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Sat 12/14/02


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     1. 12:41 AM - Re: 560 parts plane for sale (Frits Abbing)
     2. 06:01 AM - Fw: 1952 Aero Commander 520 (JETPAUL@aol.com)
     3. 07:41 AM - Nigerian Fraud (Nico van Niekerk)
     4. 09:18 AM - Re: KOSH commander group camping in the CC area. (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
     5. 10:04 AM - Aux hydraulic pump relay (n414c)
     6. 10:27 AM - smoking heater (Randy Dettmer)
     7. 10:46 AM - Re: smoking heater (CloudCraft@aol.com)
     8. 10:56 AM - Re: smoking heater (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
     9. 11:02 AM - Re: smoking heater (Jerry R. Sprayberry)
    10. 12:23 PM - Re: Aux hydraulic pump relay (Chris Schuermann)
    11. 02:10 PM - Re: Aux hydraulic pump relay (Harry Merritt)
    12. 02:11 PM - Re: smoking heater (MOEMILLS@aol.com)
    13. 04:07 PM - Re: smoking heater (Nico van Niekerk)
    14. 05:35 PM - 7.0 lbs, 19 1/4 inches (Barry Hancock)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:41:07 AM PST US
    From: Frits Abbing <fritsabbing@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: 560 parts plane for sale
    --> Commander-List message posted by: Frits Abbing <fritsabbing@yahoo.com> Chris, OK, I'm interested to buy it. You will try to get the price down with the owner. If he accepts, we will discuss your needed items. Does he have some paperwork with it? Where is it located? Just to see if we can have a look and try to ship it to Fl. Frits


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    Time: 06:01:59 AM PST US
    From: JETPAUL@aol.com
    Subject: Fwd: 1952 Aero Commander 520
    --> Commander-List message posted by: JETPAUL@aol.com Hey Nico, this is especially for you. Isn't this one the scams that you warned us about? This guy is targeting aviation, and Twin Commanders if that is the case. This entire email was unsolicited, and from a cold internet ad. Tell me what you think? and can we track this guy down with anything he said? JetPaul From: <idrisjsph@yahoo.com> Subject: 1952 Aero Commander 520 Great news! Joseph Idris has responded to your aircraft ad on AeroHunter.com: " Dear Sir/Madam My name is JOSEPH IDRIS my father ALHAJI AHMED ADULLKARIM IDRIS is among the few others that were detained in the State Security Service safe house at Life Camp, Abuja by the present Administration of Olusegun Obasanjo in Nigeria over alleged conspiracy with the late General Sani Abacha for looting of the national treasury. No doubt, that my father was a very close associate to the late head of state General Sani Abacha from the time he was the Minister of Defense up to the time he died in 1998 and Throughout this period he was engaged with him in several monetary transactions that was successful and I must confess that my father made lots of money at that time in millions of dollars. But unfortunately for my father now the Obasanjo government have successfully investigated and discovered most of the deals my father executed with the late Head of state due and undue transactions, froze all his local accounts and accounts abroad, his luxurious estates and his sixteen luxury cars have being seized by the federal government and ever since things have not being the same for my father and the entire family. In one of my visit to my father in detention he disclosed to me that sometime in 1997 he was awarded a contract by the Nigeria Liquefied Natural Gas (NLNG), so he intelligently incorporated a Japanese based company, Kashima Oil Co., Ltd. to execute it, So, the funds will not be traceable to him, he said actual amount for the contract was $113Million but with the assistance of General Abacha, the approved amount was$166Million. So the difference of $53Million was what he kept in an escrow account. So I intended investigating to know if the federal government did discover the funds in the escrow account and couple with the assistance from some top officials of the bank the federal government did not discovered the funds. So presently, in collaboration with the top officials of the bank they are willing to assist me to move out the funds from there bank before the government will discover the funds for this is my fathers only hope and as his first son I owe him that obligation to protect is wealth which remains is only hope but though I need to take extra precautions due to the present situation. The advise from this officials is that for me to successfully acheive this I will need to a provide a foreign company that can be made the beneficiary of the funds before such amount and nature of funds can be easily processed and approved by the federal government. if you can assist me, I will not hesitate to furnish you with further information on how we intend to legalize and process the name you shall produce as the beneficiary of the funds for proper approval of payment of the funds by the federal government . I am willing to give you 25% of the total funds for your assistance 5% for any incidental expenses incurred at the course of the transaction and 70% for me. This is my fathers only hope and also the only hope for the entire family so your assistance will go a long way to in saving a dying family. I will await your positive response. Best regards, JOSEPH IDRIS N:B You can also send your response to josephidris@hotmail.com " =================================== 1952 Aero Commander 520 http://www.aerohunter.com/addetail.asp?adid=850 AeroHunter.com


