---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/23/03: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:36 AM - Change of address (Chris Schuermann) 2. 05:40 AM - Re: Chat-DAMN THING (N414C) 3. 05:44 AM - Re: Chat-DAMN THING (N414C) 4. 06:02 AM - Re: Chat-DAMN THING (Harry Merritt) 5. 06:19 AM - Little Crunk update (N414C) 6. 06:29 AM - Re: Little Crunk update (Nico van Niekerk) 7. 06:36 AM - FW: Re: Chat-DAMN THING (Phil Stubbs) 8. 08:30 AM - Re: Little Crunk update (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 9. 08:32 AM - Re: Little Crunk update (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 10. 08:33 AM - Re: Little Crunk update (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 11. 03:04 PM - Re: Chat-DAMN THING (Bow) 12. 03:04 PM - Re: Little Crunk update (Bow) 13. 03:04 PM - Re: Little Crunk update (Bow) 14. 11:30 PM - Re: Chat-DAMN THING (Bow) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:48 AM PST US From: Chris Schuermann Subject: Commander-List: Change of address --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann I'm going to be shutting down my old email address of many years shortly. From now on, please use: cschuerm(at)cox.net (replace the (at) with the @ sign). Chris Schuermann do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:40:15 AM PST US From: "N414C" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat-DAMN THING --> Commander-List message posted by: "N414C" Step up to the plate. Go geared. It will grow hair on your....... Milt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Crow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat-DAMN THING > --> Commander-List message posted by: Stephen Crow > > I tried to get Bilbo off the list....but his machine obviously loves him more than taking a chance with me! I'm still looking.....for a non-geared Commander. Who has a nice 500-A out there???? Steve C. k4cpx@arrl.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: CloudCraft@aol.com > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:00 PM > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat-DAMN THING > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com > > In a message dated 01/22/03 17:25:13 Pacific Standard Time, w.bow@att.net > writes: > > > > The DAMN THING wouldn't even run to get sold. I think in its little metal > > brain it knew what was going on and it didn't want to go. > > It's a conspiracy, Bilbo. > > We don't want you to leave the list. > > Wing Commander Gordon > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:44:57 AM PST US From: "N414C" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat-DAMN THING --> Commander-List message posted by: "N414C" I have my fingers crossed. For almost the 1st year 414C had Bow syndrome and was a bottomless pit. For the last 8 months it has pretty much been a pure joy with minimal cost. Milt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bow" Subject: Commander-List: Chat-DAMN THING > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" > > Because of a number of "things", I almost sold the 500A Tuesday. > > Nearly half of the money I have spent on the "pit" has gone to bad vendors. > From electric boost pumps(twice to one vendor, once to another), to fuel > cells(3 times), hydraulic pump(twice in 4 months same leak). This over > stressed US BOTH. > > I began discussing a less complicated(cheaper) replacement plane and was > going nowhere. > > Tuesday AM my "co-pilot" said she didn't really want to sell it. I > responded that I had made a verbal commitment and I would show the airplane > as promised. > > I leak checked the hydraulic pump and gassed the plane up for the ride to > the prospective buyer. After the run up and before the take off roll I > always look at the engines. The right engine was puking out oil. I > returned to the tiedown spot and parked it. It took me about 2 hours to get > somebody to look in the nacelle while I ran it. This time the vendor was > ME. I failed to put the gasket on the pump, now the day was shot. > > The DAMN THING wouldn't even run to get sold. I think in its little metal > brain it knew what was going on and it didn't want to go. > > After the dinner discussion it was decided to keep "the pit", and replace > the offending engine which has been responsible for a number of annoyances > in the past. > > The prospective buyer is a member of this list and he very graciously > accepted my apologies when I withdrew the airplane from the market. My > thanks to him. > > bilbo > (keeper of the DAMN THING) > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:49 AM PST US From: "Harry Merritt" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat-DAMN THING --> Commander-List message posted by: "Harry Merritt" Gear you will never go Back N47RR ----- Original Message ----- From: N414C To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:39 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat-DAMN THING --> Commander-List message posted by: "N414C" Step up to the plate. Go geared. It will grow hair on your....... Milt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Crow" To: Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat-DAMN THING > --> Commander-List message posted by: Stephen Crow > > I tried to get Bilbo off the list....but his machine obviously loves him more than taking a chance with me! I'm still looking.....for a non-geared Commander. Who has a nice 500-A out there???? Steve C. k4cpx@arrl.