Commander-List Digest Archive

Tue 04/08/03


Total Messages Posted: 12



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:22 PM - AC-500 (Victor Fernandez Cochon)
     2. 01:39 PM - Re:AC-500 (alh1@juno.com)
     3. 01:53 PM - Exhaust manifold nuts (Kerry Johnson)
     4. 03:05 PM - Re: Exhaust manifold nuts (Tom Fisher)
     5. 03:27 PM - Re: Exhaust manifold nuts (Kerry Johnson)
     6. 03:43 PM - Re: Exhaust manifold nuts (N414C)
     7. 04:46 PM - Re: Exhaust manifold nuts (Kerry Johnson)
     8. 05:37 PM - Re: Exhaust manifold nuts (Tom Fisher)
     9. 06:29 PM - Re: Exhaust manifold nuts (ProgSearch@aol.com)
    10. 06:30 PM - Re: AC-500 (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
    11. 06:31 PM - Re: Exhaust manifold nuts (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
    12. 09:31 PM - Re: Exhaust manifold nuts (Bill Hamilton)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:22:45 PM PST US
    From: "Victor Fernandez Cochon" <vfc@fernandezgonzalez.com>
    Subject: AC-500
          
      --> Commander-List message posted by: "Victor Fernandez Cochon" <vfc@fernandezgonzalez.com>
      
      Does anyone know of a good prop lock and where to get it,
      Thanks,
      Victor
      
      
      
      
      
      


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    Time: 01:39:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: AC-500
    From: alh1@juno.com
          
      --> Commander-List message posted by: alh1@juno.com
      
      victor, i would recommend a battery cut off switch instead of a prop lock.  prop
      locks are expensive and the engines cannot be proped easily without a starter.
      i have a small switch hidden that interrupts the master solenoid.  very cheap
      prop lock.  al hoffman  
      
      
      
      
      
      


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    Time: 01:53:12 PM PST US
    From: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
    Subject: Exhaust manifold nuts
          
      --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
      
      I have been having a problem with our Aerostar N69MF. Every 50 hour
      inspection, we find two or three nuts have fallen off the studs. I'm talking
      about the nuts that hold the exhaust manifold to the head, there are two on
      every cylinder, We have tried all sorts of locknuts, and lock tight glues
      and nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? This may not be a problem on
      Commanders, since I think the exhaust and intakes are on top of the engine,
      instead of hanging down below it, as they do in the Aerostar installation.
      
      KVJ
      
      
      
      
      
      


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    Time: 03:05:24 PM PST US
    From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
    Subject: Re: Exhaust manifold nuts
          
      --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
      
      Lockwire!
      
      Tom F.
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
      Subject: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts
      
      
      > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson"
      <kerry@kvelectric.com>
      >
      > I have been having a problem with our Aerostar N69MF. Every 50 hour
      > inspection, we find two or three nuts have fallen off the studs. I'm
      talking
      > about the nuts that hold the exhaust manifold to the head, there are two
      on
      > every cylinder, We have tried all sorts of locknuts, and lock tight glues
      > and nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? This may not be a problem on
      > Commanders, since I think the exhaust and intakes are on top of the
      engine,
      > instead of hanging down below it, as they do in the Aerostar installation.
      >
      > KVJ
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      


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    Time: 03:27:40 PM PST US
    From: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
    Subject: Exhaust manifold nuts
          
      --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
      
      Huh? What's Lockwire???
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tom
      Fisher
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts
      
      
      --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher"
      <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
      
      Lockwire!
      
      Tom F.
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
      Subject: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts
      
      
      > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson"
      <kerry@kvelectric.com>
      >
      > I have been having a problem with our Aerostar N69MF. Every 50 hour
      > inspection, we find two or three nuts have fallen off the studs. I'm
      talking
      > about the nuts that hold the exhaust manifold to the head, there are two
      on
      > every cylinder, We have tried all sorts of locknuts, and lock tight glues
      > and nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? This may not be a problem on
      > Commanders, since I think the exhaust and intakes are on top of the
      engine,
      > instead of hanging down below it, as they do in the Aerostar installation.
      >
      > KVJ
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      


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    Time: 03:43:00 PM PST US
    From: "N414C" <N414C@direcway.com>
    Subject: Re: Exhaust manifold nuts
          
      --> Commander-List message posted by: "N414C" <N414C@direcway.com>
      
      Drill em and wire em
      Milt
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
      Subject: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts
      
      
      > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson"
      <kerry@kvelectric.com>
      >
      > I have been having a problem with our Aerostar N69MF. Every 50 hour
      > inspection, we find two or three nuts have fallen off the studs. I'm
      talking
      > about the nuts that hold the exhaust manifold to the head, there are two
      on
      > every cylinder, We have tried all sorts of locknuts, and lock tight glues
      > and nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? This may not be a problem on
      > Commanders, since I think the exhaust and intakes are on top of the
      engine,
      > instead of hanging down below it, as they do in the Aerostar installation.
      >
      > KVJ
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      


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    Time: 04:46:38 PM PST US
    From: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
    Subject: Exhaust manifold nuts
          
      --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
      
      Have you drilled these studs before? They are quite small, I think 1/4" and
      I think they're also hardened steel, so they would be really difficult to
      drill. I'm sure it would work, but I would be a little leery of trying it
      without knowing it had been done with good results.
      
