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1. 12:32 AM - Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR!! (Russell Legg)
2. 05:58 AM - Great flight(s) (n414c)
3. 08:53 AM - Re: Re: Commander-Chat List: At Last! (Bow)
4. 08:58 AM - Re: Happy New Year (Bow)
5. 09:00 AM - Aircraft painting (Stephen Crow)
6. 09:01 AM - Re: Re: Commander-Chat List: At Last! (Bow)
7. 09:32 AM - Lunch (Bow)
8. 09:59 AM - Re: Lunch (Jim Addington)
9. 10:17 AM - Re: Lunch (Buddy Windham)
10. 10:21 AM - chat/ Re: Great flight(s) (CloudCraft@aol.com)
11. 10:24 AM - Re: Great flight(s) (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
12. 10:33 AM - Re: Lunch (Jim Addington)
13. 10:33 AM - Re: Lunch (Cy Galley)
14. 10:58 AM - Re: Lunch (Bow)
15. 11:00 AM - Re: Lunch (Bow)
16. 01:27 PM - Re: Re: Commander-Chat List: At Last! (Chris Schuermann)
17. 02:01 PM - aircraft painting (Stephen Crow)
18. 02:45 PM - Re: Great flight(s) (Russell Legg)
19. 02:51 PM - Re: Great flight(s) (Russell Legg)
20. 02:55 PM - Re: Lunch (Russell Legg)
21. 06:31 PM - Re: Great flight(s) (Nico van Niekerk)
22. 06:50 PM - chat/ Re: Great flight(s) (James Lyle)
23. 07:59 PM - ebay stuff (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR!! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Russell Legg <rlegg@austarnet.com.au>
The very best of New Year Wishes from here in OZ!!
Cheers to all
Russell
On 1/1/03 11:56 AM, "YOURTCFG@aol.com" <YOURTCFG@aol.com> wrote:
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
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> MAY THE BEST DAY OF 2002 BE THE WORST DAY OF 2003. GOD BLESS AMERICA!! jb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "n414c" <n414c@direcway.com>
Little Crunk and I planned on leaving to pickup Jim Lyle in Atlanta yesterday
AM and give home a ride to Delaware Ohio to pickup his newly purchased 520 so
little Crunk could give him a checkout and fly it back to Augusta Ga.
The day started badly. At 3AM a line of thunderstorms crossed the house, beat us
up pretty badly and took out the power. Not to be stopped we did our flight
planning at 5AM by the light of an oil lamp.
The line of storms was solid between Miss. and Georgia so Jim hopped a commercial
flight to Cincinnati. Crunk and I headed out in 414C to meet him.
IMC at 300' and stayed that way at 17,000' all the way to CVG, 3 hours in the mush,
ILS 36L into CVG 1mile an 600'
Picked Jim up and on to Delaware Ohio in similar conditions with a GPS 28 approach
to a slick runway where little Crunk greased it on. (actually saw snow for
the first time in several years. Sure is cold up north.
Jims 520 is pristine. The prior owner appears to have down all the things that
make the first year of ownership a pain. Jim plans on coming to Dayton next year.
(Jimbob get a plaque ready).
Jim and Don then headed to Charleston WV and then Atlanta in less than nice weather
and made it in safely.
Gail and I headed back to Miss. once again solid IMC dodging embedded thunderstorms
and fighting the headwind from hell. 4hrs 30min later an ILS to minimums
into MCB
and tied her down in a squall.
8hrs on the gauges without an autopilot. Ain't aerocommanders great.
Little Crunk is now on his way to Danbury Connecticut to pickup and deliver another
aircraft to its new owner somewhere out west. Hope its heater works as he
figures 8-10 hrs flight time.
Milt
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| Subject: | Re: Commander-Chat List: At Last! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" <w.bow@att.net>
> Introduced in 1949. They were called "venti-ports" but generally
> refered to as "mouseholes".
> 3 holes on Supers and 4 on Roadmasters if memory serves, but I seem to
> recall seeing a Super Sedanette with 4...
>
> Chris
I should have known YOU would get it. You didn't answer the second question
though.
bilbo
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| Subject: | Re: Happy New Year |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" <w.bow@att.net>
> Hey Randy. I read about you in a magazine somewhere. I cannot remember
> exactly, but I will dig it up.
