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1. 01:45 PM - Re: 500B 500S (Ricardo A. Otaola)
2. 01:46 PM - Re: 500B 500S (Ricardo A. Otaola)
3. 02:44 PM - Piston engines (Barry Collman)
4. 03:05 PM - Re: Piston engines (Tom Fisher)
5. 04:08 PM - Re: 500B 500S (Martini Luc J.R.)
6. 04:22 PM - Re: 500B 500S (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
7. 04:23 PM - Re: Piston engines (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
8. 04:31 PM - nice (short) flight (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
9. 04:33 PM - Re: Piston engines (Tom Fisher)
10. 04:35 PM - GO-480 GIB6 (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
11. 04:37 PM - Re: Piston engines (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
12. 04:49 PM - S&R (Nico van Niekerk)
13. 05:43 PM - Re: nice (short) flight (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
14. 05:59 PM - Re: S&R (Tom Fisher)
15. 06:03 PM - Re: Piston engines (Tom Fisher)
16. 06:06 PM - Re: S&R (CloudCraft@aol.com)
17. 06:08 PM - Re: Piston engines (CloudCraft@aol.com)
18. 06:22 PM - Re: nice (short) flight (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
19. 06:23 PM - Re: Piston engines (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
20. 07:19 PM - Re: S&R (Tom Fisher)
21. 07:50 PM - He returns! (Barry Hancock)
22. 08:15 PM - Re: He returns! (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
23. 08:17 PM - Re: S&R (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
24. 08:21 PM - Re: Piston engines (MarcioK@aol.com)
25. 08:41 PM - Re: S&R (Tom Fisher)
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Ricardo A. Otaola" <otayca@telcel.net.ve>
I would not know how to find that particular one. They are used as
airliners, and the mechanic knows most of them. I will ask for those serials
if he has them. But there are several dorniers around.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martini Luc J.R." <martini@foxinternet.net>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B 500S
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Martini Luc J.R."
<martini@foxinternet.net>
>
> A contact in Venezuela!
> Can you do me a BIG BIG favor?
> See who currently owns a Dornier Do27-A4, SN-147, last known registry was
> 4X-AJR, formerly owned by Arnold Reinhard.
>
> The Do27 used the GO-480 engine like the Commanders (but low compression
> version).
>
> Would love to be able to contact the current owner.
>
> Thanks
> Luc Martini
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ricardo A. Otaola" <otayca@telcel.net.ve>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B 500S
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Ricardo A. Otaola"
> <otayca@telcel.net.ve>
> >
> > Hi there:
> >
> > If you come to Venezuela, I will be very offended if you do not contact
> me.
> > I will be more than happy to take you around and see all commanders
> around,
> > particularly my 680F, a unique piece.
> >
> > 582129930622 ext 203 or portable 011584143334000
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Commander-List: 500B 500S
> >
> >
> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
> > >
> > > HI KIDS.
> > >
> > > I have had a great couple of weeks. I fly a 560F from El
> > Paso,
> > > TX to Panama. Went from El Paso direct to Paure viarta. Then to
> Acapulco
> > to
> > > spend the night. All three gas caps were stolen there!! I duct taped
> the
> > > openings and we were off to Tapachula to clear customs. The tape did
> not
> > > work. You could literately watch the gas gauges go down!! The aux
> tanks
> > > were empty before we reached 5000 (so much for the anti siphon caps!!)
> > > We left with 223 gallons and barley made 200nm, landed with 20
> > > gallons. Our next stop was Ilopango, El Salvidor, 200nm away. I
taped
> > the
> > > main tank and installed a small aluminum angle just in front of the
cap
> > and
> > > an air dam. I worked, kinda. Still lost some gas, but mad the trip
> > > comfortably. The broker traveling with me knew a friend there and we
> > > borrowed a cap from his Navajo aux tank for the main and a couple from
> his
> > > homebuilt Midget Mustang for the aux tanks. These were the "thermos
> > bottle"
> > > type, but fit nice and tight. I loosened a couple of the screws that
> hold
> > > the filler ring to the wing and ran some safety wire across the cap
just
> > to
> > > make sure, it worked!!
> > > We fueled and headed for Panama, 4.5 away. Made the trip in
3.9
> > and
> > > didn't loose a drop. Flew right over the Panama Canal in rout to the
> > airport.
