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1. 04:57 AM - Re: 681 Century Conversion VS 680FLP 800 Conversion (Harry Merritt)
2. 04:57 AM - Re: 681 Century Conversion VS 680FLP 800 Conversion (Harry Merritt)
3. 07:16 AM - Re: 681 Century Conversion VS 680FLP 800 Conversion (CloudCraft@aol.com)
4. 12:46 PM - Landing gear Actuators (apg86@netscape.net (Andres Poblete Geraghty))
5. 02:06 PM - Re: Landing gear Actuators (Bill Williams)
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| Subject: | Re: 681 Century Conversion VS 680FLP 800 Conversion |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Harry Merritt" <avtec2@bellsouth.net>
Happy New Year Tylor
We bought 47RR and i an going to order thru Uncle Dick
a new set of Compacts!!
Harry
321 267-3141
----- Original Message -----
From: Tylor Hall
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2058 9:29 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: 681 Century Conversion VS 680FLP 800 Conversion
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tylor Hall" <winddancer@centurytel.net>
Ben is asking $265,000 for 400HC. It is listed on Controller. He has been
wanting to sell it for a long time.
Yes, the whole discussion with Hartzell has been about the new hub and a
different blade design that is 86" long. They are calling it a wide cord.
We have not been able to try it with out an airframe.
Will it cruse at about 210Kts at 18,000 ft? What would be the fuel flow?
Regards,
Tylor Hall
Wind Dancer Aviation Services, Inc.
2V1, Pagosa Springs, CO
970-731-2127
> What about Ben Clark's 680FLP with the Mr. RPM 800 conversion as a
> compairson to the 681?
> I have been working with Hartzel on a new compact hub prop to eliminate
the
> 500 hr rebuilt. You know the aircraft. What is its' performance in
> compairson?
>
I don't know the price tag on N400CH so it's difficult to make a
straight-line bang for the buck comparison.
Of course, being a Mr. RPM conversion, it's similar systems-wise to the 681
with bleed air pressurization. Also, Ben converted to 5606 hydraulic fluid
and has done tons of other enhancements. (Check out his 4 point shoulder
belts!!)
I'd like to see a longer prop blade go on the Mr. RPMs to restore the
acceleration on take off. Is this, by chance, part of what you're working
on?
Performance? The 681 Century will out perform in almost every category. If
you were to compare to a Garrett -43 powered 680-T, V,W or 681, I'd take
Ben's Mr. RPM due to mx and operating costs.
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Re: 681 Century Conversion VS 680FLP 800 Conversion |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Harry Merritt" <avtec2@bellsouth.net>
I An orderindg all the mods from Dick!!!
Harry
----- Original Message -----
From: Tylor Hall
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2058 11:08 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: 681 Century Conversion VS 680FLP 800 Conversion
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tylor Hall" <winddancer@centurytel.net>
The intercoolers that Dick MacCoon designed for the Rajay 500 are supposed
to fit on the 800 conversions including the air scoop and remote oil cooler.
We are going up to see Dick in the near future to talk about a lot of
things.
I would like to both props and intercoolers with the remote oil cooler.
200 Knots at 40 GPH with what that aircraft will haul is not bad.
Regards,
Tylor Hall
Wind Dancer Aviation Services, Inc.
2V1, Pagosa Springs, CO
970-731-2127
> Will it cruse at about 210Kts at 18,000 ft? What would be the fuel flow?
In theory, but not in practice. I think 190-200 KTAS is what Ben's been
getting and 38-40 GPH. Of course, I don't know that he's going up to
FL180; probably flying in the 15-16,000 foot range as he and I did on most
of
the trips we did in N400CH.
It's my opinion (and that only) that the power in the IO-720 isn't getting
turned into thrust. Either inter coolers and/or different prop blades are
required to get the Mr. RPM to fly to its full potential.
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Re: 681 Century Conversion VS 680FLP 800 Conversion |
--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 01/10/03 04:57:39 Pacific Standard Time,
avtec2@bellsouth.net writes:
> We bought 47RR and i an going to order thru Uncle Dick
> a new set of Compacts!!
> Harry
> 321 267-3141
>
Harry,
There are some doo-dads and gizmos on N47RR that I've just got to know about.
When you figure out what the venturi with the needle probe is on the right
side, let Sir Barry and me know.
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Landing gear Actuators |
--> Commander-List message posted by: apg86@netscape.net (Andres Poblete Geraghty)
Hello I'm always reading this email about commanders because I'm a Commander wannabe
I fly a Cessna 421C and the landing gear actuators made by Western Hydraulics
are leaking and I want to know if somebody can tell where I can buy the
seal to overhaul or send in for overhaul.
I appreciate your input
--
Andres P Geraghty
apg86@netscape.net
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| Subject: | Landing gear Actuators |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Williams" <billw@air-matrix.com>
Andres:
We had our landing gear actuators overhauled by Commander Aero in
Maimsburg, HO, telephone 937-885-5580.
Bill Williams
AirMatrix
17705 49th Place N.E., Hangar D
Arlington, WA 98223-7898
tel: 360-435-7343
fax: 360-435-8193
billw@air-matrix.com
www.air-matrix.com
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