> Nico
Is Randy famous?
bilbo
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| Subject: | Aircraft painting |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Stephen Crow <k4cpx@arrl.net>
Here's a note off another chat line...worth thinking about..it seems to me./ Steve
C.
=====================
I haven't started painting my plane yet, but I thought I'd pass this info
along. You can save big bucks by buying industrial Imron on-line
instead of automotive Imron from your local paint dealer. I got a
quote of $50/gallon from Keytone Industrial Paints
(http://www.ketoneindustrial.com/) The only difference between the
industrial paint and the auto paint is the color chart. No pearls or
metal flakes and you'll have to make do with "White" instead of "Polar
Bear" or some such.
Keytone told me that the only reason auto paints are so expensive is
the "research" that goes into all those weird colors.
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| Subject: | Re: Commander-Chat List: At Last! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" <w.bow@att.net>
> They are CRUISALATOR VENTIPORTS. They were designed to do nothing but they
> really look studly
> Milt
Wooo, Chris,
Has Milt found their "Full Name"? He did get their purpose in life correct.
bilbo
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" <w.bow@att.net>
Attention all Southern Commander People, it's time to eat for good luck!!
Black-eyed peas, Cornbread and a piece of pork. HAPPY NEW YEAR!
bilbo
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
Thanks for the reminder. My wife said that yesterday but with my long term
memory I had forgotten.
-
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Buddy Windham <bw_cycon@yahoo.com>
A proud southern tradition. My family does it every
year here in Western Michigan. We tried to bring the
tradition to our Yankee friends but they thing we're
crazy. But what do you think about people calling a
hamburger a hamburg and people who put butter on every
sandwich and call cucumbers cukes!No wonder they lost
the civil war. A proud Texan.
--- Bow <w.bow@att.net> wrote:
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow"
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> Attention all Southern Commander People, it's time
> to eat for good luck!!
>
> Black-eyed peas, Cornbread and a piece of pork.
> HAPPY NEW YEAR!
>
> bilbo
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Cycon Enterprises, Inc.
General Contractors/Construction Management/Design Build
0-608 Quincy Street S.W.
Grandville, Michigan 49418
616 896-6488 office
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| Subject: | Re: Great flight(s) |
--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 01/01/03 05:59:35 Pacific Standard Time,
n414c@direcway.com writes:
> 4hrs 30min later an ILS to minimums into MCB
>
Don't you just hate having to do an ILS to minimums after 4+30 with a 4:00
bladder?
That was a nice bunch of flying, Dr. Milt, and quite kind of ya'll to help
out a new Commander owner.
Thanks, on behalf of all of us.
Flight planning via oil lamp? Hmmm. I take it they had the smudge pots
light to substitute for approach lights when you got home.
Happy New Year everyone!
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Re: Great flight(s) |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
GREAT STORY MILT, Thanks for sharing . I cant think of a better airplane or
pilot to have don it with. jb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
I like to have never gotten a milk shake when I got to New Hampsher when I
was in the Air Force. It took me for ever to teach them to drink ice tea in
the winter.
Jim
N444BD
Denton, Texas
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Buddy
Windham
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Lunch
--> Commander-List message posted by: Buddy Windham <bw_cycon@yahoo.com>
A proud southern tradition. My family does it every
year here in Western Michigan. We tried to bring the
tradition to our Yankee friends but they thing we're
crazy. But what do you think about people calling a
hamburger a hamburg and people who put butter on every
sandwich and call cucumbers cukes!No wonder they lost
the civil war. A proud Texan.
--- Bow <w.bow@att.net> wrote:
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow"
> <w.bow@att.net>
>
> Attention all Southern Commander People, it's time
> to eat for good luck!!
>
> Black-eyed peas, Cornbread and a piece of pork.
> HAPPY NEW YEAR!
>
> bilbo
>
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Buddy Windham
Cycon Enterprises, Inc.
General Contractors/Construction Management/Design Build
0-608 Quincy Street S.W.
Grandville, Michigan 49418
616 896-6488 office
616 896-6490 fax
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Forgot the fried oakra! Truly the best of the best.
Cy Galley - Webmaster www.qcbc.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bow" <w.bow@att.net>
Subject: Commander-List: Lunch
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" <w.bow@att.net>
>
> Attention all Southern Commander People, it's time to eat for good luck!!