> > > I will write a much more detailed story for the next
newsletter.
> > > I was home less that 30 hours and left for California to sigh
off
> a
> > > couple of annuals for MorisK. Did a 500S (nicest piston Commander I
can
> > > remember) and TCFG member Jimmy Rodreguies 500B, S/N 1. Jimmy sent
his
> > > mechanic, Jose, from San Juan to learn to speak "Commanderiees" He
> already
> > > speaks Spanish and English. We had a blast. I got to deliver TCFG
> member
> > > John Vormbaums 17000tt 500B to him in Palo Alto. Got to ride home in
> the
> > > back seat, John is a great Commander pilot.
> > > Then I delivered the 500S (The thing flew like butter) to it's
> home
> > in
> > > Concord. Had a chance to see my next project airplane up close, the
> 680FP
> > > All in all it was a great couple of weeks. I may have an opportunity
to
> > > deliver another 500B to Venezuela next week, we shall see. Hope all
is
> > well
> > > in your "Commanderland" jb
> > >
> > > PS Remember that the TCAC flyin is this month in Scottsdale, AZ I
will
> > be
> > > flying triple 2 there with Barry Collman. It is the 27 th through the
> > 30th.
> > > Call 360-435-9797 to register, it is a great time. jb
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Ricardo A. Otaola" <otayca@telcel.net.ve>
Caracas, but I can fly out if you are going somewhere else.
----- Original Message -----
From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B 500S
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 3/5/03 11:05:38 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> otayca@telcel.net.ve writes:
>
> > If you come to Venezuela, I will be very offended if you do not contact
me.
> > I will be more than happy to take you around and see all commanders
around,
> > particularly my 680F, a unique piece.
> >
>
> Where are you located?? jb
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Hi All,
I know that many of you probably won't find much that's new, but there may be
the odd 'snippet' you didn't know or understand. I found a vey useful website on
recips at:
http://www.eaa1000.av.org/technicl/engemp/engemp1.htm
I needed to know more than I do, to understand the powerplants better for the
book. It helped me, so I hope there's something there to make your visit
worthwhile!
Very Best Regards,
Barry C
UK
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| Subject: | Re: Piston engines |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Great reading by the fireside, thanks for the link.
Anyone have a 680FLP for lease or lease/purchase?
I need it this summer for Search & Rescue in Vancouver, BC.
Tom F.
Zone Commander
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Subject: Commander-List: Piston engines
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
<barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I know that many of you probably won't find much that's new, but there may
be
> the odd 'snippet' you didn't know or understand. I found a vey useful
website on
> recips at:
>
> http://www.eaa1000.av.org/technicl/engemp/engemp1.htm
>
> I needed to know more than I do, to understand the powerplants better for
the
> book. It helped me, so I hope there's something there to make your visit
> worthwhile!
>
> Very Best Regards,
>
> Barry C
> UK
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Martini Luc J.R." <martini@foxinternet.net>
Thanks Recardo.
The mechanics may well have seen this airplane. However, I believe the
Dorniers you are referring to are probably the Dornier Do-28 or Do2258's.
The Do27 is a single engine STOL airplane. You can see what they look like
at www.do27.com.
Thanks
Luc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ricardo A. Otaola" <otayca@telcel.net.ve>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B 500S
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Ricardo A. Otaola"
<otayca@telcel.net.ve>
>
> I would not know how to find that particular one. They are used as
> airliners, and the mechanic knows most of them. I will ask for those
serials
> if he has them. But there are several dorniers around.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martini Luc J.R." <martini@foxinternet.net>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B 500S
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Martini Luc J.R."
> <martini@foxinternet.net>
> >
> > A contact in Venezuela!
> > Can you do me a BIG BIG favor?
> > See who currently owns a Dornier Do27-A4, SN-147, last known registry
was
> > 4X-AJR, formerly owned by Arnold Reinhard.
> >
> > The Do27 used the GO-480 engine like the Commanders (but low compression
> > version).
> >
> > Would love to be able to contact the current owner.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Luc Martini
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ricardo A. Otaola" <otayca@telcel.net.ve>
> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B 500S
> >
> >
> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Ricardo A. Otaola"
> > <otayca@telcel.net.ve>
> > >
> > > Hi there:
> > >
> > > If you come to Venezuela, I will be very offended if you do not
contact
> > me.
