---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/07/03: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:09 AM - Re: 500B 500S (Ricardo A. Otaola) 2. 06:52 AM - Re: He returns! (Randy Dettmer, AIA) 3. 08:01 AM - Re: S&R (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 4. 01:12 PM - Re: nice (short) flight (Bill Williams) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:09:13 AM PST US From: "Ricardo A. Otaola" Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B 500S --> Commander-List message posted by: "Ricardo A. Otaola" OK. Sorry about the confusion. Yes I have seen one of those, blue colored. I will look at the serial number. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martini Luc J.R." Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B 500S > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Martini Luc J.R." > > Thanks Recardo. > The mechanics may well have seen this airplane. However, I believe the > Dorniers you are referring to are probably the Dornier Do-28 or Do2258's. > > The Do27 is a single engine STOL airplane. You can see what they look like > at www.do27.com. > > Thanks > > Luc > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ricardo A. Otaola" > To: > Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B 500S > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Ricardo A. Otaola" > > > > > I would not know how to find that particular one. They are used as > > airliners, and the mechanic knows most of them. I will ask for those > serials > > if he has them. But there are several dorniers around. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Martini Luc J.R." > > To: > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B 500S > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Martini Luc J.R." > > > > > > > > A contact in Venezuela! > > > Can you do me a BIG BIG favor? > > > See who currently owns a Dornier Do27-A4, SN-147, last known registry > was > > > 4X-AJR, formerly owned by Arnold Reinhard. > > > > > > The Do27 used the GO-480 engine like the Commanders (but low compression > > > version). > > > > > > Would love to be able to contact the current owner. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Luc Martini > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Ricardo A. Otaola" > > > To: > > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B 500S > > > > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Ricardo A. Otaola" > > > > > > > > > > > Hi there: > > > > > > > > If you come to Venezuela, I will be very offended if you do not > contact > > > me. > > > > I will be more than happy to take you around and see all commanders > > > around, > > > > particularly my 680F, a unique piece. > > > > > > > > 582129930622 ext 203 or portable 011584143334000 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: > > > > To: > > > > Subject: Commander-List: 500B 500S > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > > > > > > > > > > HI KIDS. > > > > > > > > > > I have had a great couple of weeks. I fly a 560F from > El > > > > Paso, > > > > > TX to Panama. Went from El Paso direct to Paure viarta. Then to > > > Acapulco > > > > to > > > > > spend the night. All three gas caps were stolen there!! I duct > taped > > > the > > > > > openings and we were off to Tapachula to clear customs. The tape > did > > > not > > > > > work. You could literately watch the gas gauges go down!! The aux > > > tanks > > > > > were empty before we reached 5000 (so much for the anti siphon > caps!!) > > > > > We left with 223 gallons and barley made 200nm, landed with > 20 > > > > > gallons. Our next stop was Ilopango, El Salvidor, 200nm away. I > > taped > > > > the > > > > > main tank and installed a small aluminum angle just in front of the > > cap > > > > and > > > > > an air dam. I worked, kinda. Still lost some gas, but mad the trip > > > > > comfortably. The broker traveling with me knew a friend there and > we > > > > > borrowed a cap from his Navajo aux tank for the main and a couple > from > > > his > > > > > homebuilt Midget Mustang for the aux tanks. These were the "thermos > > > > bottle" > > > > > type, but fit nice and tight. I loosened a couple of the screws > that > > > hold > > > > > the filler ring to the wing and ran some safety wire across the cap > > just > > > > to > > > > > make sure, it worked!! > > > > > We fueled and headed for Panama, 4.5 away. Made the trip in > > 3.9 > > > > and > > > > > didn't loose a drop. Flew right over the Panama Canal in rout to > the > > > > airport. > > > > > I will write a much more detailed