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1. 01:51 AM - Re: AC-500 (CloudCraft@aol.com)
2. 04:59 AM - Re: Exhaust manifold nuts (Gary Kromer)
3. 05:39 AM - Re: Exhaust manifold nuts (Nico van Niekerk)
4. 02:17 PM - COMMANDER ENGINE OIL (MOEMILLS@aol.com)
5. 03:05 PM - Re: COMMANDER ENGINE OIL (Bruce Campbell)
6. 03:30 PM - Taliban Release Program. (Kerry Johnson)
7. 03:41 PM - Re: Taliban Release Program. (Kerry Johnson)
8. 03:47 PM - Re: Taliban Release Program. (CloudCraft@aol.com)
9. 03:57 PM - Re: COMMANDER ENGINE OIL (CloudCraft@aol.com)
10. 03:58 PM - Re: Taliban Release Program. (Kerry Johnson)
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--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 04/08/03 13:23:15 Pacific Daylight Time,
vfc@fernandezgonzalez.com writes:
> Does anyone know of a good prop lock and where to get it,
Victor,
Check Sporty's Pilot Shop catalog.
Message 2
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| Subject: | Re: Exhaust manifold nuts |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Gary Kromer" <service@commander-aero.com>
Are your exhaust studs coarse or fine threads? If they are coarse, this
could be part of your problem. Have you tried brass nuts for exhaust
systems?
Gary @ Commander-Aero
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson"
<kerry@kvelectric.com>
>
> Have you drilled these studs before? They are quite small, I think 1/4"
and
> I think they're also hardened steel, so they would be really difficult to
> drill. I'm sure it would work, but I would be a little leery of trying it
> without knowing it had been done with good results.
>
> KVJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of N414C
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts
>
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "N414C" <N414C@direcway.com>
>
> Drill em and wire em
> Milt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
> To: "'Commander Chat'" <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson"
> <kerry@kvelectric.com>
> >
> > I have been having a problem with our Aerostar N69MF. Every 50 hour
> > inspection, we find two or three nuts have fallen off the studs. I'm
> talking
> > about the nuts that hold the exhaust manifold to the head, there are two
> on
> > every cylinder, We have tried all sorts of locknuts, and lock tight
glues
> > and nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? This may not be a problem on
> > Commanders, since I think the exhaust and intakes are on top of the
> engine,
> > instead of hanging down below it, as they do in the Aerostar
installation.
> >
> > KVJ
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Exhaust manifold nuts |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Nico van Niekerk" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Wouldn't drilling them compromise their strength (tensile)? Perhaps a
flatter locknut with wiring holes?
Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Kromer" <service@commander-aero.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Gary Kromer"
<service@commander-aero.com>
>
> Are your exhaust studs coarse or fine threads? If they are coarse, this
> could be part of your problem. Have you tried brass nuts for exhaust
> systems?
> Gary @ Commander-Aero
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson"
> <kerry@kvelectric.com>
> >
> > Have you drilled these studs before? They are quite small, I think 1/4"
> and
> > I think they're also hardened steel, so they would be really difficult
to
> > drill. I'm sure it would work, but I would be a little leery of trying
it
> > without knowing it had been done with good results.
> >
> > KVJ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of N414C
> > To: commander-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts
> >
> >
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "N414C" <N414C@direcway.com>
> >
> > Drill em and wire em
> > Milt
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
> > To: "'Commander Chat'" <commander-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Commander-List: Exhaust manifold nuts
> >
> >
> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson"
> > <kerry@kvelectric.com>
> > >
> > > I have been having a problem with our Aerostar N69MF. Every 50 hour
> > > inspection, we find two or three nuts have fallen off the studs. I'm
> > talking
> > > about the nuts that hold the exhaust manifold to the head, there are
two
> > on
> > > every cylinder, We have tried all sorts of locknuts, and lock tight
> glues
> > > and nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? This may not be a problem
on
> > > Commanders, since I think the exhaust and intakes are on top of the
> > engine,
> > > instead of hanging down below it, as they do in the Aerostar
> installation.
> > >
> > > KVJ
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | COMMANDER ENGINE OIL |
--> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com
Commander Drivers:
We are just completing the instillation on two newly majored IGSO 540 B1A
engines in my 680F(p) with new Lycoming jugs. Any advice or suggestions on
which oil is best now (after break-in). For years I have been using
Aeroshell X100 50 wt, with fairly good success. Keep in mind that I operate
out of HHR where an extremely cold day is 58F. I do operate in the desert
occasionally where the temp on the ground can be 105F. Any suggestions?