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    Time: 07:41:33 AM PST US
    From: "Nico van Niekerk" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
    Subject: Nigerian Fraud
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Nico van Niekerk" <nico@cybersuperstore.com> Yup, that's exactly the one. It is called the Nigeria Scam or the 419 Advance Fee Fraud. They have raked in billions of dollars from greedy people who fall for the prospect of easy money, although totally illegal if it were not a scam. Don't bother going after them since they are syndicated and networked throughout the sub-Saharan Africa. Their bosses have the ability to strip your account bare through their banking contacts, so to even respond to their solicitations is already a bad idea. Exercising the delete key is about the only perfect antidote. Wouldn't mind waking him up early in the morning with a baseball bat in hand, though. Nico PS. Type in 'Nigeria fraud' into your Internet search engine if you want to read more about it. This particular site is from a self-confessed operator who claims to have taken in nearly a billion dollars. http://www.popsubculture.com/pop/bio_project/nigeria-fraud.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <JETPAUL@aol.com> Subject: Commander-List: Fwd: 1952 Aero Commander 520 > --> Commander-List message posted by: JETPAUL@aol.com > > Hey Nico, this is especially for you. Isn't this one the scams that you > warned us about? This guy is targeting aviation, and Twin Commanders if that > is the case. This entire email was unsolicited, and from a cold internet ad. > > Tell me what you think? and can we track this guy down with anything he said? > > JetPaul > > > From: <idrisjsph@yahoo.com> > To: <jetpaul@aol.com> > Subject: 1952 Aero Commander 520 > Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:20:34 -0500 > > Great news! > > Joseph Idris has responded to your aircraft ad on AeroHunter.com: > > " > > > Dear Sir/Madam > > My name is JOSEPH IDRIS my father ALHAJI AHMED ADULLKARIM IDRIS > is among the few others that were detained in the State Security Service > safe house at Life Camp, Abuja by the present Administration of Olusegun > Obasanjo in Nigeria over alleged conspiracy with the late General Sani > Abacha for looting of the national treasury. > > No doubt, that my father was a very close associate to the late head of > state General Sani Abacha from the time he was the Minister of Defense up > to the time he died in 1998 and Throughout this period he was engaged with > him in several monetary transactions that was successful and I must > confess that my father made lots of money at that time in millions of > dollars. > > But unfortunately for my father now the Obasanjo government have > successfully investigated and discovered most of the deals my father > executed with the late Head of state due and undue transactions, froze all > his local accounts and accounts abroad, his luxurious estates and his > sixteen luxury cars have being seized by the federal government and ever > since things have not being the same for my father and the entire family. > > In one of my visit to my father in detention he disclosed to me that > sometime in 1997 he was awarded a contract by the Nigeria Liquefied > Natural Gas (NLNG), so he intelligently incorporated a Japanese based > company, Kashima Oil Co., Ltd. to execute it, So, the funds will not be > traceable to him, he said actual amount for the contract was $113Million > but with the assistance of General Abacha, the approved amount > was$166Million. So the difference of $53Million was what he kept in an > escrow account. So I intended investigating to know if the federal > government did discover the funds in the escrow account and couple with > the assistance from some top officials of the bank the federal government > did not discovered the funds. > > So presently, in collaboration with the top officials of the bank they are > willing to assist me to move out the funds from there bank before the > government will discover the funds for this is my fathers only hope and as > his first son I owe him that obligation to protect is wealth which remains > is only hope but though I need to take extra precautions due to the > present situation. > > The advise from this officials is that for me to successfully acheive > this I will need to a provide a foreign company that can be made the > beneficiary of the funds before such amount and nature of funds can be > easily processed and approved by the federal government. > > if you can assist me, I will not hesitate to furnish you with further > information on how we intend to legalize and process the name you shall > produce as the beneficiary of the funds for proper approval of payment of > the funds by the federal government . > > I am willing to give you 25% of the total funds for your assistance 5% for > any incidental expenses incurred at the course of the transaction and 70% > for me. This is my fathers only hope and also the only hope for the > entire family so your assistance will go a long way to in saving a dying > family. I will await your positive response. > > Best regards, > > JOSEPH IDRIS > > N:B You can also send your response to josephidris@hotmail.com > > > " > > =================================== > > 1952 Aero Commander 520 > http://www.aerohunter.com/addetail.asp?adid=850 > > > AeroHunter.com > >