> > > I will be more than happy to take you around and see all commanders
> > around,
> > > particularly my 680F, a unique piece.
> > >
> > > 582129930622 ext 203 or portable 011584143334000
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
> > > To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Commander-List: 500B 500S
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
> > > >
> > > > HI KIDS.
> > > >
> > > > I have had a great couple of weeks. I fly a 560F from
El
> > > Paso,
> > > > TX to Panama. Went from El Paso direct to Paure viarta. Then to
> > Acapulco
> > > to
> > > > spend the night. All three gas caps were stolen there!! I duct
taped
> > the
> > > > openings and we were off to Tapachula to clear customs. The tape
did
> > not
> > > > work. You could literately watch the gas gauges go down!! The aux
> > tanks
> > > > were empty before we reached 5000 (so much for the anti siphon
caps!!)
> > > > We left with 223 gallons and barley made 200nm, landed with
20
> > > > gallons. Our next stop was Ilopango, El Salvidor, 200nm away. I
> taped
> > > the
> > > > main tank and installed a small aluminum angle just in front of the
> cap
> > > and
> > > > an air dam. I worked, kinda. Still lost some gas, but mad the trip
> > > > comfortably. The broker traveling with me knew a friend there and
we
> > > > borrowed a cap from his Navajo aux tank for the main and a couple
from
> > his
> > > > homebuilt Midget Mustang for the aux tanks. These were the "thermos
> > > bottle"
> > > > type, but fit nice and tight. I loosened a couple of the screws
that
> > hold
> > > > the filler ring to the wing and ran some safety wire across the cap
> just
> > > to
> > > > make sure, it worked!!
> > > > We fueled and headed for Panama, 4.5 away. Made the trip in
> 3.9
> > > and
> > > > didn't loose a drop. Flew right over the Panama Canal in rout to
the
> > > airport.
> > > > I will write a much more detailed story for the next
> newsletter.
> > > > I was home less that 30 hours and left for California to sigh
> off
> > a
> > > > couple of annuals for MorisK. Did a 500S (nicest piston Commander I
> can
> > > > remember) and TCFG member Jimmy Rodreguies 500B, S/N 1. Jimmy sent
> his
> > > > mechanic, Jose, from San Juan to learn to speak "Commanderiees" He
> > already
> > > > speaks Spanish and English. We had a blast. I got to deliver TCFG
> > member
> > > > John Vormbaums 17000tt 500B to him in Palo Alto. Got to ride home
in
> > the
> > > > back seat, John is a great Commander pilot.
> > > > Then I delivered the 500S (The thing flew like butter) to
it's
> > home
> > > in
> > > > Concord. Had a chance to see my next project airplane up close, the
> > 680FP
> > > > All in all it was a great couple of weeks. I may have an
opportunity
> to
> > > > deliver another 500B to Venezuela next week, we shall see. Hope all
> is
> > > well
> > > > in your "Commanderland" jb
> > > >
> > > > PS Remember that the TCAC flyin is this month in Scottsdale, AZ I
> will
> > > be
> > > > flying triple 2 there with Barry Collman. It is the 27 th through
the
> > > 30th.
> > > > Call 360-435-9797 to register, it is a great time. jb
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 3/6/03 1:49:00 PM Pacific Standard Time,
otayca@telcel.net.ve writes:
> Caracas, but I can fly out if you are going somewhere else.
>
Great, let me keep you informed. It would be great to see a "Friendly face"
:-) jb
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| Subject: | Re: Piston engines |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 3/6/03 3:05:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,
tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes:
> Anyone have a 680FLP for lease or lease/purchase?
> I need it this summer for Search &Rescue in Vancouver, BC.
>
Morris K has a gourgious 680FLP for sale, might lease?? jb
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| Subject: | nice (short) flight |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
HI KIDS.
Finally got to fly MY Commander today. Took triple 2 to
Scapoose on Biz. While there, I got a tour of Composites unlimited. If you
have seen the new Viper kit jet that is being sold, it is being built there,
along with several other really cool projects. There was a literal assemly
line with 4 in progress. I plan to write a story for In-Flight USA about
their operation.
