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1. 05:09 AM - Re: 500B 500S (Ricardo A. Otaola)
2. 06:52 AM - Re: He returns! (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
3. 08:01 AM - Re: S&R (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
4. 01:12 PM - Re: nice (short) flight (Bill Williams)
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Ricardo A. Otaola" <otayca@telcel.net.ve>
OK. Sorry about the confusion. Yes I have seen one of those, blue colored. I
will look at the serial number.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martini Luc J.R." <martini@foxinternet.net>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B 500S
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Martini Luc J.R."
<martini@foxinternet.net>
>
> Thanks Recardo.
> The mechanics may well have seen this airplane. However, I believe the
> Dorniers you are referring to are probably the Dornier Do-28 or Do2258's.
>
> The Do27 is a single engine STOL airplane. You can see what they look
like
> at www.do27.com.
>
> Thanks
>
> Luc
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ricardo A. Otaola" <otayca@telcel.net.ve>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B 500S
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Ricardo A. Otaola"
> <otayca@telcel.net.ve>
> >
> > I would not know how to find that particular one. They are used as
> > airliners, and the mechanic knows most of them. I will ask for those
> serials
> > if he has them. But there are several dorniers around.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Martini Luc J.R." <martini@foxinternet.net>
> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B 500S
> >
> >
> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Martini Luc J.R."
> > <martini@foxinternet.net>
> > >
> > > A contact in Venezuela!
> > > Can you do me a BIG BIG favor?
> > > See who currently owns a Dornier Do27-A4, SN-147, last known registry
> was
> > > 4X-AJR, formerly owned by Arnold Reinhard.
> > >
> > > The Do27 used the GO-480 engine like the Commanders (but low
compression
> > > version).
> > >
> > > Would love to be able to contact the current owner.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Luc Martini
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ricardo A. Otaola" <otayca@telcel.net.ve>
> > > To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B 500S
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Ricardo A. Otaola"
> > > <otayca@telcel.net.ve>
> > > >
> > > > Hi there:
> > > >
> > > > If you come to Venezuela, I will be very offended if you do not
> contact
> > > me.
> > > > I will be more than happy to take you around and see all commanders
> > > around,
> > > > particularly my 680F, a unique piece.
> > > >
> > > > 582129930622 ext 203 or portable 011584143334000
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
> > > > To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> > > > Subject: Commander-List: 500B 500S
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
> > > > >
> > > > > HI KIDS.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have had a great couple of weeks. I fly a 560F
from
> El
> > > > Paso,
> > > > > TX to Panama. Went from El Paso direct to Paure viarta. Then to
> > > Acapulco
> > > > to
> > > > > spend the night. All three gas caps were stolen there!! I duct
> taped
> > > the
> > > > > openings and we were off to Tapachula to clear customs. The tape
> did
> > > not
> > > > > work. You could literately watch the gas gauges go down!! The
aux
> > > tanks
> > > > > were empty before we reached 5000 (so much for the anti siphon
> caps!!)
> > > > > We left with 223 gallons and barley made 200nm, landed with
> 20
> > > > > gallons. Our next stop was Ilopango, El Salvidor, 200nm away. I
> > taped
> > > > the
> > > > > main tank and installed a small aluminum angle just in front of
the
> > cap
> > > > and
> > > > > an air dam. I worked, kinda. Still lost some gas, but mad the
trip
> > > > > comfortably. The broker traveling with me knew a friend there and
> we
> > > > > borrowed a cap from his Navajo aux tank for the main and a couple
> from
> > > his
> > > > > homebuilt Midget Mustang for the aux tanks. These were the
"thermos
> > > > bottle"
> > > > > type, but fit nice and tight. I loosened a couple of the screws
> that
> > > hold
> > > > > the filler ring to the wing and ran some safety wire across the
cap
> > just
> > > > to
> > > > > make sure, it worked!!
> > > > > We fueled and headed for Panama, 4.5 away. Made the trip
in
> > 3.9
> > > > and
> > > > > didn't loose a drop. Flew right over the Panama Canal in rout to
> the
> > > > airport.
> > > > > I will write a much more detailed story for the next
> > newsletter.
