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1. 12:41 AM - Re: 560 parts plane for sale (Frits Abbing)
2. 06:01 AM - Fw: 1952 Aero Commander 520 (JETPAUL@aol.com)
3. 07:41 AM - Nigerian Fraud (Nico van Niekerk)
4. 09:18 AM - Re: KOSH commander group camping in the CC area. (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
5. 10:04 AM - Aux hydraulic pump relay (n414c)
6. 10:27 AM - smoking heater (Randy Dettmer)
7. 10:46 AM - Re: smoking heater (CloudCraft@aol.com)
8. 10:56 AM - Re: smoking heater (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
9. 11:02 AM - Re: smoking heater (Jerry R. Sprayberry)
10. 12:23 PM - Re: Aux hydraulic pump relay (Chris Schuermann)
11. 02:10 PM - Re: Aux hydraulic pump relay (Harry Merritt)
12. 02:11 PM - Re: smoking heater (MOEMILLS@aol.com)
13. 04:07 PM - Re: smoking heater (Nico van Niekerk)
14. 05:35 PM - 7.0 lbs, 19 1/4 inches (Barry Hancock)
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Subject: | Re: 560 parts plane for sale |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Frits Abbing <fritsabbing@yahoo.com>
Chris,
OK, I'm interested to buy it. You will try to get the
price down with the owner. If he accepts, we will
discuss your needed items.
Does he have some paperwork with it?
Where is it located? Just to see if we can have a look
and try to ship it to Fl.
Frits
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Subject: | Fwd: 1952 Aero Commander 520 |
--> Commander-List message posted by: JETPAUL@aol.com
Hey Nico, this is especially for you. Isn't this one the scams that you
warned us about? This guy is targeting aviation, and Twin Commanders if that
is the case. This entire email was unsolicited, and from a cold internet ad.
Tell me what you think? and can we track this guy down with anything he said?
JetPaul
From: <idrisjsph@yahoo.com>
Subject: 1952 Aero Commander 520
Great news!
Joseph Idris has responded to your aircraft ad on AeroHunter.com:
"
Dear Sir/Madam
My name is JOSEPH IDRIS my father ALHAJI AHMED ADULLKARIM IDRIS
is among the few others that were detained in the State Security Service
safe house at Life Camp, Abuja by the present Administration of Olusegun
Obasanjo in Nigeria over alleged conspiracy with the late General Sani
Abacha for looting of the national treasury.
No doubt, that my father was a very close associate to the late head of
state General Sani Abacha from the time he was the Minister of Defense up
to the time he died in 1998 and Throughout this period he was engaged with
him in several monetary transactions that was successful and I must
confess that my father made lots of money at that time in millions of
dollars.
But unfortunately for my father now the Obasanjo government have
successfully investigated and discovered most of the deals my father
executed with the late Head of state due and undue transactions, froze all
his local accounts and accounts abroad, his luxurious estates and his
sixteen luxury cars have being seized by the federal government and ever
since things have not being the same for my father and the entire family.
In one of my visit to my father in detention he disclosed to me that
sometime in 1997 he was awarded a contract by the Nigeria Liquefied
Natural Gas (NLNG), so he intelligently incorporated a Japanese based
company, Kashima Oil Co., Ltd. to execute it, So, the funds will not be
traceable to him, he said actual amount for the contract was $113Million
but with the assistance of General Abacha, the approved amount
was$166Million. So the difference of $53Million was what he kept in an
escrow account. So I intended investigating to know if the federal
government did discover the funds in the escrow account and couple with
the assistance from some top officials of the bank the federal government
did not discovered the funds.
So presently, in collaboration with the top officials of the bank they are
willing to assist me to move out the funds from there bank before the
government will discover the funds for this is my fathers only hope and as
his first son I owe him that obligation to protect is wealth which remains
is only hope but though I need to take extra precautions due to the
present situation.
