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1. 12:27 AM - Re: 560F salvage auction (Nico van Niekerk)
2. 04:43 AM - Re: Re: Commander-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 03/06/03 (Gary Kromer)
3. 04:45 AM - Re: Re: Commander-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 03/06/03 (Gary Kromer)
4. 05:34 AM - Re: Gone again (Jimmy Rodriguez)
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| Subject: | Re: 560F salvage auction |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Nico van Niekerk" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Hey, where do you guys get to view the photos?
I checked the photoshare but there are only photos of the other lists and I
con't want to look at microlights.
Please advise.
Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: 560F salvage auction
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
<barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
>
> Hi gang,
>
> N201KS was damaged at a private strip at Thorndale, Ontario, Canada, on
August
> 20th 2002.
>
> This is what the pilot reported:
>
> "I recently had Cleveland brakes and wheels installed on my 560F. On
take-off
> the brakes apparently, dragged, heated up and locked. I ended up in corn
field
> about 100' off the end of the grass strip. I did not notice the brakes
dragging
> during taxing and on a few high speed runs (up to 50 mph). I am at a loss
to
> explain how the brakes came on. One possibility I thought of was that I
had not
> pushed the plunger type parking brake release all the way in, so after the
> accident I, asked a mechanic to check it and it was all the way in.
> I was wondering if the hydraulic valve that sets the park brake and is
actuated
> by the plunger is capable of allowing a small amount of pressure on the
brakes
> or is it an 'all or nothing' valve. The plane sustained significant damage
and I
> was injured when the windscreen shattered."
>
> Barry C.
> UK
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Commander-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 03/06/03 |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Gary Kromer" <service@commander-aero.com>
You are a dog, Chris. We need to go out to HOOTER's and have a few more
cocktails.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Wall" <cwall@worldflight2000.com>
Subject: Commander-List: RE: Commander-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 03/06/03
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Chris Wall"
<cwall@worldflight2000.com>
>
> Glad to see everybody chatting things up again.
>
> I left Houston last Sunday to head up to Commander Aero to do a prebuy
> inspection on N333BE a beautiful 500A colemill conversion with all the
> mods and brand new props. After looking at it for about a day I came to
> the conclusion that it was not the right airplane for the person I was
> working for. There is some hail damage and a repair done on the belly
> that wasn't the prettiest but was structural sound and actually well
> done, but the person that was looking at buying it wants to make the
> airplane perfect and these items could not be easily overcome.
>
> So on to plan II, I rented a car and headed for Chattanooga, TN to look
> at another 500A Colemill that Gadburry had for sale. N152K turned out
> to be a very clean airplane with a great pedigree. It was operated as a
> corporate airplane for the first 2 years of its life and then has been
> owned by the same family for the last 37 years! I still found quite the
> list of little squaks, and the airplane is headed to Commander Aero on
> Monday to get everything up to speed.
>
> Then I made the terribly long drive back to Ohio to return the rental
> car,(I sure wish I had gotten a one way rental car because then I could
> have flown the plane back up there, so much for planning ahead).
> Another potential buyer was looking at N333BE at the same time I was on
> Monday and went for a test flight in the plane with Kevin Coons on
> Tuesday morning. So I spent Friday finishing up the prebuy inspection
> on N333BE for the other potential buyer I meet there on Monday, if you
> can look past the hail damage it is a great airplane. Now I am headed
> back to Houston spend the weekend finishing up a 560A which I hope to
> deliver to California very soon. There are two new commander owners
> this week and hopefully two new flight group members, with a little arm
> twisting.
>
> I must say that the purchase of 152K from Gary Gadburry has gone very
> smoothly, he was up front about the known problems with the airplane and
> treated me very well while I was in Chattanooga. Thanks also to John
> Bosch and Gary Kromer for the help while I was up in Dayton.
