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1. 11:11 AM - 'How to Ruin American Enterprise' (Robert Bullock)
2. 12:18 PM - Re: Minimum Equipment List (MEL) (Bruce Campbell)
3. 09:48 PM - Re: Minimum Equipment List (MEL) (Kelly Piper)
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| Subject: | 'How to Ruin American Enterprise' |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Robert Bullock <rcbullock@cox.net>
'How to Ruin American Enterprise'
All the 'merkins need to read this. No jingoism here, tho that's the fashion.
http://biz.yahoo.com/fo/021220/how_to_ruin_american_enterprise_3.html
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| Subject: | Re: Minimum Equipment List (MEL) |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell" <baruch@intelligentflight.com>
There is a Master MEL for the 560. Its on the FAA web site.
http://www1.faa.gov/fsdo/btr/MMELsa.htm
look under G500
Bruce Campbell
n4186b ac52
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly Piper" <kellyp@air-matrix.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Minimum Equipment List (MEL)
> --> Commander-List message posted by: Kelly Piper <kellyp@air-matrix.com>
>
> Thanks for the info. What we are doing is modifying our part 135 for our
560A
> from "no MEL" meaning as you said- every stinkin thing must be working, to
a
> more manageable subset that won't ground us. Canada also requires an MEL
for
> operations in their airspace (part 135).
>
> The FAA just told us that unless ther is a MMEL (master MEL) for the 5xx
series
> that it would be pretty much impossible to get one approved. Does that
seem to
> be the case?
>
> Thanks again for your input.
>
> KP
>
> Quoting YOURTCFG@aol.com:
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
> >
> > In a message dated 12/27/02 5:25:16 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> > billw@air-matrix.com writes:
> >
> > > Moe:
> > > I have the FAA approved MEL for GULFSTREAM AEROSPACE CORPORATION
> > > COMMANDER MODELS 680T, 680V, 680W 681, 690, 690A, 690B 690C, 690D,
> > 695,
> > > 695A, 695B
> > >
> >
> > That is because turbine airplanes require a MEL or MMEL to be operated
> > in the
> > "real world" since they are specifically exempted form 91.205 in 91.213,
> > D,
> > (1) (i), meaning that short of an approved MMEL or ferry permit, every
> >
> > stinking light bulb must work every time, including the one on the
> > coffee
> > warmer.
> > A piston airplane can revert to 91.205 parigraph (b) - (f)
> > This is
> > the MEL for a part 91, piston airplane. Part 135 airplanes MEL is found
> > in
> > 135.159, 161, 163.
> > Hope this helps. jb
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Kelly Piper
> AirMatrix
> 17705 49th Place NE, Hangar D
> Arlington, WA 98223
> Tel: 360-435-7343
> Mob: 425-231-2311
> kellyp@air-matrix.com
> www.air-matrix.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Minimum Equipment List (MEL) |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Kelly Piper <kellyp@air-matrix.com>
Thanks. That appears to be exactly what we need. I had looked there before
but the cryptic designation (G500) threw me.
Kelly Piper
N2732B
Quoting Bruce Campbell <baruch@intelligentflight.com>:
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell"
> <baruch@intelligentflight.com>
>
> There is a Master MEL for the 560. Its on the FAA web site.
>
> http://www1.faa.gov/fsdo/btr/MMELsa.htm
>
> look under G500
>
>
> Bruce Campbell
> n4186b ac52
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kelly Piper" <kellyp@air-matrix.com>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Minimum Equipment List (MEL)
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: Kelly Piper
> <kellyp@air-matrix.com>
> >
> > Thanks for the info. What we are doing is modifying our part 135 for
> our
> 560A
> > from "no MEL" meaning as you said- every stinkin thing must be
> working, to
> a
> > more manageable subset that won't ground us. Canada also requires an
> MEL
> for
> > operations in their airspace (part 135).
> >
> > The FAA just told us that unless ther is a MMEL (master MEL) for the
> 5xx
> series
> > that it would be pretty much impossible to get one approved. Does
> that
> seem to
> > be the case?
> >
> > Thanks again for your input.
> >
> > KP
> >
> > Quoting YOURTCFG@aol.com:
> >
> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
> > >
> > > In a message dated 12/27/02 5:25:16 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> > > billw@air-matrix.com writes:
> > >
> > > > Moe:
> > > > I have the FAA approved MEL for GULFSTREAM AEROSPACE CORPORATION
> > > > COMMANDER MODELS 680T, 680V, 680W 681, 690, 690A, 690B 690C,
> 690D,
> > > 695,
> > > > 695A, 695B
> > > >
> > >
> > > That is because turbine airplanes require a MEL or MMEL to be
> operated
> > > in the
> > > "real world" since they are specifically exempted form 91.205 in
> 91.213,
> > > D,
> > > (1) (i), meaning that short of an approved MMEL or ferry permit,
> every
> > >
> > > stinking light bulb must work every time, including the one on the
> > > coffee
> > > warmer.
> > > A piston airplane can revert to 91.205 parigraph (b) -
> (f)
> > > This is
> > > the MEL for a part 91, piston airplane. Part 135 airplanes MEL is
> found
> > > in
> > > 135.159, 161, 163.
> > > Hope this helps. jb
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Kelly Piper
> > AirMatrix
> > 17705 49th Place NE, Hangar D
> > Arlington, WA 98223
> > Tel: 360-435-7343
> > Mob: 425-231-2311
> > kellyp@air-matrix.com
> > www.air-matrix.com
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
Kelly Piper
AirMatrix
17705 49th Place NE, Hangar D
Arlington, WA 98223
Tel: 360-435-7343
Mob: 425-231-2311
kellyp@air-matrix.com
www.air-matrix.com
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