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1. 08:55 AM - COMMANDER U (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
2. 04:12 PM - exhaust pipes (Ricardo A. Otaola)
3. 04:37 PM - Re: exhaust pipes (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
4. 04:59 PM - Re: exhaust pipes (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
5. 05:27 PM - Re: exhaust pipes (MOEMILLS@aol.com)
6. 05:54 PM - Oh my lord! (Chris Schuermann)
7. 06:17 PM - Re: Oh my lord! (John Vormbaum)
8. 07:32 PM - Re: Oh my lord! (John McNulty)
9. 08:28 PM - Re: Oh my lord! (Andrew & Bridget Watson)
10. 11:22 PM - Re: Oh my lord! (Nico van Niekerk)
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
HI KIDS.
The last day of the University was great. The seminars this
year were all excellent. Flight Safety put on a wonderful turbine engine
session. Mike Grabbe also headed up a "What your piston commander is telling
you" Kerry from Byrley Aviation, John Bosch, and Gary Kromer from Commander
Aero and several others were in attendance. It was a great time and lasted
so long that Jeff Cousins had to arrange for us to have the room longer!!
(Thanks Jeff)
Barry Collman and I (and several others) spent time at the airport
watching all the departures, it was great to se all those Commanders blasting
out.
John Bosch and I spent about an hour with Jetty Hill from Flight
Safety discussing piston commander training. Here is where we are. They are
seriously Considering putting together a 10 - 15hr ground school based on
their turbine school, that would cover all the piston systems. That would be
coupled with a 5 -8-hr "generic" instrument refresher in a ME training
device. We even talked about configuring it with a Commander yoke, gear
handle etc. There would still be no actual "dual" in a real airplane, but we
are working on that as well.
I asked Hal Williams from Nation air, the TCAC chosen Commander
insurance broker, what difference this might make and he said without
hesitation "night & day" (what do you thank Gary Tillman)??
It was a great gathering and time well spent. Barry and I flew home
yesterday in triple 2, 31 X 2600 @ 12.5 + 162kts,ias, 182 kts over the
ground. Flew the 1000sm in 4+55 (Barry said it was 5.0, but you cant trust
those Brits). There was not a cloud or bump in the sky for the entire 1000
miles!!
I hope all is well on you Commanderland. jb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Ricardo A. Otaola" <otayca@telcel.net.ve>
Hi there:
I believe it Randy that has a 680F like myself. I wanted to know where I
can get some pipes, as I noticed that my right engine outer pipe has opened
apart. Anyone know where I can fix it or buy another????
Also I am looking for the gears for the cowl flaps. I believe they are
made out of plastic.
Thanks
Ricardo Otaola
AC-680F
YV-10P
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust pipes |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" <rcdettmer@charter.net>
Hello Ricardo,
The first place I ALWAYS go is to Morris Kernick of Commander Services in
Stockton, CA His phone number is 321 403 8813. If he can't point you in
the right direction, he can point you to someone who can.
Good luck,
Randy Dettmer
680F/N6253X
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ricardo A. Otaola" <otayca@telcel.net.ve>
Subject: Commander-List: exhaust pipes
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Ricardo A. Otaola"
<otayca@telcel.net.ve>
>
> Hi there:
>
> I believe it Randy that has a 680F like myself. I wanted to know where
I
> can get some pipes, as I noticed that my right engine outer pipe has
opened
> apart. Anyone know where I can fix it or buy another????
>
> Also I am looking for the gears for the cowl flaps. I believe they are
> made out of plastic.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ricardo Otaola
> AC-680F
> YV-10P
>
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> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust pipes |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 3/31/2003 4:12:57 PM Pacific Standard Time,
otayca@telcel.net.ve writes:
> I believe it Randy that has a 680F like myself. I wanted to know where I
> can get some pipes, as I noticed that my right engine outer pipe has opened
> apart. Anyone know where I can fix it or buy another????
Always call Morris first, then try Commander Aero, Gary Kromer 937-885-5580.
If he cant help, let me know. I know where there is (was) a really nice set
of pipes for your engine. I will need to dig around, but I think I can still
find the guy. jb
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust pipes |
--> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com
If Morris can't help, you may wish to contact
Dawley Aviation, Inc.