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    Time: 09:18:09 AM PST US
    From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" <rcdettmer@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: KOSH commander group camping in the CC area.
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" <rcdettmer@charter.net> Pass along your phone number and I will begin to compile a list of those interested. Hey Dennis, Count me in...I've been talking up the idea now for a couple of months. I 'll be making the trek from SBP (San Luis Obispo, CA) Probably have some empty seats too. Randy Dettmer 680F/N6253X 805 541 4864


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    Time: 10:04:02 AM PST US
    From: "n414c" <n414c@direcway.com>
    Subject: Aux hydraulic pump relay
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "n414c" <n414c@direcway.com> Part number 833038-1. is a relay between the pressure switch and the aux hydraulic pump. Anyone know the manufacturer or a source besides the TCAC dealerships? Milt


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    Time: 10:27:19 AM PST US
    From: Randy Dettmer <rcdettmer@charter.net>
    Subject: smoking heater
    --> Commander-List message posted by: Randy Dettmer <rcdettmer@charter.net> Had an unusual (and unnerving) experience the other day...departing from SBP (San Luis Obispo, CA) on the way to SVE (Susanville, CA), on firing up the heater, we experienced a fairly strong petroleum smell, and a small amount of smoke from behind the intrument panel. I was ready to immediately return to the airport, when the smoke cleared and the smell went away. Heater worked fine. So, continued the flight while paying VERY close attention to the heater. Everything was fine for the rest of the flight and return flight to SBP. I mentioned this to Morris Kernick, and he immediately suggested "hydraulic fluid" leaking into the heater ducts. After an inspection under the panel, I found fresh drops of hydraulic fluid on the heater plenum just above the co-pilot rudder pedals. Without pulling the instrument panel out, it was impossible to determine where the leak was coming from. My thoughts are that the most likely source of a leak would be the landing gear actuator/switch..?? Anybody had a similar experience, or have suggestions on where the hydraulic fluid might be coming from. It is a very small leak, but enough to accumulate in the heater plenum and cause the smell and smoke when the hot air enters the duct. Randy Dettmer 680F/N6253X


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    Time: 10:46:21 AM PST US
    From: CloudCraft@aol.com
    Subject: Re: smoking heater
    --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com In a message dated 12/14/02 10:27:43 Pacific Standard Time, rcdettmer@charter.net writes: > Anybody had a similar experience, or have suggestions on where the hydraulic > fluid might be coming from. It is a very small leak, but enough to > accumulate in the heater plenum and cause the smell and smoke when the hot > air enters the duct. > Randy, Also check the capillary line to the hydraulic pressure guage. Wing Commander Gordon


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    Time: 10:56:15 AM PST US
    From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" <rcdettmer@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: smoking heater
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" <rcdettmer@charter.net> Thanks Keith, I thought about that too. Will try to wiggle under the panel and check it out. Although, I thought that the most likely source would be from something that "moves" with seals etc...like the landing gear actuator. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: <CloudCraft@aol.com> Subject: Re: Commander-List: smoking heater > --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com > > In a message dated 12/14/02 10:27:43 Pacific Standard Time, > rcdettmer@charter.net writes: > > > > Anybody had a similar experience, or have suggestions on where the hydraulic > > fluid might be coming from. It is a very small leak, but enough to > > accumulate in the heater plenum and cause the smell and smoke when the hot > > air enters the duct. > > > > Randy, > > Also check the capillary line to the hydraulic pressure guage. > > Wing Commander Gordon > >