> > > > > I was home less that 30 hours and left for California to
sigh
> > off
> > > a
> > > > > couple of annuals for MorisK. Did a 500S (nicest piston Commander
I
> > can
> > > > > remember) and TCFG member Jimmy Rodreguies 500B, S/N 1. Jimmy
sent
> > his
> > > > > mechanic, Jose, from San Juan to learn to speak "Commanderiees" He
> > > already
> > > > > speaks Spanish and English. We had a blast. I got to deliver
TCFG
> > > member
> > > > > John Vormbaums 17000tt 500B to him in Palo Alto. Got to ride home
> in
> > > the
> > > > > back seat, John is a great Commander pilot.
> > > > > Then I delivered the 500S (The thing flew like butter) to
> it's
> > > home
> > > > in
> > > > > Concord. Had a chance to see my next project airplane up close,
the
> > > 680FP
> > > > > All in all it was a great couple of weeks. I may have an
> opportunity
> > to
> > > > > deliver another 500B to Venezuela next week, we shall see. Hope
all
> > is
> > > > well
> > > > > in your "Commanderland" jb
> > > > >
> > > > > PS Remember that the TCAC flyin is this month in Scottsdale, AZ
I
> > will
> > > > be
> > > > > flying triple 2 there with Barry Collman. It is the 27 th through
> the
> > > > 30th.
> > > > > Call 360-435-9797 to register, it is a great time. jb
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" <rcdettmer@charter.net>
Hey Barry,
Really enjoyed the story of your Palm Springs adventure...sounded like great
fun.
Randy Dettmer
680F/N6253X
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Hancock" <radialpower@cox.net>
Subject: Commander-List: He returns!
> --> Commander-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
>
> > Flight plan-wise, 45 gph for the Lycoming, 55 gph for the Continental.
> >
> > Wing Commander Gordon
>
> Where the heck have *you* been?
>
> BTW, we had a development weekend down in the desert for a Red Star air
> war simulation concept. I brought my 680E for the simulated
> AWACS/KC680/Big friggin' target, etc. When I arrived I pulled up right
> next to another 680E at TRM (Thermal, CA) that lives there. I forgot to
> get the N# and serial # for Sir Barry, sorry. Anyway, on Sunday the
> Palm Spring Warbird Museum invited us all over to do some fly bys and a
> tour. 680E lead a CJ on each wing into the overhead break on arrival
> and taxied up to about 25 onlookers at the Museum ramp. On departure
> the CJ's took off and came back around for a low pass (500 ft) and right
> as they were over the top of me the tower cleared me for TO. Everything
> firewalled, rotate at 80 kts and keep it there, the Commander ROARED up
> to meed the CJ's in trail. I followed them back around the right
> pattern for 31 right as we rolled in for individual low passes. As I
> turned downwind to final and pushed the nose over, I pushed the
> throttles back up with 3000 rpm showing on the tach. I was about 100'
> AGL when I passed by the museum.....man I wish I could have heard *that*
> from the ground. Pulled up from 190 kts indicated and was headed right
> for the top of the airspace 2300 AGL when I pushed the nose over (was
> tempted to roll it to get back to S&L flight, but I want to keep my
> license) and headed for home.
>
> Anyway, 680E is now headed north for a Morris annual....and is still for
> sale if anyone is interested. It's a great bird and I hate to see her
> go, but I'm not using her alot right now with the 11 week old Mini-B at
> home....
> Barry Hancock
> Red Stars, Inc.
> 949.300.5510
> www.allredstar.com
> "Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes"
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 3/6/03 8:41:33 PM Pacific Standard Time,
tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes:
> Let me know if you need the info.
>
Thanks, will do. jb
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| Subject: | nice (short) flight |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Williams" <billw@air-matrix.com>
Randy Dettmer:
If you're coming to the Seattle area, we'd be happy to host you at
Arlington (AWO). We can hangar your 680F and provide a loaner car to get
you to Ballard. Roach Harbor is only about a 12 minute flight away. Let
us know if we can help.
Bill Williams
AirMatrix
17705 49th Place N.E., Hangar D
Arlington, WA 98223-7898
tel: 360-435-7343
fax: 360-435-8193
billw@air-matrix.com
www.air-matrix.com
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