oshkosh this
year..??
Randy Dettmer
----- Original Message -----
From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
Subject: Commander-List: STILL GROUNDED
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
> HI KIDS.......
>
> Triple 2 is still stuck on the other side of the river. The
weather
> has been stinko since I fixed her. Ironically, I can see the Troutdale
> airport from my hot tub, with a strong pair of binoculars I could probably
> see her! But, cant get her home yet. Maybe tomorrow. Hope all is well
in
> Commanderland. jb
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: STILL GROUNDED |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 12/12/02 5:14:48 PM Pacific Standard Time,
rcdettmer@charter.net writes:
> .how about at Oshkosh this
> year..??
>
How about Oshkosh indeed?? Anybody ready to commit to the trip. Lets start
a plan now. I have lots of contacts there and may be able to secure a great
place to stay at an old farm house B & B we used when I ran Avid Aircraft.
jb
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| Subject: | Re: STILL GROUNDED |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Buddy Windham <bw_cycon@yahoo.com>
Jimbo, I go every year. Let's bring some of you west
coast boys to the land of cheese heads for some
fun..Theres never enough commanders at Osh
--- YOURTCFG@aol.com wrote:
> --> Commander-List message posted by:
> YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 12/12/02 5:14:48 PM Pacific
> Standard Time,
> rcdettmer@charter.net writes:
>
> > .how about at Oshkosh this
> > year..??
> >
>
> How about Oshkosh indeed?? Anybody ready to commit
> to the trip. Lets start
> a plan now. I have lots of contacts there and may
> be able to secure a great
> place to stay at an old farm house B & B we used
> when I ran Avid Aircraft.
> jb
>
>
>
> Click on the
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Cycon Enterprises, Inc.
General Contractors/Construction Management/Design Build
0-608 Quincy Street S.W.
Grandville, Michigan 49418
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| Subject: | Re: STILL GROUNDED |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <chris@skymaster.c2-tech.com>
YOURTCFG@aol.com wrote:
> How about Oshkosh indeed?? Anybody ready to commit to the trip.
<Chris Schuermann stands out by the runway holding his thumb up as
airplanes pass by>
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| Subject: | Re: STILL GROUNDED |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 12/12/02 6:46:37 PM Pacific Standard Time,
bw_cycon@yahoo.com writes:
> Jimbo, I go every year. Let's bring some of you west
> coast boys to the land of cheese heads for some
> fun..Theres never enough commanders at Osh
>
Sounds great to me. I went every year for many years, but always working. I
would love to be a spectator. Where did you stay?? jb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
Y'all can come to OSH and watch us (CJ's and Yaks) own the warbird
formation portion of the show again... :)
If I have an open back seat, I'll pick you up, Chris...
B
On Thursday, December 12, 2002, at 06:57 PM, Chris Schuermann wrote:
> --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann
> <chris@skymaster.c2-tech.com>
>
>
> YOURTCFG@aol.com wrote:
>> How about Oshkosh indeed?? Anybody ready to commit to the trip.
>
> <Chris Schuermann stands out by the runway holding his thumb up as
> airplanes pass by>
>
>
Barry Hancock
All Red Star
(949) 300-5510
radialpower@cox.net
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes!"
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