---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 03/22/03: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:33 AM - Re: Re:Commanders at Lantana (Barry Collman) 2. 10:41 AM - Milt (Bill Bow) 3. 12:57 PM - sir barry - commanders at lantana, florida (alh1@juno.com) 4. 03:02 PM - Re: TWIN COMMANDER UNIVERSITY (todd@inpnet.org) 5. 06:07 PM - Re: TWIN COMMANDER UNIVERSITY (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 6. 06:59 PM - 7-Day Matronics List Browse Enhancement... (Matt Dralle) 7. 07:30 PM - Noise (Barry Hancock) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:33:33 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re:Commanders at Lantana --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Hi Al, Apologies for not getting back to you sooner, but I've been busy preparing for the research trip to Twin Commander, as I leave here next Tuesday. I've attached the history of N6289B, serial number 676. Can I raise one question with you? You say the all-white fuselage is probably N3824C, but I have no record of any accident. Is this the same aircraft as the guy saw last year? If so, was it corrosion which caused its demise? It is serial number 697, which was owned by Candy Yellow Apple Inc., until it was sold to Hartford Holding Corp., on August 3rd 1998. The green primer one, if it is N303H, is a Model 560F, serial number 1312-62. Thanks again for your help Al, it is much appreciated. Very Best Regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Commander-List: Re:Commanders at Lantana | --> Commander-List message posted by: alh1@juno.com | | barry, i went back to the airport and it looks like the commanders have been busy at night because there are a few new ones on the field that i have not mentioned in the past. two of them do not have an installed serial plate. the one in primer has been on the field for at least 10 years without flying. i am told the n number is n303H. it is either a 500a or b, but i did not look at the engines so i am not sure. the next one is a 500 and jim has the serial plate. the number is either n722wr or n58me. in any event it is undergoing a complete restoration and will be beautiful when finished and will be n58me for the owner, marine exhaust. | | the third one i do not believe i have mentioned before is without an n number but has a serial plate. i am told the n number ends in 56B, but the serial plate is 808 and it is a 500. we have n6289b, n628AH (formerly n6287B) n58E and a 500a it has continental engines) n 10ME | (it is also being restored)(the s/n plate says 00A-900-9) and 58ME in the hangar. | | outside we have 24c, 89m, 41C and 56B. those are in various stages of repair. 56B does not have the n number on the aircraft and is blue and white. it has a s/n | | n10me does not have the n number on the aircraft and is also a blue and white bird. it has a s/n. | | n303 h and n58me do not have n numbers on them nor do they have s/n plates. as i said, 303 h is in primer, zinc chromate and n58me is white with green and pink island colors. | | hope some of this helps. we have almost completed a kevlar nose cone for the 500 and an upper and lower cowling in kevlar for the 500. they are beautiful. jim schiller at lantana, florida is one of the most knowledgeable mechanics in the country. | | let me know if you need more information. do you have the ownership history of n6289b handy and it is a corrosion free aircraft that we should have ready for sale in about 60 days. | | al hoffman | | | h | | | | | | ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:41:53 AM PST US From: "Bill Bow" Subject: Commander-List: Milt --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" Milt, 2 more e-mails returned today. bilbo ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:57:09 PM PST US Subject: Commander-List: sir barry - commanders at lantana, florida From: alh1@juno.com --> Commander-List message posted by: alh1@juno.com dear barry, you are correct, 3824C is no more. it was scrapped because of the cracks in the spar. it had the wings removed and was white when your friend saw it. it is no longer on the field. this is #2 500 with a spar crack, but it was high time and flew to the islands constantly. n303H is in primer and still on the field, but has not flown to my knowledge for at least ten years. anything else, always glad to help. al hoffman ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:02:52 PM PST US From: "todd@inpnet.org" Subject: RE: Commander-List: TWIN COMMANDER UNIVERSITY --> Commander-List message posted by: "todd@inpnet.org" I scheduled to go and paid the fee but it looks like I might not make it due to work needs. Since my plane is still getting its annual done I will have to fly commercial if I do go. Hope to see you there. Todd Original Message: ----------------- From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: TWIN COMMANDER UNIVERSITY --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com HI KIDS. I was just wondering if anybody is going to Scottsdale?? Barry Colman and I will be there (Weather permitting for me). Moe, will you make it this year?? jb ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:20 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: TWIN COMMANDER UNIVERSITY --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 3/22/03 3:03:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, todd@inpnet.org writes: > Hope to see you there. > > Todd Me to.. jb ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:09 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Commander-List: 7-Day Matronics List Browse Enhancement... --> Commander-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Listers, Neil Hulin of the Zenith-List at Matronics wrote to me suggesting I add a "total of available messages" column to the 7-Day List Browse Main page, and it seemed like a great idea! I've made the modifications and I think many will find it extremely helpful as well. Have a look at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse/ Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin... Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:30:53 PM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Noise From: Barry Hancock --> Commander-List message posted by: Barry Hancock Hi gang, There's a new company out that is doing ANR cabins. Looks like an awesome idea.... http://www.quietflight-llc.com/ I spoke with the guy this morning...very professional. He said a 4 place system runs about $7K. My big question is this. He had problems doing a 560 because of the huge number of noise spikes due to the geared motors, firing sequence, props, etc. Am I correct in assuming that I would have the same issues in the 680E? I know some of you techies out there might be able to help.... Thanks in advance for your input! BTW, flew 680E up to Morris' new place the other day. I'm looking forward to getting the annual/100 hr./sqwaks done, AND it looks like I have some interest in a partnership....gulp....again. However, I'm much more comfortable entering a partnership again after receiving my Masters in Airplane Partnerships for the P.O. School of Deception and Dishonesty. Cheers, Barry