      KVJ
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of N414C
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts
      
      
      --> Commander-List message posted by: "N414C" <N414C@direcway.com>
      
      Drill em and wire em
      Milt
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
      Subject: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts
      
      
      > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson"
      <kerry@kvelectric.com>
      >
      > I have been having a problem with our Aerostar N69MF. Every 50 hour
      > inspection, we find two or three nuts have fallen off the studs. I'm
      talking
      > about the nuts that hold the exhaust manifold to the head, there are two
      on
      > every cylinder, We have tried all sorts of locknuts, and lock tight glues
      > and nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? This may not be a problem on
      > Commanders, since I think the exhaust and intakes are on top of the
      engine,
      > instead of hanging down below it, as they do in the Aerostar installation.
      >
      > KVJ
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      


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    Time: 05:37:03 PM PST US
    From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
    Subject: Re: Exhaust manifold nuts
          
      --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
      
      You do not have to drill the studs.
      Just drill the nuts and secure them to a nearby fixed point with the lock
      wire.
      
      Tom F.
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
      Subject: RE: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts
      
      
      > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson"
      <kerry@kvelectric.com>
      >
      > Have you drilled these studs before? They are quite small, I think 1/4"
      and
      > I think they're also hardened steel, so they would be really difficult to
      > drill. I'm sure it would work, but I would be a little leery of trying it
      > without knowing it had been done with good results.
      >
      > KVJ
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of N414C
      > To: commander-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts
      >
      >
      > --> Commander-List message posted by: "N414C" <N414C@direcway.com>
      >
      > Drill em and wire em
      > Milt
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
      > To: "'Commander Chat'" <commander-list@matronics.com>
      > Subject: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts
      >
      >
      > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson"
      > <kerry@kvelectric.com>
      > >
      > > I have been having a problem with our Aerostar N69MF. Every 50 hour
      > > inspection, we find two or three nuts have fallen off the studs. I'm
      > talking
      > > about the nuts that hold the exhaust manifold to the head, there are two
      > on
      > > every cylinder, We have tried all sorts of locknuts, and lock tight
      glues
      > > and nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? This may not be a problem on
      > > Commanders, since I think the exhaust and intakes are on top of the
      > engine,
      > > instead of hanging down below it, as they do in the Aerostar
      installation.
      > >
      > > KVJ
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      


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    Time: 06:29:20 PM PST US
    From: ProgSearch@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Exhaust manifold nuts
          
      --> Commander-List message posted by: ProgSearch@aol.com
      
      In a message dated 4/8/03 8:37:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
      tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes:
      
      
      > <kerry@kvelectric.com
      
      I think you are referring to safety wire?
      
      
      
      
      
      


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    Time: 06:30:32 PM PST US
    From: YOURTCFG@aol.com
    Subject: Re: AC-500
          
      --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
      
      In a message dated 4/8/2003 1:23:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
      vfc@fernandezgonzalez.com writes:
      
      > Does anyone know of a good prop lock and where to get it,
      > Thanks,
      > Victor
      
      Winer Aviation in Youngstown OH ahd a great one and they work on Commanders.  
      330-856-5000.  jb
      
      
      
      
      
      


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    Time: 06:31:49 PM PST US
    From: YOURTCFG@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Exhaust manifold nuts
          
      --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
      
      In a message dated 4/8/2003 1:55:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
      kerry@kvelectric.com writes:
      
      > .com>
      > 
      > I have been having a problem with our Aerostar N69MF. Every 50 hour
      > inspection, we find two or three nuts have fallen off the studs
      
      Double nuts.  Install the correct lock nut and tehen a simple plain nut on 
      top.  My 985 did the sme thing, fixed it.  jb
      
      
      
      
      
      


    Message 12

    

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    Time: 09:31:15 PM PST US
    From: Bill Hamilton <fighterf@ozemail.com.au>
    Subject: Re: Exhaust manifold nuts
          
      --> Commander-List message posted by: Bill Hamilton <fighterf@ozemail.com.au>
      
      All,
      And treat yourself to one of the lockwire drilling jigs, it will save a lot 
      of time and cursing in broken drills.
      Cheers,
      Bill Hamilton
      
      
      At 05:40 PM 8/04/03 -0500, you wrote:
      >--> Commander-List message posted by: "N414C" <N414C@direcway.com>
      >
      >Drill em and wire em
      >Milt
      >----- Original Message -----
      >From: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
      >To: "'Commander Chat'" <commander-list@matronics.com>
      >Subject: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts
      >
      >
      > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson"
      ><kerry@kvelectric.com>
      > >
      > > I have been having a problem with our Aerostar N69MF. Every 50 hour
      > > inspection, we find two or three nuts have fallen off the studs. I'm
      >talking
      > > about the nuts that hold the exhaust manifold to the head, there are two
      >on
      > > every cylinder, We have tried all sorts of locknuts, and lock tight glues
      > > and nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? This may not be a problem on
      > > Commanders, since I think the exhaust and intakes are on top of the
      >engine,
      > > instead of hanging down below it, as they do in the Aerostar installation.
      > >
      > > KVJ
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      

    

    


    

    

    

    

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