---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 01/14/03: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:02 AM - Re: i need insurance help (TILLMAN333@aol.com) 2. 06:07 AM - Re: i need insurance help...online application (TILLMAN333@aol.com) 3. 07:16 AM - Re: i need insurance help (Phil Stubbs) 4. 07:30 AM - Re: i need insurance help (Randy Dettmer, AIA) 5. 08:05 AM - Re: i need insurance help (Rodd Browne) 6. 12:12 PM - Re: i need insurance help (n414c) 7. 01:46 PM - Re: i need insurance help (Nico van Niekerk) 8. 06:14 PM - Re: [Fw: aerocommander parts for sale] (MOEMILLS@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:24 AM PST US From: TILLMAN333@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: i need insurance help --> Commander-List message posted by: TILLMAN333@aol.com Call Gary Tillman 800-228-4283 for Commander Insurance...or goto the web page and complete the application www.flysafeinsurance.com I currently own a 1962 500A N811D Colemill Conversion. My first twin was a 1958 500...N55BW currently owned by Ford Cooper. Please contact me if you need help... Fly Safe, Gary Tillman ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:36 AM PST US From: TILLMAN333@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: i need insurance help...online application --> Commander-List message posted by: TILLMAN333@aol.com www.flysafeinsurance.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:01 AM PST US From: "Phil Stubbs" Subject: RE: Commander-List: i need insurance help --> Commander-List message posted by: "Phil Stubbs" I dealt with Tillman whose original estimate jumped $2000 when I called to bind the policy. Also Falcon agency in TX whom I had used for 15 years said their were only four underwriters who would deal with Commanders. All the quotes were in the $4500 range, some with a $10,000 deduct for gear up. As a last resort I called Avemco. They were easy to work with and $3600 for $1 mil/$100K hull. This was about eight months ago. Phil Stubbs br549phil@mindspring.com Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: allan hoffman > To: > Date: 1/13/2003 11:55:58 PM > Subject: Commander-List: i need insurance help > > --> Commander-List message posted by: allan hoffman > > my insurance agent is having trouble getting me a reasonable quote for my > 500. what companies should i have him check? where are the companies or > agents who specialize in commanders? should i change agents (he has > always helped before)? thanks, al hoffman > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:30:15 AM PST US From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Subject: Re: Commander-List: i need insurance help --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" I am using Avquest Insurance Service (Sacramento, CA 916 853 8080). This year's premium is $3012.00 for $122K hull coverage ($2,500 deductable in motion), $1million liability each occurance / $100,000 each passenger, & $3,000.00 ea passenger / $21,000 ea occurance medical payments (excluding crew). This year I was required to do a Multi-engine flight review. Aircraft is a 1961 680F. My total time is about 2,000 hours with 500 multi. I have a commercial certificate with multi, instrument, & CFI. I have been pleased with Avquest's service for the past 3 years. Contact me if you have questions. Randy Dettmer 680F/N6253X ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Stubbs" Subject: RE: Commander-List: i need insurance help > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Phil Stubbs" > > I dealt with Tillman whose original estimate jumped $2000 when I called to > bind the policy. Also Falcon agency in TX whom I had used for 15 years > said their were only four underwriters who would deal with Commanders. All > the quotes were in the $4500 range, some with a $10,000 deduct for gear up. > As a last resort I called Avemco. They were easy to work with and $3600 > for $1 mil/$100K hull. This was about eight months ago. > > Phil Stubbs > br549phil@mindspring.com > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > > > > [Original Message] > > From: allan hoffman > > To: > > Date: 1/13/2003 11:55:58 PM > > Subject: Commander-List: i need insurance help > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: allan hoffman > > > > my insurance agent is having trouble getting me a reasonable quote for my > > 500. what companies should i have him check? where are the companies or > > agents who specialize in commanders? should i change agents (he has > > always helped before)? thanks, al hoffman > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:21 AM PST US From: "Rodd Browne" Subject: Re: Commander-List: i need insurance help --> Commander-List message posted by: "Rodd Browne" I use "Aircraft Insurance Agency by Duncan" in Lancaster, TX, phone 800-232-1953 for two years. Last July they insured my 1957 560E for $2446. I haven't found ANYONE who could touch that. rodd ----- Original Message ----- From: "allan hoffman" Subject: Commander-List: i need insurance help > --> Commander-List