---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/10/03: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:57 AM - Re: 681 Century Conversion VS 680FLP 800 Conversion (Harry Merritt) 2. 04:57 AM - Re: 681 Century Conversion VS 680FLP 800 Conversion (Harry Merritt) 3. 07:16 AM - Re: 681 Century Conversion VS 680FLP 800 Conversion (CloudCraft@aol.com) 4. 12:46 PM - Landing gear Actuators (apg86@netscape.net (Andres Poblete Geraghty)) 5. 02:06 PM - Re: Landing gear Actuators (Bill Williams) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:57:03 AM PST US From: "Harry Merritt" Subject: Re: Commander-List: 681 Century Conversion VS 680FLP 800 Conversion --> Commander-List message posted by: "Harry Merritt" Happy New Year Tylor We bought 47RR and i an going to order thru Uncle Dick a new set of Compacts!! Harry 321 267-3141 ----- Original Message ----- From: Tylor Hall To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2058 9:29 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: 681 Century Conversion VS 680FLP 800 Conversion --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tylor Hall" Ben is asking $265,000 for 400HC. It is listed on Controller. He has been wanting to sell it for a long time. Yes, the whole discussion with Hartzell has been about the new hub and a different blade design that is 86" long. They are calling it a wide cord. We have not been able to try it with out an airframe. Will it cruse at about 210Kts at 18,000 ft? What would be the fuel flow? Regards, Tylor Hall Wind Dancer Aviation Services, Inc. 2V1, Pagosa Springs, CO 970-731-2127 > What about Ben Clark's 680FLP with the Mr. RPM 800 conversion as a > compairson to the 681? > I have been working with Hartzel on a new compact hub prop to eliminate the > 500 hr rebuilt. You know the aircraft. What is its' performance in > compairson? > I don't know the price tag on N400CH so it's difficult to make a straight-line bang for the buck comparison. Of course, being a Mr. RPM conversion, it's similar systems-wise to the 681 with bleed air pressurization. Also, Ben converted to 5606 hydraulic fluid and has done tons of other enhancements. (Check out his 4 point shoulder belts!!) I'd like to see a longer prop blade go on the Mr. RPMs to restore the acceleration on take off. Is this, by chance, part of what you're working on? Performance? The 681 Century will out perform in almost every category. If you were to compare to a Garrett -43 powered 680-T, V,W or 681, I'd take Ben's Mr. RPM due to mx and operating costs. Wing Commander Gordon ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:57:50 AM PST US From: "Harry Merritt" Subject: Re: Commander-List: 681 Century Conversion VS 680FLP 800 Conversion --> Commander-List message posted by: "Harry Merritt" I An orderindg all the mods from Dick!!! Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: Tylor Hall To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2058 11:08 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: 681 Century Conversion VS 680FLP 800 Conversion --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tylor Hall" The intercoolers that Dick MacCoon designed for the Rajay 500 are supposed to fit on the 800 conversions including the air scoop and remote oil cooler. We are going up to see Dick in the near future to talk about a lot of things. I would like to both props and intercoolers with the remote oil cooler. 200 Knots at 40 GPH with what that aircraft will haul is not bad. Regards, Tylor Hall Wind Dancer Aviation Services, Inc. 2V1, Pagosa Springs, CO 970-731-2127 > Will it cruse at about 210Kts at 18,000 ft? What would be the fuel flow? In theory, but not in practice. I think 190-200 KTAS is what Ben's been getting and 38-40 GPH. Of course, I don't know that he's going up to FL180; probably flying in the 15-16,000 foot range as he and I did on most of the trips we did in N400CH. It's my opinion (and that only) that the power in the IO-720 isn't getting turned into thrust. Either inter coolers and/or different prop blades are required to get the Mr. RPM to fly to its full potential. Wing Commander Gordon ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:12 AM PST US From: CloudCraft@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: 681 Century Conversion VS 680FLP 800 Conversion --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com In a message dated 01/10/03 04:57:39 Pacific Standard Time, avtec2@bellsouth.net writes: > We bought 47RR and i an going to order thru Uncle Dick > a new set of Compacts!! > Harry > 321 267-3141 > Harry, There are some doo-dads and gizmos on N47RR that I've just got to know about. When you figure out what the venturi with the needle probe is on the right side, let Sir Barry and me know. Wing Commander Gordon ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:46:17 PM PST US From: apg86@netscape.net (Andres Poblete Geraghty) Subject: Commander-List: Landing gear Actuators --> Commander-List message posted by: apg86@netscape.net (Andres Poblete Geraghty) Hello I'm always reading this email about commanders because I'm a Commander wannabe I fly a Cessna 421C and the landing gear actuators made by Western Hydraulics are leaking and I want to know if somebody can tell where I can buy the seal to overhaul or send in for overhaul. I appreciate your input -- Andres P Geraghty apg86@netscape.net The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:06:32 PM PST US From: "Bill Williams" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Landing gear Actuators --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Williams" Andres: We had our landing gear actuators overhauled by Commander Aero in Maimsburg, HO, telephone 937-885-5580. Bill Williams AirMatrix 17705 49th Place N.E., Hangar D Arlington, WA 98223-7898 tel: 360-435-7343 fax: 360-435-8193 billw@air-matrix.com www.air-matrix.com