story for the next > > newsletter. > > > > > I was home less that 30 hours and left for California to sigh > > off > > > a > > > > > couple of annuals for MorisK. Did a 500S (nicest piston Commander I > > can > > > > > remember) and TCFG member Jimmy Rodreguies 500B, S/N 1. Jimmy sent > > his > > > > > mechanic, Jose, from San Juan to learn to speak "Commanderiees" He > > > already > > > > > speaks Spanish and English. We had a blast. I got to deliver TCFG > > > member > > > > > John Vormbaums 17000tt 500B to him in Palo Alto. Got to ride home > in > > > the > > > > > back seat, John is a great Commander pilot. > > > > > Then I delivered the 500S (The thing flew like butter) to > it's > > > home > > > > in > > > > > Concord. Had a chance to see my next project airplane up close, the > > > 680FP > > > > > All in all it was a great couple of weeks. I may have an > opportunity > > to > > > > > deliver another 500B to Venezuela next week, we shall see. Hope all > > is > > > > well > > > > > in your "Commanderland" jb > > > > > > > > > > PS Remember that the TCAC flyin is this month in Scottsdale, AZ I > > will > > > > be > > > > > flying triple 2 there with Barry Collman. It is the 27 th through > the > > > > 30th. > > > > > Call 360-435-9797 to register, it is a great time. jb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:58 AM PST US From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Subject: Re: Commander-List: He returns! --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Hey Barry, Really enjoyed the story of your Palm Springs adventure...sounded like great fun. Randy Dettmer 680F/N6253X ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Hancock" Subject: Commander-List: He returns! > --> Commander-List message posted by: Barry Hancock > > > Flight plan-wise, 45 gph for the Lycoming, 55 gph for the Continental. > > > > Wing Commander Gordon > > Where the heck have *you* been? > > BTW, we had a development weekend down in the desert for a Red Star air > war simulation concept. I brought my 680E for the simulated > AWACS/KC680/Big friggin' target, etc. When I arrived I pulled up right > next to another 680E at TRM (Thermal, CA) that lives there. I forgot to > get the N# and serial # for Sir Barry, sorry. Anyway, on Sunday the > Palm Spring Warbird Museum invited us all over to do some fly bys and a > tour. 680E lead a CJ on each wing into the overhead break on arrival > and taxied up to about 25 onlookers at the Museum ramp. On departure > the CJ's took off and came back around for a low pass (500 ft) and right > as they were over the top of me the tower cleared me for TO. Everything > firewalled, rotate at 80 kts and keep it there, the Commander ROARED up > to meed the CJ's in trail. I followed them back around the right > pattern for 31 right as we rolled in for individual low passes. As I > turned downwind to final and pushed the nose over, I pushed the > throttles back up with 3000 rpm showing on the tach. I was about 100' > AGL when I passed by the museum.....man I wish I could have heard *that* > from the ground. Pulled up from 190 kts indicated and was headed right > for the top of the airspace 2300 AGL when I pushed the nose over (was > tempted to roll it to get back to S&L flight, but I want to keep my > license) and headed for home. > > Anyway, 680E is now headed north for a Morris annual....and is still for > sale if anyone is interested. It's a great bird and I hate to see her > go, but I'm not using her alot right now with the 11 week old Mini-B at > home.... > Barry Hancock > Red Stars, Inc. > 949.300.5510 > www.allredstar.com > "Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes" > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:54 AM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: S&R --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 3/6/03 8:41:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes: > Let me know if you need the info. > Thanks, will do. jb ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:12:36 PM PST US From: "Bill Williams" Subject: RE: Commander-List: nice (short) flight --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Williams" Randy Dettmer: If you're coming to the Seattle area, we'd be happy to host you at Arlington (AWO). We can hangar your 680F and provide a loaner car to get you to Ballard. Roach Harbor is only about a 12 minute flight away. Let us know if we can help. Bill Williams AirMatrix 17705 49th Place N.E., Hangar D Arlington, WA 98223-7898 tel: 360-435-7343 fax: 360-435-8193 billw@air-matrix.com www.air-matrix.com