message posted by: allan hoffman > > my insurance agent is having trouble getting me a reasonable quote for my > 500. what companies should i have him check? where are the companies or > agents who specialize in commanders? should i change agents (he has > always helped before)? thanks, al hoffman > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:12:07 PM PST US From: "n414c" Subject: Re: Commander-List: i need insurance help --> Commander-List message posted by: "n414c" I went with Avemco with my 1st commander because of price. It was $500 cheaper than Tillman quoted me. Year 2 instead of a decrease Avemco came in at $2000 more than Gary Tillman. I have heard also that Avemco does everything in the world to not pay up in the event of an accident. True or not I do not know. I mentioned on the web site that my plane had some minor vandalism and without asking or notifying anyone Tillman was on the phone wanting to pay the claim. I have found you get what you pay for and Gary Tillman has been worth every penny. I am not so sure about the other. Milt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Stubbs" Subject: RE: Commander-List: i need insurance help > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Phil Stubbs" > > I dealt with Tillman whose original estimate jumped $2000 when I called to > bind the policy. Also Falcon agency in TX whom I had used for 15 years > said their were only four underwriters who would deal with Commanders. All > the quotes were in the $4500 range, some with a $10,000 deduct for gear up. > As a last resort I called Avemco. They were easy to work with and $3600 > for $1 mil/$100K hull. This was about eight months ago. > > Phil Stubbs > br549phil@mindspring.com > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > > > > [Original Message] > > From: allan hoffman > > To: > > Date: 1/13/2003 11:55:58 PM > > Subject: Commander-List: i need insurance help > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: allan hoffman > > > > my insurance agent is having trouble getting me a reasonable quote for my > > 500. what companies should i have him check? where are the companies or > > agents who specialize in commanders? should i change agents (he has > > always helped before)? thanks, al hoffman > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:46:34 PM PST US From: "Nico van Niekerk" Subject: Re: Commander-List: i need insurance help --> Commander-List message posted by: "Nico van Niekerk" In all fairness, it sounds as if Gary Tillman is a broker and not the underwriter. If he came back with a $2g increase when the policy was to be confirmed, he handed down whatever the underwriter instructed. I don't believe that a broker can add a spread to the premiums. Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: "n414c" Subject: Re: Commander-List: i need insurance help > --> Commander-List message posted by: "n414c" > > I went with Avemco with my 1st commander because of price. It was $500 > cheaper than Tillman quoted me. Year 2 instead of a decrease Avemco came in > at $2000 more than Gary Tillman. I have heard also that Avemco does > everything in the world to not pay up in the event of an accident. True or > not I do not know. > I mentioned on the web site that my plane had some minor vandalism and > without asking or notifying anyone Tillman was on the phone wanting to pay > the claim. > > I have found you get what you pay for and Gary Tillman has been worth every > penny. I am not so sure about the other. > Milt > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Stubbs" > To: ; "allan hoffman" > Subject: RE: Commander-List: i need insurance help > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Phil Stubbs" > > > > > I dealt with Tillman whose original estimate jumped $2000 when I called to > > bind the policy. Also Falcon agency in TX whom I had used for 15 years > > said their were only four underwriters who would deal with Commanders. > All > > the quotes were in the $4500 range, some with a $10,000 deduct for gear > up. > > As a last resort I called Avemco. They were easy to work with and $3600 > > for $1 mil/$100K hull. This was about eight months ago. > > > > Phil Stubbs > > br549phil@mindspring.com > > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: allan hoffman > > > To: > > > Date: 1/13/2003 11:55:58 PM > > > Subject: Commander-List: i need insurance help > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: allan hoffman > > > > > > my insurance agent is having trouble getting me a reasonable quote for > my > > > 500. what companies should i have him check? where are the companies > or > > > agents who specialize in commanders? should i change agents (he has > > > always helped before)? thanks, al hoffman > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:21 PM PST US From: MOEMILLS@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: [Fwd: aerocommander parts for sale] --> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com What type of parts do you have for sale? Anything neat and cheap for a 680f(p)? Moe N680RR