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1. 03:54 PM - Hello Outerspace (Jerry R. Sprayberry)
2. 04:08 PM - Re: Hello Outerspace (Bow)
3. 04:33 PM - Re: Hello Outerspace (Jerry R. Sprayberry)
4. 06:36 PM - 680FP (Bow)
5. 06:43 PM - Re: 680FP (Chris Schuermann)
6. 07:52 PM - TECH Re: 680FP (CloudCraft@aol.com)
7. 08:30 PM - Re: Hello Outerspace (Nico van Niekerk)
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| Subject: | Hello Outerspace |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jerry R. Sprayberry" <capnspray@direcway.com>
Hello out there: Is there anyone at home? Anybody.
Thank you JRS
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| Subject: | Re: Hello Outerspace |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" <w.bow@att.net>
yep, just not home.
bilbo
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From: "Jerry R. Sprayberry" <capnspray@direcway.com>
Subject: Commander-List: Hello Outerspace
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jerry R. Sprayberry"
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> Hello out there: Is there anyone at home? Anybody.
> Thank you JRS
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| Subject: | Re: Hello Outerspace |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jerry R. Sprayberry" <capnspray@direcway.com>
Thanks BOW: I haven't had a post since last night, Is it just this quiet
before Christmas? I guess everyone is out shopping HUH: JRS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bow" <w.bow@att.net>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Hello Outerspace
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" <w.bow@att.net>
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> yep, just not home.
> bilbo
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry R. Sprayberry" <capnspray@direcway.com>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Commander-List: Hello Outerspace
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> > Hello out there: Is there anyone at home? Anybody.
> > Thank you JRS
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" <w.bow@att.net>
How accurate are the numbers on the Commander website for the 680FP.
Specifically, load and altitude capability. Will it make it to FL 220 with
4 people onboard and maintain a breathable cabin? I'm asking for a DOE
friend and not for me(I'm to cheap)
NO BS GUYS JUST THE FACTS.
bilbo
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <chris@skymaster.c2-tech.com>
Bow wrote:
> Will it make it to FL 220 with 4 people onboard and maintain a breathable cabin?
Bow,
From everything I've been told, virtually no older Commander seems to
meet book specs for presurization. I asked this question of quite a few
people back when I was looking to get an FP and got the same answer from
everyone: it's possible, but takes substantial effort to get everything
sealed "like new".
I know that isn't "facts", just feedback.
Chris
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--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 12/21/02 18:36:38 Pacific Standard Time, w.bow@att.net
writes:
> Will it make it to FL 220 with
> 4 people onboard and maintain a breathable cabin? I'm asking for a DOE
> friend and not for me(I'm to cheap)
>
> NO BS GUYS JUST THE FACTS.
>
OK, Bilbo. I was going to BS you, but since you put a stop to that ....
I'd never dream of taking an FP or FLP above the teens. First off, the
design "delta P" is not suitable for that high IN MY OPINION. (I just spent
half an hour ripping my house apart looking for a 'cabin altitude at flight
level graph' and couldn't find it.)
This is not fact, but truth: I don't think there is an FP/FLP in operation
that makes max delta P anyway. Too many cabin leaks, too many weak cabin
pressure controllers.
Getting to FL220 may be do-able, but I observe most of the IGSO-540s going
critical in the high teens ... there is probably enough power left to scratch
up to Flight Level. If the blowers are good and you're not in ISA +15, they
should get up there ... but I just haven't seen a set of really strong
blowers in years.
Now. On to fuel flow gauges. Moe and everyone, if you can get by with
cleaning the transducers, great! If that doesn't do it, I'll offer up this
info from past trauma:
The Bendix fuel flow gauge (on the IGSO-540 equipped Commanders) have an
internal inverter. The transducers (both of 'em) must be matched to the fuel
flow gauge. If you're going to send them out, send both WITH the gauge to
have them all matched.
Next, (and this is good!) The bench that is used to calibrate this set-up
uses jet fuel. THERE IS A CONVERSION FACTOR that the overhaul station has to
use to convert from jet-a readings to AvGas readings.
If they forget to use this conversion factor, your gauges will come home all
wrong.
Be sure to remind the shop that they're doing an AvGas calibration!!!
And now you want to know the name of a shop that does this, right? I was
afraid you'd ask ... Downtown Airpark sent mine out to somewhere in Wichita
or Kansas City. I'll try to find out who that was, if you need it.
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Re: Hello Outerspace |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Nico van Niekerk" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
I'm here too. Just home. Working throug the holidays.
Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry R. Sprayberry" <capnspray@direcway.com>
Subject: Commander-List: Hello Outerspace
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jerry R. Sprayberry"
<capnspray@direcway.com>
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> Hello out there: Is there anyone at home? Anybody.
> Thank you JRS
>
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