The advise from this officials is that for me to successfully acheive
this I will need to a provide a foreign company that can be made the
beneficiary of the funds before such amount and nature of funds can be
easily processed and approved by the federal government.
if you can assist me, I will not hesitate to furnish you with further
information on how we intend to legalize and process the name you shall
produce as the beneficiary of the funds for proper approval of payment of
the funds by the federal government .
I am willing to give you 25% of the total funds for your assistance 5% for
any incidental expenses incurred at the course of the transaction and 70%
for me. This is my fathers only hope and also the only hope for the
entire family so your assistance will go a long way to in saving a dying
family. I will await your positive response.
Best regards,
JOSEPH IDRIS
N:B You can also send your response to josephidris@hotmail.com
"
===================================
1952 Aero Commander 520
http://www.aerohunter.com/addetail.asp?adid=850
AeroHunter.com
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Nico van Niekerk" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Yup, that's exactly the one. It is called the Nigeria Scam or the 419
Advance Fee Fraud. They have raked in billions of dollars from greedy people
who fall for the prospect of easy money, although totally illegal if it were
not a scam. Don't bother going after them since they are syndicated and
networked throughout the sub-Saharan Africa. Their bosses have the ability
to strip your account bare through their banking contacts, so to even
respond to their solicitations is already a bad idea.
Exercising the delete key is about the only perfect antidote. Wouldn't mind
waking him up early in the morning with a baseball bat in hand, though.
Nico
PS. Type in 'Nigeria fraud' into your Internet search engine if you want to
read more about it. This particular site is from a self-confessed operator
who claims to have taken in nearly a billion dollars.
http://www.popsubculture.com/pop/bio_project/nigeria-fraud.html
----- Original Message -----
From: <JETPAUL@aol.com>
Subject: Commander-List: Fwd: 1952 Aero Commander 520
> --> Commander-List message posted by: JETPAUL@aol.com
>
> Hey Nico, this is especially for you. Isn't this one the scams that you
> warned us about? This guy is targeting aviation, and Twin Commanders if
that
> is the case. This entire email was unsolicited, and from a cold internet
ad.
>
> Tell me what you think? and can we track this guy down with anything he
said?
>
> JetPaul
>
>
> From: <idrisjsph@yahoo.com>
> To: <jetpaul@aol.com>
> Subject: 1952 Aero Commander 520
> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:20:34 -0500
>
> Great news!
>
> Joseph Idris has responded to your aircraft ad on AeroHunter.com:
>
> "
>
>
> Dear Sir/Madam
>
> My name is JOSEPH IDRIS my father ALHAJI AHMED ADULLKARIM IDRIS
> is among the few others that were detained in the State Security Service
> safe house at Life Camp, Abuja by the present Administration of Olusegun
> Obasanjo in Nigeria over alleged conspiracy with the late General Sani
> Abacha for looting of the national treasury.
>
> No doubt, that my father was a very close associate to the late head of
> state General Sani Abacha from the time he was the Minister of Defense up
> to the time he died in 1998 and Throughout this period he was engaged with
> him in several monetary transactions that was successful and I must
> confess that my father made lots of money at that time in millions of
> dollars.
>
> But unfortunately for my father now the Obasanjo government have
> successfully investigated and discovered most of the deals my father
> executed with the late Head of state due and undue transactions, froze all
> his local accounts and accounts abroad, his luxurious estates and his
> sixteen luxury cars have being seized by the federal government and ever
> since things have not being the same for my father and the entire family.
>
> In one of my visit to my father in detention he disclosed to me that
> sometime in 1997 he was awarded a contract by the Nigeria Liquefied
> Natural Gas (NLNG), so he intelligently incorporated a Japanese based
> company, Kashima Oil Co., Ltd. to execute it, So, the funds will not be
> traceable to him, he said actual amount for the contract was $113Million
> but with the assistance of General Abacha, the approved amount
> was$166Million. So the difference of $53Million was what he kept in an
> escrow account. So I intended investigating to know if the federal
> government did discover the funds in the escrow account and couple with
> the assistance from some top officials of the bank the federal government
> did not discovered the funds.
