---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 02/24/03: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:42 AM - Operations out of a 3000 ft runway (Bruce Campbell) 2. 01:12 PM - Re: Operations out of a 3000 ft runway (John Vormbaum) 3. 03:52 PM - I,M BACK! (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 4. 04:04 PM - Re: I,M BACK! (Nico van Niekerk) 5. 04:13 PM - Re: I,M BACK! (Randy Dettmer, AIA) 6. 05:37 PM - Re: I,M BACK! (Chris Schuermann) 7. 05:53 PM - Re: I,M BACK! (Randy Dettmer, AIA) 8. 09:43 PM - Re: Operations out of a 3000 ft runway (Jim Addington) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:42:53 AM PST US From: "Bruce Campbell" Subject: Commander-List: Operations out of a 3000 ft runway --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell" This may sound way wimpy, but remember I dont have much of a manual to work with. Does anyonew thnk it would be a problem to operate a 520 ( or 560, I suppose) from a 3000 ft runway? (Port Townsend, WA to be precise). I have no idea currently whether there are obstacles in the area, but I presume there will be trees fairly close. My gut says "go for it" but I'd rather not be wrong. PS, I would have passengers new to GA, so along with "can it be done" is "would it be *really* dramatic and scare the Groundlings"? Bruce Campbell AC52 N4186B ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:12:51 PM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Operations out of a 3000 ft runway --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" I routinely operate my 500-B at max GW on a 2,700-ft. strip with no difficulty. There are no obstacles at my airport either, and that would be something to consider should you lose an engine at rotation. /J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Campbell" Subject: Commander-List: Operations out of a 3000 ft runway > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell" > > This may sound way wimpy, but remember I dont have much of a manual to work > with. > > Does anyonew thnk it would be a problem to operate a 520 ( or 560, I > suppose) from a 3000 ft runway? (Port Townsend, WA to be precise). I have no > idea currently whether there are obstacles in the area, but I presume there > will be trees fairly close. > > My gut says "go for it" but I'd rather not be wrong. > > PS, I would have passengers new to GA, so along with "can it be done" is > "would it be *really* dramatic and scare the Groundlings"? > > Bruce Campbell > AC52 N4186B > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:52:10 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: I,M BACK! --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com HI KIDS. I am back in the country after delivering the 560F to Panama. It went pretty well, (except someone stole all three gas caps in Acapulco) That is a bit of a story, but we made it fine. I plan to write a story about the trip in the next newsletter. I am leaving tomorrow for CA to work with Morris for a few days, so if I don't reply right away, sorry. Hope all is well in your "Commanderland" jb ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:04:05 PM PST US From: "Nico van Niekerk" Subject: Re: Commander-List: I,M BACK! --> Commander-List message posted by: "Nico van Niekerk" Where in CA will you be? ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Commander-List: I,M BACK! > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > > HI KIDS. > > I am back in the country after delivering the 560F to Panama. > It went pretty well, (except someone stole all three gas caps in Acapulco) > That is a bit of a story, but we made it fine. I plan to write a story about > the trip in the next newsletter. > I am leaving tomorrow for CA to work with Morris for a few days, so if > I don't reply right away, sorry. Hope all is well in your "Commanderland" > jb > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:13:37 PM PST US From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Subject: Re: Commander-List: I,M BACK! --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Say hello to Morris for me...and please notice the fine gasoline powered tug that he has. I traded it to Morris for mechanical services on my 680F...still need to collect. I am looking forward to checking out his new digs in Stockton in the near future. By the way, I also lost a gas cap on the 680F, and I found (much to my chagrin...) that a new one cost a mere $600.00. Managed to find a used one from the folks at Aero Air for $150...what a "steal". Welcome home from Latin America..!! Randy Dettmer 680F/N6253X ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Commander-List: I,M BACK! > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > > HI KIDS. > > I am back in the country after delivering the 560F to Panama. > It went pretty well, (except someone stole all three gas caps in Acapulco) > That is a bit of a story, but we made it fine. I plan to write a story about > the trip in the next newsletter. > I am leaving tomorrow for CA to work with Morris for a few days, so if > I don't reply right away, sorry. Hope all is well in your "Commanderland" > jb > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:37:18 PM PST US From: Chris Schuermann Subject: Re: Commander-List: I,M BACK! --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann >--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > I am leaving tomorrow for CA to work with Morris for a few days Welcome home JB. Hey, don't know about everyone else, but I'd sure appreciate a Morris update. I never did hear if "we" managed to help save his shop and parts collection. Hopefully the loans and support served the intended purpose. chris ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:16 PM PST US From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Subject: Re: Commander-List: I,M BACK! --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Hey Chris... I can tell you that Morris was very appreciative of all our effort to help him out. As I mentioned in my previous post, he needed a tug for his new hangar, and I just happened to have an "almost new" tug which I traded to him for services. I had my son's friends drive it up to Stockton just in time for his first Turbo Commander to arrive for service. His new hangar is brand new, and even has its own restroom too...that's a big improvement.!! Hope all is well with you in the heartland. Randy Dettmer 680F/N6253X ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Schuermann" Subject: Re: Commander-List: I,M BACK! > --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann > > >--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > > I am leaving tomorrow for CA to work with Morris for a few days > > Welcome home JB. > Hey, don't know about everyone else, but I'd sure appreciate a Morris > update. I never did hear if "we" managed to help save his shop and > parts collection. Hopefully the loans and support served the intended > purpose. > > chris > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:43:36 PM PST US From: "Jim Addington" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Operations out of a 3000 ft runway --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" Bruce, I operate my 500A off 2600' of grass all the time. The field elevation is 700' +or- with low trees about 100 feet off the end. I have done the even with the temp at 100 Deg. This was at max gross. I have the 260 hp Cont engs. I would start out at a lower gross weight and work up to what you need. Jim N444BD -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bruce Campbell Subject: Commander-List: Operations out of a 3000 ft runway --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell" This may sound way wimpy, but remember I dont have much of a manual to work with. Does anyonew thnk it would be a problem to operate a 520 ( or 560, I suppose) from a 3000 ft runway? (Port Townsend, WA to be precise). I have no idea currently whether there are obstacles in the area, but I presume there will be trees fairly close. My gut says "go for it" but I'd rather not be wrong. PS, I would have passengers new to GA, so along with "can it be done" is "would it be *really* dramatic and scare the Groundlings"? Bruce Campbell AC52 N4186B