>
> Black-eyed peas, Cornbread and a piece of pork. HAPPY NEW YEAR!
>
> bilbo
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" <w.bow@att.net>
>>No wonder they lost the civil war.
>>A proud Texan.
Buddy,
I assume you ae speaking of the War of Northern Agression??
bilbo
(Great, great, grandson of General Johnston (Texas))
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" <w.bow@att.net>
>
> Forgot the fried oakra! Truly the best of the best.
>
>
> Cy Galley - Webmaster www.qcbc.org
And "Fried Green Tomaters"
bilbo
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| Subject: | Re: Commander-Chat List: At Last! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <chris@skymaster.c2-tech.com>
Bow wrote:
>>"venti-ports"
> I should have known YOU would get it. You didn't answer the second question
> though.
I don't think they really do anything, but given the logic of the day,
I'd guess they were either supposed to enhance cooling or decrease
aerodynamic drag... What's the actual scoop? Frankly, I've always been
most impressed by the hood mechanism allowing it to open in either
direction :-)
Chris
PS: I have a '47 Roadmaster "project" over in my fathers hangar.
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| Subject: | aircraft painting |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Stephen Crow <k4cpx@arrl.net>
I think I'll recind my suggestion......Steve C.
================
I've got some bad news for you, Imron Industrial coatings are not the same
product as the Auto Refinish Imron Paints. I've used both of them numerous
times. The Industrial Coatings are designed to be applied in thicker films
with durability as the prime consideration. A lot of offshore oil platform
equipment is painted with it. It uses different activators at different
ratios and doesn't have near the gloss of automotive Imron. I've used it to
paint trailers with good results but wouldn't even consider its use on my
plane.
Esten Spears, RV8A, 80922, Leeward Air Ranch, Ocala, FL.
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| Subject: | Re: Great flight(s) |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Russell Legg <rlegg@austarnet.com.au>
Hey Milt,
Thanks for sharing your latest adventures with 'lil Crunk in white-out!!
Great to hear another 520 has joined the ranks...Well done!
Cheers and ciders
Russell
On 2/1/03 12:57 AM, "n414c" <n414c@direcway.com> wrote:
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "n414c" <n414c@direcway.com>
>
> Little Crunk and I planned on leaving to pickup Jim Lyle in Atlanta yesterday
> AM and give home a ride to Delaware Ohio to pickup his newly purchased 520 so
> little Crunk could give him a checkout and fly it back to Augusta Ga.
>
>
> The day started badly. At 3AM a line of thunderstorms crossed the house, beat
> us up pretty badly and took out the power. Not to be stopped we did our flight
> planning at 5AM by the light of an oil lamp.
>
> The line of storms was solid between Miss. and Georgia so Jim hopped a
> commercial flight to Cincinnati. Crunk and I headed out in 414C to meet him.
>
> IMC at 300' and stayed that way at 17,000' all the way to CVG, 3 hours in the
> mush, ILS 36L into CVG 1mile an 600'
>
> Picked Jim up and on to Delaware Ohio in similar conditions with a GPS 28
> approach to a slick runway where little Crunk greased it on. (actually saw
> snow for the first time in several years. Sure is cold up north.
>
> Jims 520 is pristine. The prior owner appears to have down all the things that
> make the first year of ownership a pain. Jim plans on coming to Dayton next
> year. (Jimbob get a plaque ready).
>
> Jim and Don then headed to Charleston WV and then Atlanta in less than nice
> weather and made it in safely.
>
> Gail and I headed back to Miss. once again solid IMC dodging embedded
> thunderstorms and fighting the headwind from hell. 4hrs 30min later an ILS to
> minimums into MCB
> and tied her down in a squall.
>
> 8hrs on the gauges without an autopilot. Ain't aerocommanders great.
>
> Little Crunk is now on his way to Danbury Connecticut to pickup and deliver
> another aircraft to its new owner somewhere out west. Hope its heater works as
> he figures 8-10 hrs flight time.
> Milt
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Great flight(s) |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Russell Legg <rlegg@austarnet.com.au>
Now Milt,
....Double wide??? Please explain to this Ozzie!?
Cheers and ciders
Russell
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Russell Legg <rlegg@austarnet.com.au>
Hi all...