>
> So presently, in collaboration with the top officials of the bank they are
> willing to assist me to move out the funds from there bank before the
> government will discover the funds for this is my fathers only hope and as
> his first son I owe him that obligation to protect is wealth which remains
> is only hope but though I need to take extra precautions due to the
> present situation.
>
> The advise from this officials is that for me to successfully acheive
> this I will need to a provide a foreign company that can be made the
> beneficiary of the funds before such amount and nature of funds can be
> easily processed and approved by the federal government.
>
> if you can assist me, I will not hesitate to furnish you with further
> information on how we intend to legalize and process the name you shall
> produce as the beneficiary of the funds for proper approval of payment of
> the funds by the federal government .
>
> I am willing to give you 25% of the total funds for your assistance 5% for
> any incidental expenses incurred at the course of the transaction and 70%
> for me. This is my fathers only hope and also the only hope for the
> entire family so your assistance will go a long way to in saving a dying
> family. I will await your positive response.
>
> Best regards,
>
> JOSEPH IDRIS
>
> N:B You can also send your response to josephidris@hotmail.com
>
>
> "
>
> ===================================
>
> 1952 Aero Commander 520
> http://www.aerohunter.com/addetail.asp?adid=850
>
>
> AeroHunter.com
>
>
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Subject: | Re: KOSH commander group camping in the CC area. |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" <rcdettmer@charter.net>
Pass along your phone number and I will begin to compile a list of those
interested.
Hey Dennis,
Count me in...I've been talking up the idea now for a couple of months. I
'll be making the trek from SBP (San Luis Obispo, CA) Probably have some
empty seats too.
Randy Dettmer
680F/N6253X
805 541 4864
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Subject: | Aux hydraulic pump relay |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "n414c" <n414c@direcway.com>
Part number 833038-1. is a relay between the pressure switch and the aux hydraulic
pump.
Anyone know the manufacturer or a source besides the TCAC dealerships?
Milt
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Randy Dettmer <rcdettmer@charter.net>
Had an unusual (and unnerving) experience the other day...departing from SBP
(San Luis Obispo, CA) on the way to SVE (Susanville, CA), on firing up the
heater, we experienced a fairly strong petroleum smell, and a small amount
of smoke from behind the intrument panel. I was ready to immediately return
to the airport, when the smoke cleared and the smell went away. Heater
worked fine. So, continued the flight while paying VERY close attention to
the heater. Everything was fine for the rest of the flight and return
flight to SBP.
I mentioned this to Morris Kernick, and he immediately suggested "hydraulic
fluid" leaking into the heater ducts. After an inspection under the panel,
I found fresh drops of hydraulic fluid on the heater plenum just above the
co-pilot rudder pedals. Without pulling the instrument panel out, it was
impossible to determine where the leak was coming from. My thoughts are
that the most likely source of a leak would be the landing gear
actuator/switch..??
Anybody had a similar experience, or have suggestions on where the hydraulic
fluid might be coming from. It is a very small leak, but enough to
accumulate in the heater plenum and cause the smell and smoke when the hot
air enters the duct.
Randy Dettmer
680F/N6253X
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Subject: | Re: smoking heater |
--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 12/14/02 10:27:43 Pacific Standard Time,
rcdettmer@charter.net writes:
> Anybody had a similar experience, or have suggestions on where the hydraulic
> fluid might be coming from. It is a very small leak, but enough to
> accumulate in the heater plenum and cause the smell and smoke when the hot
> air enters the duct.
>
Randy,
Also check the capillary line to the hydraulic pressure guage.
Wing Commander Gordon
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Subject: | Re: smoking heater |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" <rcdettmer@charter.net>
Thanks Keith,
I thought about that too. Will try to wiggle under the panel and check it
out. Although, I thought that the most likely source would be from
something that "moves" with seals etc...like the landing gear actuator.
Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: <CloudCraft@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: smoking heater
> --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 12/14/02 10:27:43 Pacific Standard Time,
> rcdettmer@charter.net writes:
>
>
> > Anybody had a similar experience, or have suggestions on where the
hydraulic
> > fluid might be coming from. It is a very small leak, but enough to
> > accumulate in the heater plenum and cause the smell and smoke when the
hot
> > air enters the duct.
> >
>
> Randy,
>
> Also check the capillary line to the hydraulic pressure guage.
>
> Wing Commander Gordon
>
>
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Subject: | Re: smoking heater |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jerry R. Sprayberry" <capnspray@direcway.com>
Randy: when you get that problem solved, I have smoke coming out of the
exhaust like black Soot, Hard to keep clean, Cloudcraft do you have any
suggestions? or anyone Please.
Jerry S.
----- Original Message -----
From: <CloudCraft@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: smoking heater
> --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 12/14/02 10:27:43 Pacific Standard Time,
> rcdettmer@charter.net writes:
>
>
> > Anybody had a similar experience, or have suggestions on where the
hydraulic
> > fluid might be coming from. It is a very small leak, but enough to
> > accumulate in the heater plenum and cause the smell and smoke when the
hot
> > air enters the duct.
> >
>
> Randy,
>
> Also check the capillary line to the hydraulic pressure guage.
>
> Wing Commander Gordon
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Aux hydraulic pump relay |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <chris@skymaster.c2-tech.com>
n414c wrote:
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "n414c" <n414c@direcway.com>
>
> Part number 833038-1. is a relay between the pressure switch and the aux hydraulic
pump.
> Anyone know the manufacturer or a source besides the TCAC dealerships?
Milt,
Is tha the Commander part number? Doesn't look familiar to me. I've
tried to find that number as a relay part number but no joy. Are there
any markings or a logo on the relay or other numbers?
chris
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Subject: | Re: Aux hydraulic pump relay |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Harry Merritt" <avtec2@bellsouth.net>
Were the relay Located, i May have one
Harry
----- Original Message -----
From: n414c
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 1:03 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Aux hydraulic pump relay
--> Commander-List message posted by: "n414c" <n414c@direcway.com>
Part number 833038-1. is a relay between the pressure switch and the aux hydraulic
pump.
Anyone know the manufacturer or a source besides the TCAC dealerships?
Milt
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Subject: | Re: smoking heater |
--> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com
Don't count out the hose going to the pressure switch! The one on my 680f(p)
broke at night some time ago, and the skydrol pretty much trashed the cockpit
interior foreword of the yolk tube tunnel.
Moe Mills
N680RR
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Subject: | Re: smoking heater |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Nico van Niekerk" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
I cannot remember whether I wrote to the list about the high pressure line
to the hydraulic guage that developed a crack one day in my 500 and it
sprayed the cockpit with a fine, sweet smelling cloud of vaporized
(atomized) hydraylic fluid. It also trashed the yoke-forward part of the
cabin. I am too challenged to work on these things myself so that put some
new life into the FBO at the time.
I believe if I had smoked it would have given some rural farmer a
meteor-like show in broad daylight.
Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: <MOEMILLS@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: smoking heater
> --> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com
>
> Don't count out the hose going to the pressure switch! The one on my
680f(p)
> broke at night some time ago, and the skydrol pretty much trashed the
cockpit
> interior foreword of the yolk tube tunnel.
>
> Moe Mills
> N680RR
>
>
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Subject: | 7.0 lbs, 19 1/4 inches |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
No, it's not a scale airplane, IT'S A BOY!!!!! Baby Boy Hancock (still
haven't given him a name) arrived at 12:45 p.m. PST after a short 3 hour
labor. Calling on my years as a catcher, I was able to receive without
dropping and Deborah and baby are GREAT! We had the baby at home...what
a blessing.
I'm humbled beyond measure and only hope I can prepare him to follow
Heavenly Father's plan for him.
Barry
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