Flew a practice (just barely) VOR/DME approach. It sure felt
gooooooood to feel those blowers again!! It is only a 10 minute flight,
barely gets the oil warm,(takes well over an hour to drive it) but fun just
the same. Will have a longer trip to Scottsdale soon, 998SM. Sir Barry will
be ridding with and maybe, just maybe my lovely bride!! Hope all is well in
you Commanderland. jb
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| Subject: | Re: Piston engines |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Thanks for notice.
I'll wait for him to respond if he is interested.
I am only leasing because (for now) all I have is a cash flow, it will take
a bit of time to scratch a down payment together.
Tom F.
----- Original Message -----
From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Piston engines
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 3/6/03 3:05:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes:
>
> > Anyone have a 680FLP for lease or lease/purchase?
> > I need it this summer for Search &Rescue in Vancouver, BC.
> >
>
> Morris K has a gourgious 680FLP for sale, might lease?? jb
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
HI KIDS.
Saw this ad. If it is a good OH, it is a great price!! GO-480 GIB6 (295hp
560A HC, or E) 1373TT, "0" SMOH 24V accessories and PS-5 carb $15000
541-496-0048 Good luck jb
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| Subject: | Re: Piston engines |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 3/6/03 4:33:59 PM Pacific Standard Time,
tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes:
> Thanks for notice.
> I'll wait for him to respond if he is interested.
> I am only leasing because (for now) all I have is a cash flow, it will take
> a bit of time to scratch a down payment together.
> Tom F.
He wont know if He is interested if you dont call him:-) jb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Nico van Niekerk" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Tom,
Is there money in that? Just asking out of curiosity, or is it mostly a
labor of love?
Thanks
Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Piston engines
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher"
<tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
>
> Great reading by the fireside, thanks for the link.
>
> Anyone have a 680FLP for lease or lease/purchase?
> I need it this summer for Search & Rescue in Vancouver, BC.
>
> Tom F.
> Zone Commander
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Commander-List: Piston engines
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
> <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I know that many of you probably won't find much that's new, but there
may
> be
> > the odd 'snippet' you didn't know or understand. I found a vey useful
> website on
> > recips at:
> >
> > http://www.eaa1000.av.org/technicl/engemp/engemp1.htm
> >
> > I needed to know more than I do, to understand the powerplants better
for
> the
> > book. It helped me, so I hope there's something there to make your visit
> > worthwhile!
> >
> > Very Best Regards,
> >
> > Barry C
> > UK
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: nice (short) flight |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" <rcdettmer@charter.net>
Hey Jimbo...
I've got to sneak a trip up to the Seattle area this month to visit two
jobsites...one in the hamlet of Ballard, and one on San Juan Island. You'll
get a kick out of the San Juan project...it's a custom residence with
attached hangar (big enough for the owner's Aerostar and several more
aircraft). It will be located in the fly-in community of Roche Harbor on
the north end of the island. I am currently completing construction plans
for the project.
Do you have any advice on flying into your area...like weather concerns,
good airports at which to land, etc... I'll be flying up in my 680F. It
would be great to see you if you're going to be in the area.
Let me know.
Randy Dettmer
680F/N6253X
---- Original Message -----
From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
Subject: Commander-List: nice (short) flight
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
> HI KIDS.
>
> Finally got to fly MY Commander today. Took triple 2 to
> Scapoose on Biz. While there, I got a tour of Composites unlimited. If
you
> have seen the new Viper kit jet that is being sold, it is being built
there,
> along with several other really cool projects. There was a literal
assemly
> line with 4 in progress. I plan to write a story for In-Flight USA about
> their operation.
> Flew a practice (just barely) VOR/DME approach. It sure felt
> gooooooood to feel those blowers again!! It is only a 10 minute flight,
> barely gets the oil warm,(takes well over an hour to drive it) but fun
just
> the same. Will have a longer trip to Scottsdale soon, 998SM. Sir Barry
will
> be ridding with and maybe, just maybe my lovely bride!! Hope all is well
in
> you Commanderland. jb
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Not much money in it but they pay an hourly flat rate that is adjusted by
fuel price.
For example my 500B @ 385hp x 2 = 770hp total.
