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1. 11:42 AM - Operations out of a 3000 ft runway (Bruce Campbell)
2. 01:12 PM - Re: Operations out of a 3000 ft runway (John Vormbaum)
3. 03:52 PM - I,M BACK! (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
4. 04:04 PM - Re: I,M BACK! (Nico van Niekerk)
5. 04:13 PM - Re: I,M BACK! (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
6. 05:37 PM - Re: I,M BACK! (Chris Schuermann)
7. 05:53 PM - Re: I,M BACK! (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
8. 09:43 PM - Re: Operations out of a 3000 ft runway (Jim Addington)
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| Subject: | Operations out of a 3000 ft runway |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell" <baruch@intelligentflight.com>
This may sound way wimpy, but remember I dont have much of a manual to work
with.
Does anyonew thnk it would be a problem to operate a 520 ( or 560, I
suppose) from a 3000 ft runway? (Port Townsend, WA to be precise). I have no
idea currently whether there are obstacles in the area, but I presume there
will be trees fairly close.
My gut says "go for it" but I'd rather not be wrong.
PS, I would have passengers new to GA, so along with "can it be done" is
"would it be *really* dramatic and scare the Groundlings"?
Bruce Campbell
AC52 N4186B
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| Subject: | Re: Operations out of a 3000 ft runway |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
I routinely operate my 500-B at max GW on a 2,700-ft. strip with no
difficulty. There are no obstacles at my airport either, and that would be
something to consider should you lose an engine at rotation.
/J
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Campbell" <baruch@intelligentflight.com>
Subject: Commander-List: Operations out of a 3000 ft runway
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell"
<baruch@intelligentflight.com>
>
> This may sound way wimpy, but remember I dont have much of a manual to
work
> with.
>
> Does anyonew thnk it would be a problem to operate a 520 ( or 560, I
> suppose) from a 3000 ft runway? (Port Townsend, WA to be precise). I have
no
> idea currently whether there are obstacles in the area, but I presume
there
> will be trees fairly close.
>
> My gut says "go for it" but I'd rather not be wrong.
>
> PS, I would have passengers new to GA, so along with "can it be done" is
> "would it be *really* dramatic and scare the Groundlings"?
>
> Bruce Campbell
> AC52 N4186B
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
HI KIDS.
I am back in the country after delivering the 560F to Panama.
It went pretty well, (except someone stole all three gas caps in Acapulco)
That is a bit of a story, but we made it fine. I plan to write a story about
the trip in the next newsletter.
I am leaving tomorrow for CA to work with Morris for a few days, so if
I don't reply right away, sorry. Hope all is well in your "Commanderland"
jb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Nico van Niekerk" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Where in CA will you be?
----- Original Message -----
From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
Subject: Commander-List: I,M BACK!
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
> HI KIDS.
>
> I am back in the country after delivering the 560F to
Panama.
> It went pretty well, (except someone stole all three gas caps in
Acapulco)
> That is a bit of a story, but we made it fine. I plan to write a story
about
> the trip in the next newsletter.
> I am leaving tomorrow for CA to work with Morris for a few days, so
if
> I don't reply right away, sorry. Hope all is well in your "Commanderland"
> jb
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" <rcdettmer@charter.net>
Say hello to Morris for me...and please notice the fine gasoline powered tug
that he has. I traded it to Morris for mechanical services on my
680F...still need to collect. I am looking forward to checking out his new
digs in Stockton in the near future.
By the way, I also lost a gas cap on the 680F, and I found (much to my
chagrin...) that a new one cost a mere $600.00. Managed to find a used one
from the folks at Aero Air for $150...what a "steal".
Welcome home from Latin America..!!
Randy Dettmer
680F/N6253X
----- Original Message -----
From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
Subject: Commander-List: I,M BACK!
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
> HI KIDS.
>
> I am back in the country after delivering the 560F to
Panama.
> It went pretty well, (except someone stole all three gas caps in
Acapulco)
> That is a bit of a story, but we made it fine. I plan to write a story
about
> the trip in the next newsletter.
> I am leaving tomorrow for CA to work with Morris for a few days, so
if
> I don't reply right away, sorry. Hope all is well in your "Commanderland"
> jb
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net>
>--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
> I am leaving tomorrow for CA to work with Morris for a few days
Welcome home JB.
Hey, don't know about everyone else, but I'd sure appreciate a Morris
update. I never did hear if "we" managed to help save his shop and
parts collection. Hopefully the loans and support served the intended
purpose.
chris
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" <rcdettmer@charter.net>
Hey Chris...
I can tell you that Morris was very appreciative of all our effort to help
him out. As I mentioned in my previous post, he needed a tug for his new
hangar, and I just happened to have an "almost new" tug which I traded to
him for services. I had my son's friends drive it up to Stockton just in
time for his first Turbo Commander to arrive for service. His new hangar is
brand new, and even has its own restroom too...that's a big improvement.!!
Hope all is well with you in the heartland.
Randy Dettmer
680F/N6253X
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Schuermann" <cschuerm@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: I,M BACK!
> --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net>
>
> >--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
> > I am leaving tomorrow for CA to work with Morris for a few days
>
> Welcome home JB.
> Hey, don't know about everyone else, but I'd sure appreciate a Morris
> update. I never did hear if "we" managed to help save his shop and
> parts collection. Hopefully the loans and support served the intended
> purpose.
>
> chris
>
>
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| Subject: | Operations out of a 3000 ft runway |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
Bruce,
I operate my 500A off 2600' of grass all the time. The field elevation is
700' +or- with low trees about 100 feet off the end. I have done the even
with the temp at 100 Deg. This was at max gross. I have the 260 hp Cont
engs. I would start out at a lower gross weight and work up to what you
need.
Jim
N444BD
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bruce
Campbell
Subject: Commander-List: Operations out of a 3000 ft runway
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell"
<baruch@intelligentflight.com>
This may sound way wimpy, but remember I dont have much of a manual to work
with.
Does anyonew thnk it would be a problem to operate a 520 ( or 560, I
suppose) from a 3000 ft runway? (Port Townsend, WA to be precise). I have no
idea currently whether there are obstacles in the area, but I presume there
will be trees fairly close.
My gut says "go for it" but I'd rather not be wrong.
PS, I would have passengers new to GA, so along with "can it be done" is
"would it be *really* dramatic and scare the Groundlings"?
Bruce Campbell
AC52 N4186B
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