Thanx!
Moe
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| Subject: | Re: COMMANDER ENGINE OIL |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell" <baruch@intelligentflight.com>
I've heard consistently that the "best" compromise between price and
performance is to be had from AeroShell 100+, becuase it is much less
expensive than 15-50 but contains the same anti-rust and anti-spalling
additives.
This assumes that one consistently warms their engines up to operating temp
before take off.
Bruce Campbell
----- Original Message -----
From: <MOEMILLS@aol.com>
Subject: Commander-List: COMMANDER ENGINE OIL
> --> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com
>
> Commander Drivers:
>
> We are just completing the instillation on two newly majored IGSO 540 B1A
> engines in my 680F(p) with new Lycoming jugs. Any advice or suggestions
on
> which oil is best now (after break-in). For years I have been using
> Aeroshell X100 50 wt, with fairly good success. Keep in mind that I
operate
> out of HHR where an extremely cold day is 58F. I do operate in the desert
> occasionally where the temp on the ground can be 105F. Any suggestions?
>
> Thanx!
>
> Moe
>
>
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| Subject: | Taliban Release Program. |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
TALIBAN PRISONERS RELEASED
The Pentagon revealed today that four high-ranking Taliban prisoners
suspected of having close ties to Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda
terrorist network were released from custody early this morning.
The prisoners were captured during the furious battle at Tora Bora
in Afghanistan during December 2001 and had been held captive for CIA,
DIA and FBI intelligence debriefings for nearly thirteen months aboard
the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (CVN-65).
The prisoners were provided $50 cash each and a white 1963 Ford
Fairlane for their return trip home to Saudi Arabia.
Navy photographers aboard the Enterprise captured the following
photo as the prisoners departed the ship.
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| Subject: | Taliban Release Program. |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
Hey, what happened to the j peg file I put on this message? I'll try it
again.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kerry
Johnson
Subject: Commander-List: Taliban Release Program.
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
TALIBAN PRISONERS RELEASED
The Pentagon revealed today that four high-ranking Taliban prisoners
suspected of having close ties to Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda
terrorist network were released from custody early this morning.
The prisoners were captured during the furious battle at Tora Bora
in Afghanistan during December 2001 and had been held captive for CIA,
DIA and FBI intelligence debriefings for nearly thirteen months aboard
the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (CVN-65).
The prisoners were provided $50 cash each and a white 1963 Ford
Fairlane for their return trip home to Saudi Arabia.
Navy photographers aboard the Enterprise captured the following
photo as the prisoners departed the ship.
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| Subject: | Re: Taliban Release Program. |
--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 04/09/03 15:41:47 Pacific Daylight Time,
kerry@kvelectric.com writes:
> Hey, what happened to the j peg file I put on this message? I'll try it
> again.
This list server strips them off.
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Re: COMMANDER ENGINE OIL |
--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 04/09/03 14:18:46 Pacific Daylight Time, MOEMILLS@aol.com
writes:
> We are just completing the instillation on two newly majored IGSO 540 B1A
> engines in my 680F(p) with new Lycoming jugs
Congratulations! Where did you have them majored, by the way?
Have you run this question by Morris? You will be surprized at the answer
(unless he's changed his mind in the past few years that he and I discussed
this.)
The conclusion from watching what engines made it to TBO was that the
IGSO-540 was born in an era when "straight mineral oil" was all there was and
the engines run on this really well.
For sure there have been advances in oil and metallurgy in the past 60 years,
so there's a lot of attractive alternatives.
I always operated IGSO-540s with a single weight oil and the heaviest
viscosity possible for the environment to avoid thin oil at high temps which
causes the Simmonds to go too rich on landing roll-out and taxi in.
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Taliban Release Program. |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
OK, then go to www . its-priceless.com/New/catchandrelease.jpg only take the
spaces out between www and . and its.
Since you also can't link anything through the server.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
CloudCraft@aol.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Taliban Release Program.
--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 04/09/03 15:41:47 Pacific Daylight Time,
kerry@kvelectric.com writes:
> Hey, what happened to the j peg file I put on this message? I'll try it
> again.
This list server strips them off.
Wing Commander Gordon
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