140 Industrial Drive
Burlington, WI 53105
Phone 800.338.5420
Fax 414.763.3735
dawley98@aol.com
I have delt with these guys for several years, and have always received
excellent quality, good service, and a fair price.
Moe Mills
N680RR
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net>
Have you all heard what happened last night?!?!? The not-so-honorable
Mayor Daley sent a crew out at 1:30am with no notice and plowed up the
runway at Meigs!!!! I am dumbfounded, shocked, horrified, and just
sick. Details at:
http://www.aopa.org
or
http://www.aero-news.net
chris
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
WTF????? Isn't that ILLEGAL???
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Schuermann" <cschuerm@cox.net>
Subject: Commander-List: Oh my lord!
> --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net>
>
> Have you all heard what happened last night?!?!? The not-so-honorable
> Mayor Daley sent a crew out at 1:30am with no notice and plowed up the
> runway at Meigs!!!! I am dumbfounded, shocked, horrified, and just
> sick. Details at:
> http://www.aopa.org
> or
> http://www.aero-news.net
>
> chris
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Andrew & Bridget Watson <andrew.bridget@shaw.ca>
I'm not a current pilot, and have never flown in North America, but when I
flew in Zimbabwe and in South Africa, only a commercial pilot could take off
from a field that was not recognised as a runway, as in the case of a forced
landing.
Now, I noticed that there are a number of aircraft on the ground at Meigs;
to get them out of there they would have to take off on the taxiway... is
this technically legal? I mean to take off on a taxiway? Would a Commercial
Pilot have to do the takeoff? If so, would the City of Chicago foot the bill
for the Commercial Pilots to do the takeoff?
As you can see I'm not a lawyer, either...
Sorry about what has happened to your field.
Andrew.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Oh my lord!
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
>
> WTF????? Isn't that ILLEGAL???
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Schuermann" <cschuerm@cox.net>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Commander-List: Oh my lord!
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann
<cschuerm@cox.net>
> >
> > Have you all heard what happened last night?!?!? The not-so-honorable
> > Mayor Daley sent a crew out at 1:30am with no notice and plowed up the
> > runway at Meigs!!!! I am dumbfounded, shocked, horrified, and just
> > sick. Details at:
> > http://www.aopa.org
> > or
> > http://www.aero-news.net
> >
> > chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Nico van Niekerk" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Some folks say it's an April's Fools joke. They got me blasting mayor Daley.
Ek's maar net 'n plaasjapie, wat verwag jy nou eintlik, huh?
Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew & Bridget Watson" <andrew.bridget@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Oh my lord!
> --> Commander-List message posted by: Andrew & Bridget Watson
<andrew.bridget@shaw.ca>
>
> I'm not a current pilot, and have never flown in North America, but when I
> flew in Zimbabwe and in South Africa, only a commercial pilot could take
off
> from a field that was not recognised as a runway, as in the case of a
forced
> landing.
>
> Now, I noticed that there are a number of aircraft on the ground at Meigs;
> to get them out of there they would have to take off on the taxiway... is
> this technically legal? I mean to take off on a taxiway? Would a
Commercial
> Pilot have to do the takeoff? If so, would the City of Chicago foot the
bill
> for the Commercial Pilots to do the takeoff?
>
> As you can see I'm not a lawyer, either...
>
> Sorry about what has happened to your field.
>
> Andrew.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Oh my lord!
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum"
<john@vormbaum.com>
> >
> > WTF????? Isn't that ILLEGAL???
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Schuermann" <cschuerm@cox.net>
> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Commander-List: Oh my lord!
> >
> >
> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann
> <cschuerm@cox.net>
> > >
> > > Have you all heard what happened last night?!?!? The not-so-honorable
> > > Mayor Daley sent a crew out at 1:30am with no notice and plowed up the
> > > runway at Meigs!!!! I am dumbfounded, shocked, horrified, and just
> > > sick. Details at:
> > > http://www.aopa.org
> > > or
> > > http://www.aero-news.net
> > >
> > > chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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