Today's Message Index:
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1. 08:51 AM - Re: "Breakup" (Bill Bow)
2. 09:35 AM - Fw: FW: Meigs Poll: Vote NOW online...WGN Radio "Newsclick Poll": Doe s clos... (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
3. 10:33 AM - Web Page Update (Dan Dominguez)
4. 04:03 PM - Maybe Nico is O.K. (JETPAUL@aol.com)
5. 07:52 PM - Fw: Fw: (Jody and Susan Pillatzki)
6. 08:05 PM - Re: "THE AVERAGE MILITARY MAN" (CloudCraft@aol.com)
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
Yup
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Hamilton" <fighterf@ozemail.com.au>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: "Breakup"
> --> Commander-List message posted by: Bill Hamilton
<fighterf@ozemail.com.au>
>
> Bilbo,
> Re. the L-188 wing problems, as my memory tells me, the problem was "whirl
> mode" vibration, leading to the failure of the structure between the core
> engine and the prop gearbox, and the result was the whole prop assembly
> tearing loose and destroying the surrounding wing structure.
> Regards,
> Bill Hamilton.
>
>
> At 03:19 PM 2/04/03 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
> >
> >Yup, a pity. I flew Electras. It wasn't the tail it was the wings. The
> >end result is the same.
> >
> >Rapid deceleration syndrome, it sucks
> >
> >bilbo
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <CloudCraft@aol.com>
> >To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Re: Commander-List: "Breakup"
> >
> >
> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
> > >
> > > In a message dated 04/02/03 11:16:07 Pacific Standard Time,
> > > nico@cybersuperstore.com writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > What is a "positioning flight?" I read some other accident reports
also
> >and
> > > > they all refer to the flights as "positioning".
> > >
> > > Refers to a flight where no passengers or cargo are on board and the
crew
> >is
> > > positioning the aircraft for the pick up of pax or cargo, or, in air
> >carrier
> > > terms, the next "revenue leg."
> > >
> > > The term is used in Part 91 operations as well, connoting that it's a
> > > crew-only leg.
> > >
> > > As to Bilbo's question, "Speed Kills?" Only when it can over stress
> > > structure. So in the 685/690 series airframes, it's not a good idea
to
> > > harness the potential energy of altitude and come screaming down near
or
> >at
> > > red line.
> > >
> > > Pity, isn't it?
> > >
> > > Wing Commander Gordon
> > >
> > > Wing Commander Gordon
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Fwd: FW: Meigs Poll: Vote NOW online...WGN Radio "Newsclick |
Poll": Doe s clos...
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
From: N700PF@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: FW: Meigs Poll: Vote NOW online...WGN Radio "Newsclick Poll": Doe
s clos...
From: "Elliott, Robert E." <ElliottRE@alyeska-pipeline.com>
Subject: FW: Meigs Poll: Vote NOW online...WGN Radio "Newsclick Poll": Doe
s closing Meigs halt terrorism?
FYI & vote.
Bob Elliott, Project Engineer
907-787-8178
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Thomas [mailto:mypa12@yahoo.com]
Subject: Meigs Poll: Vote NOW online...WGN Radio "Newsclick Poll": Does
closing Meigs halt terrorism?
I just voted and the current poll shows 95% No and 5% Yes.
JT
> From: "Friends of Meigs Field" <news@friendsofmeigs.org>
> > URGENT!
> >
> > WGN Radio is running an online poll today, asking:
> >
> > Do you feel that closing Meigs Field reduces the risk of a terrorist
> attack on Chicago?
> >
> > It is currently running 88% NO 12% YES
> >
> > Visit: http://wgnradio.freepolls.com/cgi-bin/polls/006/poll_center.htm
> >
> > to cast your vote!
> >
> > - SGW
> >
> >
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Dan Dominguez" <dan@worldflight2000.com>
Fellas-
Just an update.
Plane of the season is coming up and we need a few recommendations.
These can be done anonymously on the plane of the season page (bottom).
The web site has several pages easily distinguishable (red) that will only be available
to TCFG memebers. That change over date is now 14April03 due to a few
problems securing Membership information. So if you don't register...
Regarding Gary Tillman's question, in the LIBRARY you can scroll to the bottom,
type in a Tail Number if you know it, or MORE OPTIONS on the "NTSB" reports.
The TCFG web page will come up requesting more info.
For Gary's Question, just select AIRCRAFT as a 690 and choose SEVERITY as fatal
to filter out the other incidents. Unfortunately chances are good that an inflight
breakup would result in Fatal Injuries. Do that, and then SUBMIT QUERY.
You will be surprised how many 690's have come apart in flight and the reasons
for it.
If you'd like a more detailed search including EVERYTHING that was ever filed with
the FAA, then simply click on the The National Aviation Safety Data Analysis
Center (NASDAC) link. Unfortunately the site is restricted and we can't offer
a direct link to the query database. Its simple but you can follow these
steps. CLICK to AGREE to their terms then on Databses on the LEFT when the new
page pops up. When the next page pops up you'll have to scroll down and click
on "FAA Accident /Incident Data System (AIDS)" This will take you to another
page and there you can click "AIDS Data Query Tool". The form is self explanatory
but is very in depth. This is a wonderful too for prebuys. And remember
DO NOT put an N in front of US Tail Numbers.
