---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/23/03: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:14 AM - Re: Noise (Patrick Nickles) 2. 05:21 AM - Re: Noise (Buddy Windham) 3. 05:25 AM - Re: Noise (Buddy Windham) 4. 10:30 AM - Re: TWIN COMMANDER UNIVERSITY (Kerry Johnson) 5. 03:06 PM - Re: TWIN COMMANDER UNIVERSITY (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 6. 06:02 PM - Re: TWIN COMMANDER UNIVERSITY (CloudCraft@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:14:47 AM PST US From: "Patrick Nickles" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Noise --> Commander-List message posted by: "Patrick Nickles" Hi Barry - I had QuietFlight installed in my single-engine Commander last summer and it was money well spent. I don't know how well it would work in the different Twin Commander models, but in my baby Commander it works as advertised. The cockpit IS more quiet, BUT I believe the most important factor is the vibration reduction which significantly lowers overall pilot fatigue. (I emailed him after buying the system and he posted my comments on his website. No, I don't have any ownership interest in the product - I just know that I plan to have the system installed in any future aircraft I might own (i.e. hopefully a Twin Commander in the near future.)) Patrick ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:37 AM PST US From: Buddy Windham Subject: Re: Commander-List: Noise --> Commander-List message posted by: Buddy Windham Hey Barry, I'm the 560 you mentioned in your email. The problems do exist and you will have a problem with your 680. I'm also the dealer in Michigan. As of this date they do not have an effective 6 seat system using one controller. They would have to sell you two systems. As to doing your plane my advise is to wait a while and see if the program problems can be corrected. Barry Hancock wrote:--> Commander-List message posted by: Barry Hancock Hi gang, There's a new company out that is doing ANR cabins. Looks like an awesome idea.... http://www.quietflight-llc.com/ I spoke with the guy this morning...very professional. He said a 4 place system runs about $7K. My big question is this. He had problems doing a 560 because of the huge number of noise spikes due to the geared motors, firing sequence, props, etc. Am I correct in assuming that I would have the same issues in the 680E? I know some of you techies out there might be able to help.... Thanks in advance for your input! BTW, flew 680E up to Morris' new place the other day. I'm looking forward to getting the annual/100 hr./sqwaks done, AND it looks like I have some interest in a partnership....gulp....again. However, I'm much more comfortable entering a partnership again after receiving my Masters in Airplane Partnerships for the P.O. School of Deception and Dishonesty. Cheers, Barry Buddy Windham, President Cycon Enterprises, Inc. General Contractors/Construction Management/Design Build Services 0-608 Quincy Street S.W. Grandville, Michigan 49418 616 896-6488 office 616 896-6490 fax --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:25:10 AM PST US From: Buddy Windham Subject: Re: Commander-List: Noise --> Commander-List message posted by: Buddy Windham Pat, the system will work in a 500 series, non geared motors, but only in a four seat configuration.There are problems(programing) doing a 6 seat, single controller unit. Patrick Nickles wrote:--> Commander-List message posted by: "Patrick Nickles" Hi Barry - I had QuietFlight installed in my single-engine Commander last summer and it was money well spent. I don't know how well it would work in the different Twin Commander models, but in my baby Commander it works as advertised. The cockpit IS more quiet, BUT I believe the most important factor is the vibration reduction which significantly lowers overall pilot fatigue. (I emailed him after buying the system and he posted my comments on his website. No, I don't have any ownership interest in the product - I just know that I plan to have the system installed in any future aircraft I might own (i.e. hopefully a Twin Commander in the near future.)) Patrick Buddy Windham, President Cycon Enterprises, Inc. General Contractors/Construction Management/Design Build Services 0-608 Quincy Street S.W. Grandville, Michigan 49418 616 896-6488 office 616 896-6490 fax --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:30:59 AM PST US From: "Kerry Johnson" Subject: RE: Commander-List: TWIN COMMANDER UNIVERSITY --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" I must have missed the announcement, when and where will this even be held? KJ -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: TWIN COMMANDER UNIVERSITY --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com HI KIDS. I was just wondering if anybody is going to Scottsdale?? Barry Colman and I will be there (Weather permitting for me). Moe, will you make it this year?? jb ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:06:27 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: TWIN COMMANDER UNIVERSITY --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 3/23/03 10:31:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, kerry@kvelectric.com writes: > com> > > I must have missed the announcement, when and where will this even be held? Scottsdale AZ, the 27 -29th. John Bosch (Commander Aero), Barry Collman and myself will be there. I havent heard from anybody else. Last time, Moe Mills, Andrew Foss, Dan Domingues, Chris Wall, Morris Kernick, John Vormbaum and a couple of other members made it, but this has been a tough year for many of us so?? Hope you can make it. jb ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:54 PM PST US From: CloudCraft@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: TWIN COMMANDER UNIVERSITY --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com In a message dated 03/23/03 15:07:05 Pacific Standard Time, YOURTCFG@aol.com writes: > Scottsdale AZ, the 27 -29th. John Bosch (Commander Aero), Barry Collman and > > myself will be there. I havent heard from anybody else. Last time, Moe > Mills, Andrew Foss, Dan Domingues, Chris Wall, Morris Kernick, John > Vormbaum > and a couple of other members made it I'm in re-current training on those dates. (and more) Wish I could be there, and no, I can't get out of it to go fool around in Scottsdale. Wing Commander Gordon