>
> Just so you all know Kromer is on the chatlist and knows about as much
> as anybody about these planes. I think he is just a little shy which
> might explain why he doesn't speak up on the chatlist, either that or he
> is a selfish bastard. Maybe a little peer pressure might get him to
> share some of his brilliance with the rest of us. Kromer, if I launch
> enough insults eventually you will have to speak up and defend yourself.
>
> cwall
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Commander-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 03/06/03 |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Gary Kromer" <service@commander-aero.com>
Will do Jerry!
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "J.R. Sprayberry" <capnspray@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: RE: Commander-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 03/06/03
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "J.R. Sprayberry"
<capnspray@hotmail.com>
>
> I agree about Gary He should stand up and give us his opinion on some of
> these maintenance issues, Gary you were taught by the best, Dick
Wartinger.
> we love you guy's at Commander Aero, HELP US KEEP THESE WONDERFUL
AIRPLANES
> FLYING.
> Regards: Jerry Sprayberry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Wall" <cwall@worldflight2000.com>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Commander-List: RE: Commander-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 03/06/03
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Chris Wall"
> <cwall@worldflight2000.com>
> >
> > Glad to see everybody chatting things up again.
> >
> > I left Houston last Sunday to head up to Commander Aero to do a prebuy
> > inspection on N333BE a beautiful 500A colemill conversion with all the
> > mods and brand new props. After looking at it for about a day I came to
> > the conclusion that it was not the right airplane for the person I was
> > working for. There is some hail damage and a repair done on the belly
> > that wasn't the prettiest but was structural sound and actually well
> > done, but the person that was looking at buying it wants to make the
> > airplane perfect and these items could not be easily overcome.
> >
> > So on to plan II, I rented a car and headed for Chattanooga, TN to look
> > at another 500A Colemill that Gadburry had for sale. N152K turned out
> > to be a very clean airplane with a great pedigree. It was operated as a
> > corporate airplane for the first 2 years of its life and then has been
> > owned by the same family for the last 37 years! I still found quite the
> > list of little squaks, and the airplane is headed to Commander Aero on
> > Monday to get everything up to speed.
> >
> > Then I made the terribly long drive back to Ohio to return the rental
> > car,(I sure wish I had gotten a one way rental car because then I could
> > have flown the plane back up there, so much for planning ahead).
> > Another potential buyer was looking at N333BE at the same time I was on
> > Monday and went for a test flight in the plane with Kevin Coons on
> > Tuesday morning. So I spent Friday finishing up the prebuy inspection
> > on N333BE for the other potential buyer I meet there on Monday, if you
> > can look past the hail damage it is a great airplane. Now I am headed
> > back to Houston spend the weekend finishing up a 560A which I hope to
> > deliver to California very soon. There are two new commander owners
> > this week and hopefully two new flight group members, with a little arm
> > twisting.
> >
> > I must say that the purchase of 152K from Gary Gadburry has gone very
> > smoothly, he was up front about the known problems with the airplane and
> > treated me very well while I was in Chattanooga. Thanks also to John
> > Bosch and Gary Kromer for the help while I was up in Dayton.
> >
> > Just so you all know Kromer is on the chatlist and knows about as much
> > as anybody about these planes. I think he is just a little shy which
> > might explain why he doesn't speak up on the chatlist, either that or he
> > is a selfish bastard. Maybe a little peer pressure might get him to
> > share some of his brilliance with the rest of us. Kromer, if I launch
> > enough insults eventually you will have to speak up and defend yourself.
> >
> > cwall
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jimmy Rodriguez" <jimmyr@popsecs.com>
Captain Jimbob,
Let me know what kind of performance you get on your trip down there. I'll
use the info to plan for mine.
Best Regards,
Jimmy Rodriguez
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
YOURTCFG@aol.com
Subject: Commander-List: Gone again
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
HI KIDS.
If all goes well, I will be spending Wednesday eve in
Kingston Jamaica after flying a 500B from Virginia to there. The next day,
we will press on to the last stop, Cartagene Columbia.
Hope you all have a great week in Commanderland. jb
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