The last "fuel factor" (extracted from a table for fuel costing 1.10/L was
.655).
Therefore .655 x 770hp = $504.35 per hour which is more than operating
costs.
I also use the aircraft for operations with the local police and the
Cellular company transporting technicians to remote sites.
I also have some use of the aircraft for my corporate requirements.
As I am the Zone Commander for the South West of British Columbia I can
schedule whatever aircraft I like.
I currently have 13 search aircraft and 150 members which are made up of
Spotters & Navigators.
We conduct two scheduled exercises every month in order to keep everybody
current as required by the Federal Government.
The summer is the busiest of course and there is very little in the way of
twins available in this area.
Tom F.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nico van Niekerk" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Subject: Commander-List: S&R
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Nico van Niekerk"
<nico@cybersuperstore.com>
>
> Tom,
> Is there money in that? Just asking out of curiosity, or is it mostly a
> labor of love?
> Thanks
> Nico
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Piston engines
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher"
> <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
> >
> > Great reading by the fireside, thanks for the link.
> >
> > Anyone have a 680FLP for lease or lease/purchase?
> > I need it this summer for Search & Rescue in Vancouver, BC.
> >
> > Tom F.
> > Zone Commander
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Commander-List: Piston engines
> >
> >
> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
> > <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I know that many of you probably won't find much that's new, but there
> may
> > be
> > > the odd 'snippet' you didn't know or understand. I found a vey useful
> > website on
> > > recips at:
> > >
> > > http://www.eaa1000.av.org/technicl/engemp/engemp1.htm
> > >
> > > I needed to know more than I do, to understand the powerplants better
> for
> > the
> > > book. It helped me, so I hope there's something there to make your
visit
> > > worthwhile!
> > >
> > > Very Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Barry C
> > > UK
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Piston engines |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
I was hoping he read this web site.
Maybe someone should send me his number.
Tom F.
----- Original Message -----
From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Piston engines
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 3/6/03 4:33:59 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes:
>
> > Thanks for notice.
> > I'll wait for him to respond if he is interested.
> > I am only leasing because (for now) all I have is a cash flow, it will
take
> > a bit of time to scratch a down payment together.
> > Tom F.
>
> He wont know if He is interested if you dont call him:-) jb
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 03/06/03 18:00:49 Pacific Standard Time,
tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes:
> As I am the Zone Commander for the South West of British Columbia I can
> schedule whatever aircraft I like.
>
Now that's a great title! Someone hung Wing Commander on me quite some time
ago, but Zone Commander has by far, more ... swank.
Can foreigners participate in your SaR missions? Either as pilots or
spotters?
And if a U.S. registered Commander was in your zone, could it be utilized?
(merely) Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Re: Piston engines |
--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 03/06/03 18:04:04 Pacific Standard Time,
tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes:
>
> I was hoping he read this web site.
> Maybe someone should send me his number.
Tom,
No, Yoda has not found the on-ramp to the Information Superhighway.
Call his cell at 321-403-8813
Wing Commander Gordon
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 3/6/03 5:44:19 PM Pacific Standard Time,
rcdettmer@charter.net writes:
> Do you have any advice on flying into your area...like weather concerns,
> good airports at which to land, etc... I'll be flying up in my 680F. It
> would be great to see you if you're going to be in the area.
HI RANDY.
WOW, I hope I am here! There is no real advice EXCEPT!!
There are 4 TFRAs in the area and you will be right in the middle of all of
them. I strongly suggest you buy a terminal chart ahead of time and draw
them in. A local Bonanza pilot, 22K TT airline type etc got cross threaded
in there last year and got busted, so be careful.
I have had My Commander into Roache many times, good strip, narrow and
up hill to the East, but no sweat. For the Ballard job, go to Boeing Field.
It is only about a 20 minute drive from there.
I hope you will stay in touch, I would love to see you. Good luck,
have fun. jb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 3/6/03 6:04:04 PM Pacific Standard Time,
tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes:
> I was hoping he read this web site.
> Maybe someone should send me his number.
>
510-783-3028, no computer. jb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Yes non Canadians may participate although....
In order to participate on an actual search you must be "certified".
For Spotters that means "two flights of not less than one hour each within
the last twelve months".
For Navigators that means "four flights of not less than one hour each
within the last twelve months".
