---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 12/27/02: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:50 PM - Re: Twin Commander Logo (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 2. 04:42 PM - Re: Twin Commander Logo (Bill Williams) 3. 04:46 PM - Re: Twin Commander Logo (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 4. 04:54 PM - Re: Twin Commander Logo (MOEMILLS@aol.com) 5. 04:54 PM - Minimum Equipment List (MEL) (Bill Williams) 6. 04:56 PM - Re: Minimum Equipment List (MEL) (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 7. 04:58 PM - Re: Minimum Equipment List (MEL) (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 8. 05:10 PM - Re: Minimum Equipment List (MEL) (MOEMILLS@aol.com) 9. 05:24 PM - Re: Minimum Equipment List (MEL) (Bill Williams) 10. 08:37 PM - Re: Minimum Equipment List (MEL) (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 11. 08:40 PM - Re: Minimum Equipment List (MEL) (Nico van Niekerk) 12. 08:44 PM - WILL FLY SOON (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 13. 08:49 PM - SHRIKE 582AC (YOURTCFG@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:50:02 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Twin Commander Logo --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com HI MOE. I called Gladys at TCAC today to see if I could talk her out of the artwork you need. She needed to ask her boss, Jeff Cousins, who is out for a few days. When I hear from her, I'll contact you. HAPPY NEW YEAR!! jb ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:42:57 PM PST US From: "Bill Williams" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Twin Commander Logo --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Williams" Does anyone know of an MEL for 560A. Bill Williams AirMatrix 17705 49th Place N.E., Hangar D Arlington, WA 98223-7898 tel: 360-435-7343 fax: 360-435-8193 billw@air-matrix.com www.air-matrix.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:46:43 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Twin Commander Logo --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 12/27/02 4:43:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, billw@air-matrix.com writes: > Does anyone know of an MEL for 560A. > You mean an instructor?? or just a pilot. I have 800 hr in a 560A jb ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:12 PM PST US From: MOEMILLS@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Twin Commander Logo --> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com Thank you very much. Moe ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:59 PM PST US From: "Bill Williams" Subject: Commander-List: Minimum Equipment List (MEL) --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Williams" We are looking for a minimum equipment list (MEL) for the Aero Commander 560A. Bill Williams AirMatrix 17705 49th Place N.E., Hangar D Arlington, WA 98223-7898 tel: 360-435-7343 fax: 360-435-8193 billw@air-matrix.com www.air-matrix.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:59 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Minimum Equipment List (MEL) --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 12/27/02 4:55:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, billw@air-matrix.com writes: > We are looking for a minimum equipment list (MEL) for the Aero Commander > 560A. OH!! ;-) jb ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:58:20 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Minimum Equipment List (MEL) --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 12/27/02 4:55:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, billw@air-matrix.com writes: > We are looking for a minimum equipment list (MEL) for the Aero Commander > 560A. I believe, since it is a piston airplane, it would be the one found in the FARs, part..........?? 91?? jb ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:46 PM PST US From: MOEMILLS@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Minimum Equipment List (MEL) --> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com The FAA has allowed me to make my own for both a Cessna 337 and my 680F(p). I suggest that you try this route. If you want I can send you a copy of both the IFR and VFR MEL for the 680F(p). The IFR MEL list simply states that all equipment on the airplane must be operational, while the VFR list gives quite a bit of latitude. Moe Mills N680RR ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:24:55 PM PST US From: "Bill Williams" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Minimum Equipment List (MEL) --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Williams" Moe: I have the FAA approved MEL for GULFSTREAM AEROSPACE CORPORATION COMMANDER MODELS 680T, 680V, 680W 681, 690, 690A, 690B 690C, 690D, 695, 695A, 695B Bill Williams AirMatrix 17705 49th Place N.E., Hangar D Arlington, WA 98223-7898 tel: 360-435-7343 fax: 360-435-8193 billw@air-matrix.com www.air-matrix.com ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:37:23 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Minimum Equipment List (MEL) --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 12/27/02 5:25:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, billw@air-matrix.com writes: > Moe: > I have the FAA approved MEL for GULFSTREAM AEROSPACE CORPORATION > COMMANDER MODELS 680T, 680V, 680W 681, 690, 690A, 690B 690C, 690D, 695, > 695A, 695B > That is because turbine airplanes require a MEL or MMEL to be operated in the "real world" since they are specifically exempted form 91.205 in 91.213, D, (1) (i), meaning that short of an approved MMEL or ferry permit, every stinking light bulb must work every time, including the one on the coffee warmer. A piston airplane can revert to 91.205 parigraph (b) - (f) This is the MEL for a part 91, piston airplane. Part 135 airplanes MEL is found in 135.159, 161, 163. Hope this helps. jb ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:40:58 PM PST US From: "Nico van Niekerk" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Minimum Equipment List (MEL) --> Commander-List message posted by: "Nico van Niekerk" Eager to fly, huh, jb? Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Commander-List: Minimum Equipment List (MEL) > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > > In a message dated 12/27/02 4:55:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, > billw@air-matrix.com writes: > > > We are looking for a minimum equipment list (MEL) for the Aero Commander > > 560A. > > OH!! ;-) jb > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:21 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: WILL FLY SOON --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 12/27/02 8:41:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, nico@cybersuperstore.com writes: > Eager to fly, huh, jb? > Nico YEP, Been on the ground two weeks!! I did get a short flight after the hose repair, but not much. Maybe tomorrow?? jb ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:49:00 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: SHRIKE 582AC --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com HI KIDS. I took a look and some pix of a nice older Shrike for TCFG member Jimmy Rodreguis (sp) this week. It is parked across the river and I think Morris made an offer on it in his behalf?? It is a nice clean example with a NEW SPAR!! It would be great to have another member become an owner. Jimmy was at the flyin this year and lives in San Juan, PR. (Maybe I can ferry it down there, Yippee!!) jb