---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/08/03: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:22 PM - AC-500 (Victor Fernandez Cochon) 2. 01:39 PM - Re:AC-500 (alh1@juno.com) 3. 01:53 PM - Exhaust manifold nuts (Kerry Johnson) 4. 03:05 PM - Re: Exhaust manifold nuts (Tom Fisher) 5. 03:27 PM - Re: Exhaust manifold nuts (Kerry Johnson) 6. 03:43 PM - Re: Exhaust manifold nuts (N414C) 7. 04:46 PM - Re: Exhaust manifold nuts (Kerry Johnson) 8. 05:37 PM - Re: Exhaust manifold nuts (Tom Fisher) 9. 06:29 PM - Re: Exhaust manifold nuts (ProgSearch@aol.com) 10. 06:30 PM - Re: AC-500 (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 11. 06:31 PM - Re: Exhaust manifold nuts (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 12. 09:31 PM - Re: Exhaust manifold nuts (Bill Hamilton) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:22:45 PM PST US From: "Victor Fernandez Cochon" Subject: Commander-List: AC-500 --> Commander-List message posted by: "Victor Fernandez Cochon" Does anyone know of a good prop lock and where to get it, Thanks, Victor ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:39:52 PM PST US Subject: Re:Commander-List: AC-500 From: alh1@juno.com --> Commander-List message posted by: alh1@juno.com victor, i would recommend a battery cut off switch instead of a prop lock. prop locks are expensive and the engines cannot be proped easily without a starter. i have a small switch hidden that interrupts the master solenoid. very cheap prop lock. al hoffman ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:53:12 PM PST US From: "Kerry Johnson" Subject: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" I have been having a problem with our Aerostar N69MF. Every 50 hour inspection, we find two or three nuts have fallen off the studs. I'm talking about the nuts that hold the exhaust manifold to the head, there are two on every cylinder, We have tried all sorts of locknuts, and lock tight glues and nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? This may not be a problem on Commanders, since I think the exhaust and intakes are on top of the engine, instead of hanging down below it, as they do in the Aerostar installation. KVJ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:05:24 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" Lockwire! Tom F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Johnson" Subject: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" > > I have been having a problem with our Aerostar N69MF. Every 50 hour > inspection, we find two or three nuts have fallen off the studs. I'm talking > about the nuts that hold the exhaust manifold to the head, there are two on > every cylinder, We have tried all sorts of locknuts, and lock tight glues > and nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? This may not be a problem on > Commanders, since I think the exhaust and intakes are on top of the engine, > instead of hanging down below it, as they do in the Aerostar installation. > > KVJ > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:27:40 PM PST US From: "Kerry Johnson" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" Huh? What's Lockwire??? -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tom Fisher Subject: Re: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" Lockwire! Tom F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Johnson" Subject: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" > > I have been having a problem with our Aerostar N69MF. Every 50 hour > inspection, we find two or three nuts have fallen off the studs. I'm talking > about the nuts that hold the exhaust manifold to the head, there are two on > every cylinder, We have tried all sorts of locknuts, and lock tight glues > and nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? This may not be a problem on > Commanders, since I think the exhaust and intakes are on top of the engine, > instead of hanging down below it, as they do in the Aerostar installation. > > KVJ > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:43:00 PM PST US From: "N414C" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts --> Commander-List message posted by: "N414C" Drill em and wire em Milt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Johnson" Subject: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" > > I have been having a problem with our Aerostar N69MF. Every 50 hour > inspection, we find two or three nuts have fallen off the studs. I'm talking > about the nuts that hold the exhaust manifold to the head, there are two on > every cylinder, We have tried all sorts of locknuts, and lock tight glues > and nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? This may not be a problem on > Commanders, since I think the exhaust and intakes are on top of the engine, > instead of hanging down below it, as they do in the Aerostar installation. > > KVJ > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:46:38 PM PST US From: "Kerry Johnson" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" Have you drilled these studs before? They are quite small, I think 1/4" and I think they're also hardened steel, so they would be really difficult to drill. I'm sure it would work, but I would be a little leery of trying it without knowing it had been done with good results. KVJ -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of N414C Subject: Re: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts --> Commander-List message posted by: "N414C" Drill em and wire em Milt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Johnson" Subject: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" > > I have been having a problem with our Aerostar N69MF. Every 50 hour > inspection, we find two or three nuts have fallen off the studs. I'm talking > about the nuts that hold the exhaust manifold to the head, there are two on > every cylinder, We have tried all sorts of locknuts, and lock tight glues > and nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? This may not be a problem on > Commanders, since I think the exhaust and intakes are on top of the engine, > instead of hanging down below it, as they do in the Aerostar installation. > > KVJ > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:37:03 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" You do not have to drill the studs. Just drill the nuts and secure them to a nearby fixed point with the lock wire. Tom F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Johnson" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" > > Have you drilled these studs before? They are quite small, I think 1/4" and > I think they're also hardened steel, so they would be really difficult to > drill. I'm sure it would work, but I would be a little leery of trying it > without knowing it had been done with good results. > > KVJ > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of N414C > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "N414C" > > Drill em and wire em > Milt > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kerry Johnson" > To: "'Commander Chat'" > Subject: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" > > > > > I have been having a problem with our Aerostar N69MF. Every 50 hour > > inspection, we find two or three nuts have fallen off the studs. I'm > talking > > about the nuts that hold the exhaust manifold to the head, there are two > on > > every cylinder, We have tried all sorts of locknuts, and lock tight glues > > and nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? This may not be a problem on > > Commanders, since I think the exhaust and intakes are on top of the > engine, > > instead of hanging down below it, as they do in the Aerostar installation. > > > > KVJ > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:20 PM PST US From: ProgSearch@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts --> Commander-List message posted by: ProgSearch@aol.com In a message dated 4/8/03 8:37:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes: > Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 4/8/2003 1:23:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, vfc@fernandezgonzalez.com writes: > Does anyone know of a good prop lock and where to get it, > Thanks, > Victor Winer Aviation in Youngstown OH ahd a great one and they work on Commanders. 330-856-5000. jb ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:31:49 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 4/8/2003 1:55:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, kerry@kvelectric.com writes: > .com> > > I have been having a problem with our Aerostar N69MF. Every 50 hour > inspection, we find two or three nuts have fallen off the studs Double nuts. Install the correct lock nut and tehen a simple plain nut on top. My 985 did the sme thing, fixed it. jb ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:31:15 PM PST US From: Bill Hamilton Subject: Re: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts --> Commander-List message posted by: Bill Hamilton All, And treat yourself to one of the lockwire drilling jigs, it will save a lot of time and cursing in broken drills. Cheers, Bill Hamilton At 05:40 PM 8/04/03 -0500, you wrote: >--> Commander-List message posted by: "N414C" > >Drill em and wire em >Milt >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kerry Johnson" >To: "'Commander Chat'" >Subject: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" > > > > > I have been having a problem with our Aerostar N69MF. Every 50 hour > > inspection, we find two or three nuts have fallen off the studs. I'm >talking > > about the nuts that hold the exhaust manifold to the head, there are two >on > > every cylinder, We have tried all sorts of locknuts, and lock tight glues > > and nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? This may not be a problem on > > Commanders, since I think the exhaust and intakes are on top of the >engine, > > instead of hanging down below it, as they do in the Aerostar installation. > > > > KVJ > > > > > >