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    Time: 11:02:51 AM PST US
    From: "Jerry R. Sprayberry" <capnspray@direcway.com>
    Subject: Re: smoking heater
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jerry R. Sprayberry" <capnspray@direcway.com> Randy: when you get that problem solved, I have smoke coming out of the exhaust like black Soot, Hard to keep clean, Cloudcraft do you have any suggestions? or anyone Please. Jerry S. ----- Original Message ----- From: <CloudCraft@aol.com> Subject: Re: Commander-List: smoking heater > --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com > > In a message dated 12/14/02 10:27:43 Pacific Standard Time, > rcdettmer@charter.net writes: > > > > Anybody had a similar experience, or have suggestions on where the hydraulic > > fluid might be coming from. It is a very small leak, but enough to > > accumulate in the heater plenum and cause the smell and smoke when the hot > > air enters the duct. > > > > Randy, > > Also check the capillary line to the hydraulic pressure guage. > > Wing Commander Gordon > >


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    Time: 12:23:21 PM PST US
    From: Chris Schuermann <chris@skymaster.c2-tech.com>
    Subject: Re: Aux hydraulic pump relay
    --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <chris@skymaster.c2-tech.com> n414c wrote: > --> Commander-List message posted by: "n414c" <n414c@direcway.com> > > Part number 833038-1. is a relay between the pressure switch and the aux hydraulic pump. > Anyone know the manufacturer or a source besides the TCAC dealerships? Milt, Is tha the Commander part number? Doesn't look familiar to me. I've tried to find that number as a relay part number but no joy. Are there any markings or a logo on the relay or other numbers? chris


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    Time: 02:10:50 PM PST US
    From: "Harry Merritt" <avtec2@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Aux hydraulic pump relay
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Harry Merritt" <avtec2@bellsouth.net> Were the relay Located, i May have one Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: n414c To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 1:03 PM Subject: Commander-List: Aux hydraulic pump relay --> Commander-List message posted by: "n414c" <n414c@direcway.com> Part number 833038-1. is a relay between the pressure switch and the aux hydraulic pump. Anyone know the manufacturer or a source besides the TCAC dealerships? Milt


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    Time: 02:11:33 PM PST US
    From: MOEMILLS@aol.com
    Subject: Re: smoking heater
    --> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com Don't count out the hose going to the pressure switch! The one on my 680f(p) broke at night some time ago, and the skydrol pretty much trashed the cockpit interior foreword of the yolk tube tunnel. Moe Mills N680RR


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    Time: 04:07:45 PM PST US
    From: "Nico van Niekerk" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
    Subject: Re: smoking heater
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Nico van Niekerk" <nico@cybersuperstore.com> I cannot remember whether I wrote to the list about the high pressure line to the hydraulic guage that developed a crack one day in my 500 and it sprayed the cockpit with a fine, sweet smelling cloud of vaporized (atomized) hydraylic fluid. It also trashed the yoke-forward part of the cabin. I am too challenged to work on these things myself so that put some new life into the FBO at the time. I believe if I had smoked it would have given some rural farmer a meteor-like show in broad daylight. Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: <MOEMILLS@aol.com> Subject: Re: Commander-List: smoking heater > --> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com > > Don't count out the hose going to the pressure switch! The one on my 680f(p) > broke at night some time ago, and the skydrol pretty much trashed the cockpit > interior foreword of the yolk tube tunnel. > > Moe Mills > N680RR > >


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    Time: 05:35:01 PM PST US
    Subject: 7.0 lbs, 19 1/4 inches
    From: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
    --> Commander-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net> No, it's not a scale airplane, IT'S A BOY!!!!! Baby Boy Hancock (still haven't given him a name) arrived at 12:45 p.m. PST after a short 3 hour labor. Calling on my years as a catcher, I was able to receive without dropping and Deborah and baby are GREAT! We had the baby at home...what a blessing. I'm humbled beyond measure and only hope I can prepare him to follow Heavenly Father's plan for him. Barry




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