For Pilots that means "twelve flights of not less than one hour each within
the last twelve months".
Aircraft registered in the U.S and flying in Canada are not a problem as
long as they are insured, keep in mind this is not a commercial operation it
is more like a corporate operation paid for by the Federal Government.
Tom F.
Zone Commander
South West Zone
Civil Air Search And Rescue Association (CASARA).
----- Original Message -----
From: <CloudCraft@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: S&R
> --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 03/06/03 18:00:49 Pacific Standard Time,
> tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes:
>
>
> > As I am the Zone Commander for the South West of British Columbia I can
> > schedule whatever aircraft I like.
> >
>
> Now that's a great title! Someone hung Wing Commander on me quite some
time
> ago, but Zone Commander has by far, more ... swank.
>
> Can foreigners participate in your SaR missions? Either as pilots or
> spotters?
>
> And if a U.S. registered Commander was in your zone, could it be utilized?
> (merely) Wing Commander Gordon
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
> Flight plan-wise, 45 gph for the Lycoming, 55 gph for the Continental.
>
> Wing Commander Gordon
Where the heck have *you* been?
BTW, we had a development weekend down in the desert for a Red Star air
war simulation concept. I brought my 680E for the simulated
AWACS/KC680/Big friggin' target, etc. When I arrived I pulled up right
next to another 680E at TRM (Thermal, CA) that lives there. I forgot to
get the N# and serial # for Sir Barry, sorry. Anyway, on Sunday the
Palm Spring Warbird Museum invited us all over to do some fly bys and a
tour. 680E lead a CJ on each wing into the overhead break on arrival
and taxied up to about 25 onlookers at the Museum ramp. On departure
the CJ's took off and came back around for a low pass (500 ft) and right
as they were over the top of me the tower cleared me for TO. Everything
firewalled, rotate at 80 kts and keep it there, the Commander ROARED up
to meed the CJ's in trail. I followed them back around the right
pattern for 31 right as we rolled in for individual low passes. As I
turned downwind to final and pushed the nose over, I pushed the
throttles back up with 3000 rpm showing on the tach. I was about 100'
AGL when I passed by the museum.....man I wish I could have heard *that*
from the ground. Pulled up from 190 kts indicated and was headed right
for the top of the airspace 2300 AGL when I pushed the nose over (was
tempted to roll it to get back to S&L flight, but I want to keep my
license) and headed for home.
Anyway, 680E is now headed north for a Morris annual....and is still for
sale if anyone is interested. It's a great bird and I hate to see her
go, but I'm not using her alot right now with the 11 week old Mini-B at
home....
Barry Hancock
Red Stars, Inc.
949.300.5510
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes"
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 3/6/03 7:51:29 PM Pacific Standard Time,
radialpower@cox.net writes:
> Anyway, 680E is now headed north for a Morris annual
WOW!! Great story!! thanks for sharing you Commander with the crowd. jb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 3/6/03 7:21:14 PM Pacific Standard Time,
tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes:
> Aircraft registered in the U.S and flying in Canada are not a problem as
> long as they are insured, keep in mind this is not a commercial operation
> it
> is more like a corporate operation paid for by the Federal Government.
>
Tom.
I may have a 560E to bring down from Alaska on a ferry permit. No
insurance, US registered. Any trouble passing through?? Might have enough
range to bypass Canada altogether?? Thanks jb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: MarcioK@aol.com
Excellent, Sir Barry.
As always.
Thanks again
Marcio
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
No insurance?
I'll have to make a call to inquire about that one.
Bypass Canada eh?
Land at Boundary Bay CZBB instead of Vancouver CYVR if you don't bypass
Canada.
Let me know if you need the info.
Tom F.
----- Original Message -----
From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: S&R
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 3/6/03 7:21:14 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes:
>
> > Aircraft registered in the U.S and flying in Canada are not a problem as
> > long as they are insured, keep in mind this is not a commercial
operation
> > it
> > is more like a corporate operation paid for by the Federal Government.
> >
>
> Tom.
>
> I may have a 560E to bring down from Alaska on a ferry permit. No
> insurance, US registered. Any trouble passing through?? Might have
enough
> range to bypass Canada altogether?? Thanks jb
>
>
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