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: CloudCraft@aol.com > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:00 PM > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat-DAMN THING > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com > > In a message dated 01/22/03 17:25:13 Pacific Standard Time, w.bow@att.net > writes: > > > > The DAMN THING wouldn't even run to get sold. I think in its little metal > > brain it knew what was going on and it didn't want to go. > > It's a conspiracy, Bilbo. > > We don't want you to leave the list. > > Wing Commander Gordon > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:19:58 AM PST US From: "N414C" Subject: Commander-List: Little Crunk update --> Commander-List message posted by: "N414C" As some of you know Don Little Crunk has been staying with us and in return for bread,water and a mattress in our garage he is doing some work around the farm. Done (oil slick) aka little crunk is a commercial multi instrument airline wannabe pilot. Some of you will recall when he became famous by leaving the oil cap off 414C on the way to Portland 2 years ago causing the plane to puke 10 quarts of oil and a non scheduled landing with 7 pax aboard. He has now topped even that impressive feat. I had a lightening strike on the house last year and it split a Fascia board along the 2nd story roof line. During the time it was open a billion honeybees moved in making repair impossible. All the insect experts in the world couldn't get rid of them. So I discussed this in detail with done and we decided when it got really cold (about 4 days out of the year in Mississippi) he would pull the board and the bees down and fix it. Forecast was for really really (<10 deg F) cold Starting today (Thurs) thru Saturday. At 10deg F Bees cannot move. So Monday we planned the repair for the cold days and I left town for a day. Upon return I find a bee stung little Crunk who decided to fix the boards Monday (71 deg F) because it would be more comfortable than working in cold weather. As I type this he is outside freezing his ass off pulling down honeycomb and not being stung. Will young men ever learn that everyone over 50 is not stupid? So we can now call him bee sting as well as oil slick. Milt ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:27 AM PST US From: "Nico van Niekerk" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Little Crunk update --> Commander-List message posted by: "Nico van Niekerk" Where have all the brave ones gone, gone to beehives every one.... (Hummed to the tune of where have all the flowers gone.. because I cannot sing..) Well, Milt, at least he will have some pretty nice stories to share with his grand kids one day and they won't believe him either. Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: "N414C" Subject: Commander-List: Little Crunk update > --> Commander-List message posted by: "N414C" > > As some of you know Don Little Crunk has been staying with us and in return for bread,water and a mattress in our garage he is doing some work around the farm. > Done (oil slick) aka little crunk is a commercial multi instrument airline wannabe pilot. > Some of you will recall when he became famous by leaving the oil cap off 414C on the way to Portland 2 years ago causing the plane to puke 10 quarts of oil and a non scheduled landing with 7 pax aboard. > > He has now topped even that impressive feat. > > I had a lightening strike on the house last year and it split a Fascia board along the 2nd story roof line. > During the time it was open a billion honeybees moved in making repair impossible. All the insect experts in the world couldn't get rid of them. > > So I discussed this in detail with done and we decided when it got really cold (about 4 days out of the year in Mississippi) he would pull the board and the bees down and fix it. > > Forecast was for really really (<10 deg F) cold Starting today (Thurs) thru Saturday. At 10deg F Bees cannot move. > > So Monday we planned the repair for the cold days and I left town for a day. > > Upon return I find a bee stung little Crunk who decided to fix the boards Monday (71 deg F) because it would be more comfortable than working in cold weather. > > As I type this he is outside freezing his ass off pulling down honeycomb and not being stung. > > Will young men ever learn that everyone over 50 is not stupid? > > > So we can now call him bee sting as well as oil slick. > Milt > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:56 AM PST US From: "Phil Stubbs" Subject: FW: Re: Commander-List: Chat-DAMN THING --> Commander-List message posted by: "Phil Stubbs" Phil Stubbs br549phil@mindspring.com Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: Phil Stubbs > To: > Date: 1/23/2003 9:30:51 AM > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat-DAMN THING > > I get a sick comfort hearing your storys. Six months into my 560F which was virtually untouched for 40 years(almost every hose has 1962 on the tag) it has gone from breaking every flight to only every third flight. Progress! Every time it gets cold another o-ring lets go. Heater works in level flight, fuel cells, pumps, struts, radios, autopilot, water leaks. But everytime I hear the drone of the those geared 540's I know I'm hooked. > Phil > > Phil Stubbs > br549phil@mindspring.com > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > > > > [Original Message] > > From: > > To: > > Date: 1/22/2003 6:00:21 PM > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat-DAMN THING > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com > > > > In a message dated 01/22/03 17:25:13 Pacific Standard Time, w.bow@att.net > > writes: > > > > > > > The DAMN THING wouldn't even run to get sold. I think in its little metal > > > brain it knew what was going on and it didn't want to go. > > > > It's a conspiracy, Bilbo. > > > > We don't want you to leave the list. > > > > Wing Commander Gordon > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:30:06 AM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Little Crunk update --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 1/23/03 6:20:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, N414C@direcway.com writes: > Will young men ever learn that everyone over 50 is not stupid " Oh, What a shame that youth is wasted on the young" anonymous..........jb PS did the bottle make it, it was shipped last Thursday. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:32:05 AM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Little Crunk update --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 1/23/03 6:20:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, N414C@direcway.com writes: > Will young men ever learn that everyone over 50 is not stupid? It would BEE great if we could pass along all we have learned. jb ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:33:27 AM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Little Crunk update --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 1/23/03 6:20:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, N414C@direcway.com writes: > Will young men ever learn that everyone over 50 is not stupid? He will probably BEE smarter next time. jb ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:04:13 PM PST US From: "Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat-DAMN THING --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" > Step up to the plate. Go geared. It will grow hair on your....... Bald spot on the back of my head?????? bilbo ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:04:22 PM PST US From: "Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Little Crunk update --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" I think he has completed his airline training and should be hired any day, bilbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "N414C" Subject: Commander-List: Little Crunk update > --> Commander-List message posted by: "N414C" > > As some of you know Don Little Crunk has been staying with us and in return for bread,water and a mattress in our garage he is doing some work around the farm. > Done (oil slick) aka little crunk is a commercial multi instrument airline wannabe pilot. > Some of you will recall when he became famous by leaving the oil cap off 414C on the way to Portland 2 years ago causing the plane to puke 10 quarts of oil and a non scheduled landing with 7 pax aboard. > > He has now topped even that impressive feat. > > I had a lightening strike on the house last year and it split a Fascia board along the 2nd story roof line. > During the time it was open a billion honeybees moved in making repair impossible. All the insect experts in the world couldn't get rid of them. > > So I discussed this in detail with done and we decided when it got really cold (about 4 days out of the year in Mississippi) he would pull the board and the bees down and fix it. > > Forecast was for really really (<10 deg F) cold Starting today (Thurs) thru Saturday. At 10deg F Bees cannot move. > > So Monday we planned the repair for the cold days and I left town for a day. > > Upon return I find a bee stung little Crunk who decided to fix the boards Monday (71 deg F) because it would be more comfortable than working in cold weather. > > As I type this he is outside freezing his ass off pulling down honeycomb and not being stung. > > Will young men ever learn that everyone over 50 is not stupid? > > > So we can now call him bee sting as well as oil slick. > Milt > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:04:25 PM PST US From: "Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Little Crunk update --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" > > Will young men ever learn that everyone over 50 is not stupid > > " Oh, What a shame that youth is wasted on the young" anonymous..........jb > PS did the bottle make it, it was shipped last Thursday. Yes it did, thanks very much. I already drank it................:>) bilboobooooo ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:30:47 PM PST US From: "Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat-DAMN THING --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" Oh sure.................................. bilbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "N414C" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat-DAMN THING > --> Commander-List message posted by: "N414C" > > I have my fingers crossed. For almost the 1st year 414C had Bow syndrome and > was a bottomless pit. For the last 8 months it has pretty much been a pure > joy with minimal cost. > Milt > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bow" > To: "commanderlist" > Subject: Commander-List: Chat-DAMN THING > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bow" > > > > Because of a number of "things", I almost sold the 500A Tuesday. > > > > Nearly half of the money I have spent on the "pit" has gone to bad > vendors. > > From electric boost pumps(twice to one vendor, once to another), to fuel > > cells(3 times), hydraulic pump(twice in 4 months same leak). This over > > stressed US BOTH. > > > > I began discussing a less complicated(cheaper) replacement plane and was > > going nowhere. > > > > Tuesday AM my "co-pilot" said she didn't really want to sell it. I > > responded that I had made a verbal commitment and I would show the > airplane > > as promised. > > > > I leak checked the hydraulic pump and gassed the plane up for the ride to > > the prospective buyer. After the run up and before the take off roll I > > always look at the engines. The right engine was puking out oil. I > > returned to the tiedown spot and parked it. It took me about 2 hours to > get > > somebody to look in the nacelle while I ran it. This time the vendor was > > ME. I failed to put the gasket on the pump, now the day was shot. > > > > The DAMN THING wouldn't even run to get sold. I think in its little metal > > brain it knew what was going on and it didn't want to go. > > > > After the dinner discussion it was decided to keep "the pit", and replace > > the offending engine which has been responsible for a number of annoyances > > in the past. > > > > The prospective buyer is a member of this list and he very graciously > > accepted my apologies when I withdrew the airplane from the market. My > > thanks to him. > > > > bilbo > > (keeper of the DAMN THING) > > > > > >