Daisy's got a few more tricks up her sleeveless dress, and I still need the Colemill
500A numbers for the aircraft page. We're here to help...
Blue Skies
Dan
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| Subject: | Maybe Nico is O.K. |
--> Commander-List message posted by: JETPAUL@aol.com
In a message dated 4/2/2003 2:58:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,
commander-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
> Hahahaha.
>
> Folks, by the time the terrorists get this message, they will have other
> stuff running down their legs.
>
O.K. Nico is back in the club. I see on Fox news that the Medina and Bahgdad
divisions are detroyed, I guess they didn't get his coded messge.
JetPaul
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"Susan Pillatzki" <susan@vertin.com>,
"Ryan Anderson" <ryan_g_anderson@hotmail.com>,
"Lori Pithey" <lpithey@wccobelt.com>, "Kim Freeman" <kfreeman@ndak.net>,
"Jonathan Paul" <jepaul@earthlink.net>, <JETPAUL@aol.com>,
"Jim Crunkleton" <crunk12@bellsouth.net>,
"Hieke Berthold" <heikeb_69@yahoo.com>,
"GENE CHRISTIANSON" <MinnDD@cableone.net>,
"Gary Carlson" <agcarlson99@msn.com>, <cwall@worldflight2000.com>,
<commander-list@matronics.com>
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jody and Susan Pillatzki" <jpillatzki@702com.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: Shannon Highland
Subject: Fw:
----- Original Message -----
From: Miles, Andy O. IC2(SW)
-----Original Message-----
From: Goodman, Ryan M. ET3(SW)
Subject: FW: Fw: Friday Morning
Please take a moment to read this:
"THE AVERAGE MILITARY MAN"
The average age of the military man is 19 years.
He is a short haired, tight-muscled kid who, under normal circumstances is considered
by society as half man, half boy. Not yet dry behind the ears, not old
enough to buy a beer, but old enough to die for his country.
He never really cared much for work and he would rather wax his own car than wash
his father's; but he has never collected unemployment either.
He's a recent High School graduate; he was probably an average student, pursued
some form of sport activities, drives a ten year old jalopy, and has a steady
girlfriend that either broke up with him when he left, or swears to be waiting
when he returns from half a world away.
He listens to rock and roll or hip-hop or rap or jazz or swing and 155 mm Howitzers.
He is 10 or 15 pounds lighter now than when he was at home because he is working
or fighting from before dawn to well after dusk.
He has trouble spelling, thus letter writing is a pain for him, but he can field
strip a rifle in 30 seconds and reassemble it in less time in the dark.
He can recite to you the nomenclature of a machine gun or grenade launcher and
use either one effectively if he must.
He digs foxholes and latrines and can apply first aid like a professional.
He can march until he is told to stop or stop until he is told to march.
He obeys orders instantly and without hesitation, but he is not without spirit
or individual dignity.
He is self-sufficient. He has two sets of fatigues: he washes one and wears the
other. He keeps his canteens full and his feet dry.
He sometimes forgets to brush his teeth, but never to clean his rifle.
He can cook his own meals, mend his own clothes, and fix his own hurts. If you're
thirsty, he'll share his water with you; if you are hungry, his food.
He'll even split his ammunition with you in the midst of battle when you run low.
He has learned to use his hands like weapons and weapons like they were his hands.
He can save your life - or take it, because that is his job.
He will often do twice the work of a civilian, draw half the pay and still find
ironic humor in it all. He has seen more suffering and death then he should have
in his short lifetime.
He has stood atop mountains of dead bodies, and helped to create them.
He has wept in public and in private, for friends who have fallen in combat and
is unashamed.
He feels every note of the National Anthem vibrate through his body while at rigid
attention, while tempering the burning desire to 'square-away' those around
him who haven't bothered to stand, remove their hat, or even stop talking. In
an odd twist, day in and day out, far from home, he defends their right to be
disrespectful.
Just as did his Father, Grandfather, and Great-grandfather, he is paying the price
for our freedom.
Beardless or not, he is not a boy.
He is the American Fighting Man that has kept this country free for over 200 years.
He has asked nothing in return, except our friendship and understanding.
Remember him, always, for he has earned our respect and admiration with his blood.
_____________
When you receive this, consider stopping for a moment to say a prayer for
our ground troops in Afghanistan, sailors on ships, and airmen in the air, and
for all of those at war with Iraq. There is nothing attached.
This can be very powerful.... Just send this to all the people in your address
book. Do not stop the wheel, please.... Of all the gifts you could give a
US Soldier, Sailor, Marine or Airman, prayer is the very best one.
Prayer Wheel for our Military: "Lord, hold our troops in your loving hands. Protect
them as they protect us. Bless them and their families for the selfless
acts they perform for us in our time of need. Amen."
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| Subject: | Re: "THE AVERAGE MILITARY MAN" |
--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
That was interesting: I went through my address book to forward that email
sent by Jody to people I knew would appreciate and 75% of them are on this
list ...
Wing Commander Gordon
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