...fried oakra?? What am I missing out on??
I'm munching on a marinated kangaroo fillet right now!
Cheers
Russell
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| Subject: | Re: Great flight(s) |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Nico van Niekerk" <sales@cybersuperstore.com>
You guys have all the fun out there. You should save some for us mahogany
bomber pilots also.
Nice going for the new year.
Nico
PS. Russell, you guys eat those cute jumpin' thingies? Do they also taste
like chicken?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Legg" <rlegg@austarnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Great flight(s)
> --> Commander-List message posted by: Russell Legg
<rlegg@austarnet.com.au>
>
> Hey Milt,
>
> Thanks for sharing your latest adventures with 'lil Crunk in white-out!!
>
> Great to hear another 520 has joined the ranks...Well done!
>
> Cheers and ciders
>
> Russell
>
>
> On 2/1/03 12:57 AM, "n414c" <n414c@direcway.com> wrote:
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "n414c" <n414c@direcway.com>
> >
> > Little Crunk and I planned on leaving to pickup Jim Lyle in Atlanta
yesterday
> > AM and give home a ride to Delaware Ohio to pickup his newly purchased
520 so
> > little Crunk could give him a checkout and fly it back to Augusta Ga.
> >
> >
> > The day started badly. At 3AM a line of thunderstorms crossed the house,
beat
> > us up pretty badly and took out the power. Not to be stopped we did our
flight
> > planning at 5AM by the light of an oil lamp.
> >
> > The line of storms was solid between Miss. and Georgia so Jim hopped a
> > commercial flight to Cincinnati. Crunk and I headed out in 414C to meet
him.
> >
> > IMC at 300' and stayed that way at 17,000' all the way to CVG, 3 hours
in the
> > mush, ILS 36L into CVG 1mile an 600'
> >
> > Picked Jim up and on to Delaware Ohio in similar conditions with a GPS
28
> > approach to a slick runway where little Crunk greased it on. (actually
saw
> > snow for the first time in several years. Sure is cold up north.
> >
> > Jims 520 is pristine. The prior owner appears to have down all the
things that
> > make the first year of ownership a pain. Jim plans on coming to Dayton
next
> > year. (Jimbob get a plaque ready).
> >
> > Jim and Don then headed to Charleston WV and then Atlanta in less than
nice
> > weather and made it in safely.
> >
> > Gail and I headed back to Miss. once again solid IMC dodging embedded
> > thunderstorms and fighting the headwind from hell. 4hrs 30min later an
ILS to
> > minimums into MCB
> > and tied her down in a squall.
> >
> > 8hrs on the gauges without an autopilot. Ain't aerocommanders great.
> >
> > Little Crunk is now on his way to Danbury Connecticut to pickup and
deliver
> > another aircraft to its new owner somewhere out west. Hope its heater
works as
> > he figures 8-10 hrs flight time.
> > Milt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Great flight(s) |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "James Lyle" <JLyle@MAGMutual.Com>
It was a great day to buy a Commander!
From one of the newest Commander owners , I can't thank all of the TCFG members
enough who have provided advice on flying as well as helped me get my Commander
home, especially Dr. Milt, Don and Cris they have been great.
I have requested an application for membership in the TCFG and fully expect to
join ASAP.
The 520 flies great and I am even beginning to get used to the steering.
Keep the tips coming for the newest "Commander Rookie"
At this point I'll probably believe anything you tell me.
Hope to see all of you in Dayton.
James
N11L
Thanks to all.
Especially Dr. Mi
>>> CloudCraft@aol.com 01/01 1:20 PM >>>
--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 01/01/03 05:59:35 Pacific Standard Time,
n414c@direcway.com writes:
> 4hrs 30min later an ILS to minimums into MCB
>
Don't you just hate having to do an ILS to minimums after 4+30 with a 4:00
bladder?
That was a nice bunch of flying, Dr. Milt, and quite kind of ya'll to help
out a new Commander owner.
Thanks, on behalf of all of us.
Flight planning via oil lamp? Hmmm. I take it they had the smudge pots
light to substitute for approach lights when you got home.
Happy New Year everyone!
Wing Commander Gordon
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
HI KIDS.
There is a 680F Maintenance manual and a 685 Flight manual on
ebay..jb
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