Commander-List Digest Archive

Sat 03/08/03


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 06:04 PM - Re: GO-480 GIB6 (Howard Windham)
     2. 06:39 PM - Re: GO-480 GIB6 (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
     3. 06:42 PM - Gone again (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
     4. 07:28 PM - 560F salvage auction (Patrick Nickles)
     5. 07:57 PM - Re: 560F salvage auction (Bill Hamilton)
     6. 08:19 PM - Re: 560F salvage auction (CloudCraft@aol.com)
     7. 08:46 PM - Re: 560F salvage auction (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
     8. 09:04 PM - Re: 560F salvage auction (CloudCraft@aol.com)
     9. 10:20 PM - Re: 560F salvage auction (Nico van Niekerk)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:04:22 PM PST US
    From: "Howard Windham" <bw_cycon@yahoo.com>
    Subject: GO-480 GIB6
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Howard Windham" <bw_cycon@yahoo.com> Jimbo, a good lead. I talked to the guy tonight and will get more infor as to the quality of the rebuild. He's in your neck of the woods in Roseburg, Oregan RBG. If this pans out would you be willing to visit the engine and snoop around a little for a modest fee, (heavy on the modest, just kidding) -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: GO-480 GIB6 --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com HI KIDS. Saw this ad. If it is a good OH, it is a great price!! GO-480 GIB6 (295hp 560A HC, or E) 1373TT, "0" SMOH 24V accessories and PS-5 carb $15000 541-496-0048 Good luck jb direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.


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    Time: 06:39:03 PM PST US
    From: YOURTCFG@aol.com
    Subject: Re: GO-480 GIB6
    --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 3/8/03 6:04:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, bw_cycon@yahoo.com writes: > snoop around a little for a modest fee, (heavy on the > modest, just kidding) > I will be happy to "snoop", but no fee !! Glad to help. jb


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    Time: 06:42:19 PM PST US
    From: YOURTCFG@aol.com
    Subject: Gone again
    --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com HI KIDS. If all goes well, I will be spending Wednesday eve in Kingston Jamaica after flying a 500B from Virginia to there. The next day, we will press on to the last stop, Cartagene Columbia. Hope you all have a great week in Commanderland. jb


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    Time: 07:28:37 PM PST US
    From: "Patrick Nickles" <aerocommander@nickles.cc>
    Subject: 560F salvage auction
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Patrick Nickles" <aerocommander@nickles.cc> Just in case any 560F owners out there might be interested in some spare parts, I stumbled across N201KS this evening. http://www.salvagesale.com/ShowOffer.asp?OfferID=11955 Patrick Nickles


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    Time: 07:57:03 PM PST US
    From: Bill Hamilton <fighterf@ozemail.com.au>
    Subject: Re: 560F salvage auction
    --> Commander-List message posted by: Bill Hamilton <fighterf@ozemail.com.au> All, What a sad end to what was obviously a very nice aircraft. From the upper wing panel access plate removed, was it a fuel leak, the hard line ringed is not a fuel line. Regards, Bill Hamilton. At 10:26 PM 8/03/03 -0500, you wrote: >--> Commander-List message posted by: "Patrick Nickles" ><aerocommander@nickles.cc> > >Just in case any 560F owners out there might be interested in some spare >parts, I stumbled across N201KS this evening. > > >http://www.salvagesale.com/ShowOffer.asp?OfferID=11955 > > >Patrick Nickles > >


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    Time: 08:19:08 PM PST US
    From: CloudCraft@aol.com
    Subject: Re: 560F salvage auction
    --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com In a message dated 03/08/03 19:57:34 Pacific Standard Time, fighterf@ozemail.com.au writes: > What a sad end to what was obviously a very nice aircraft. > From the upper wing panel access plate removed, was it a fuel leak, the > hard line ringed is not a fuel line. > Bill, Hydraulic line. Looking at the images, could the runway over-run have been due to no brakes on touch down due to hydraulic loss? If so, that was the wrong runway to use. (Unless fuel level was as low as the hydraulic fluid.) Another anomaly. One photo shows the parking brake lever in the set position. A habit by the pilot, during egress? Or was it set at landing? Remember, when the Commander parking brake is set, the brakes are isolated from the rest of the hydraulic system. That means no pressure would get to them no matter how hard you mash on the pedals. This is also relevant when starting engines with the parking brake set. With low brake pressure at the calipers, there may not be enough pressure to hold the aircraft with an engine(s) running. I prefer to hold 'em myself and not use the parking brake. Wing Commander Gordon


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    Time: 08:46:29 PM PST US
    From: YOURTCFG@aol.com
    Subject: Re: 560F salvage auction
    --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 3/8/03 7:29:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, aerocommander@nickles.cc writes: > Just in case any 560F owners out there might be interested in some spare > parts, I stumbled across N201KS this evening. > A drug runner perhaps. No seats, front door, grass strip, Night landing? Hummmmmm?? jb


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    Time: 09:04:47 PM PST US
    From: CloudCraft@aol.com
    Subject: Re: 560F salvage auction
    --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com In a message dated 03/08/03 20:46:53 Pacific Standard Time, YOURTCFG@aol.com writes: > A drug runner perhaps. No seats, front door, grass strip, Night landing? > Hummmmmm?? jb Too far north. Obviously smuggling black market soy beans. Or genetically engineered corn. Wing Commander Gordon


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    Time: 10:20:59 PM PST US
    From: "Nico van Niekerk" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
    Subject: Re: 560F salvage auction
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Nico van Niekerk" <nico@cybersuperstore.com> Where do you get to see the photos? Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: <CloudCraft@aol.com> Subject: Re: Commander-List: 560F salvage auction > --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com > > In a message dated 03/08/03 19:57:34 Pacific Standard Time, > fighterf@ozemail.com.au writes: > > > > What a sad end to what was obviously a very nice aircraft. > > From the upper wing panel access plate removed, was it a fuel leak, the > > hard line ringed is not a fuel line. > > > > Bill, > > Hydraulic line. > > Looking at the images, could the runway over-run have been due to no brakes > on touch down due to hydraulic loss? > > If so, that was the wrong runway to use. (Unless fuel level was as low as > the hydraulic fluid.) > > Another anomaly. One photo shows the parking brake lever in the set > position. A habit by the pilot, during egress? Or was it set at landing? > > Remember, when the Commander parking brake is set, the brakes are isolated > from the rest of the hydraulic system. That means no pressure would get to > them no matter how hard you mash on the pedals. > > This is also relevant when starting engines with the parking brake set. With > low brake pressure at the calipers, there may not be enough pressure to hold > the aircraft with an engine(s) running. > > I prefer to hold 'em myself and not use the parking brake. > > Wing Commander Gordon > >




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