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1. 05:32 AM - Re: COMMANDER ENGINE OIL (Martini Luc J.R.)
2. 07:32 AM - Re: COMMANDER ENGINE OIL (MOEMILLS@aol.com)
3. 02:37 PM - NEW MEMBERS (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
4. 02:37 PM - Re: COMMANDER ENGINE OIL (Kerry Johnson)
5. 04:28 PM - Re: COMMANDER ENGINE OIL (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: COMMANDER ENGINE OIL |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Martini Luc J.R." <martini@foxinternet.net>
You are wondering about where to get a GSO-540 type engine OVH & conversely
where not.
WHERE:
OKANAGEN AERO ENGINE, Kolowna B.C. (Canada) (250-765-9718) The difference
in the exchange rate makes for a very nice reduction in the cost of OVH..
which is mostly labor. And, they do good work.
WHERE NOT: PACIFIC CONTINENTAL ENGINES.. Van Nuys, CA. These guys
screwed me over royally.. estimate of a REPAIR went from $6,000 to $24,000
(and I supplied the Cylinders) after they got hold of $5000 in deposit
(which I still haven't been reimbursed eventhough I pulled the engine out of
their shop). And they had my engine sitting around for 6 months before they
got around to sending the first written estimate. And.. they screwed up
what little work they did do. and provided NO DOCUMENTATION of their work.
Luc Martini
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From: <CloudCraft@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: COMMANDER ENGINE OIL
> --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 04/09/03 14:18:46 Pacific Daylight Time,
MOEMILLS@aol.com
> writes:
>
>
> > We are just completing the instillation on two newly majored IGSO 540
B1A
> > engines in my 680F(p) with new Lycoming jugs
>
> Congratulations! Where did you have them majored, by the way?
>
> Have you run this question by Morris? You will be surprized at the answer
> (unless he's changed his mind in the past few years that he and I
discussed
> this.)
>
> The conclusion from watching what engines made it to TBO was that the
> IGSO-540 was born in an era when "straight mineral oil" was all there was
and
> the engines run on this really well.
>
> For sure there have been advances in oil and metallurgy in the past 60
years,
> so there's a lot of attractive alternatives.
>
> I always operated IGSO-540s with a single weight oil and the heaviest
> viscosity possible for the environment to avoid thin oil at high temps
which
> causes the Simmonds to go too rich on landing roll-out and taxi in.
>
> Wing Commander Gordon
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com
I strongly agree with you about running thick oil due to the Simmonds
richness problem. As my old engines got to be high time, I started using 60
wt. and it seemed to help. I never go "off idle" (1,300 engine RPM) until
the oil temp is over 100 degrees.
The new engines were done by Performance Aero, Brackett Field, LaVerne, Ca.
Ron has a really first class shop with many years of experience. He does
engines for acrobatic planes, and air racers (Reno Lancair types), which are
non certified. There is an article about his shop and engine stroker kits in
the April 2003 issue of Custom Planes magazine.
While we are "shop bashing," another shop to avoid is Linn's Aircraft engines
at the El Monte, CA. airport, unless, they have changed drastically in the
last few years. We sent two very low time Cont. engines over for inspection
after a gear up. They supposedly replaced about everything in the engines,
conveniently lost all of my old parts before I could get there to have a look
(about one hour).
Moe
N680RR
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
HI KIDS....
Welcome two new members the TCFG First is Jim Carroll of
Issaquah Washington (Seattle, sort of) Jim flies a 182 but is looking to own
a commander someday (By the way, last year or so we had three no owners
become Commander owners, Yea!!)
Next is Paul Seales form Los Fresno TX He owns a 680FP. I had the
opportunity to meet Paul at the Commander U. It was great that Moe Mills was
also there so they could talk "Skydrollese" together.
Welcome to both of you. Hope all is well in Commanderland. jb
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| Subject: | COMMANDER ENGINE OIL |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
For what it's worth, I have flown Continental TSIO 520s for about 1200 hours
and TIO541, & IO540s for about 1500 hours and had much more trouble and oil
consumption using multi weight oils than when I've used straight weight.
I've tried Mobil Synthetic, Aero Shell 15-50 and Phillips 15-50 and I don't
like any of em. Our IA mechanic has a fit because I won't allow Aero shell
15-50 to be used in our Aerostar or 210, but I don't care, I've used it
before and it blows through the breather, leaks and breaks down more than
Aero shell 100, for spring summer and fall or 80 for winter. I'm talking
about the Ashless Disprsement oil, not Mineral oil. In my humble opinion,
the Multi Weights are a marketing ploy to make money, straight weights are
just plain better and they're cheaper to boot.
KVJ
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Subject: Re: Commander-List: COMMANDER ENGINE OIL
--> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com
I strongly agree with you about running thick oil due to the Simmonds
richness problem. As my old engines got to be high time, I started using 60
wt. and it seemed to help. I never go "off idle" (1,300 engine RPM) until
the oil temp is over 100 degrees.
The new engines were done by Performance Aero, Brackett Field, LaVerne, Ca.
Ron has a really first class shop with many years of experience. He does
engines for acrobatic planes, and air racers (Reno Lancair types), which are
non certified. There is an article about his shop and engine stroker kits
in
the April 2003 issue of Custom Planes magazine.
While we are "shop bashing," another shop to avoid is Linn's Aircraft
engines
at the El Monte, CA. airport, unless, they have changed drastically in the
last few years. We sent two very low time Cont. engines over for inspection
after a gear up. They supposedly replaced about everything in the engines,
conveniently lost all of my old parts before I could get there to have a
look
(about one hour).
Moe
N680RR
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| Subject: | Re: COMMANDER ENGINE OIL |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 4/9/2003 2:18:46 PM Pacific Standard Time,
MOEMILLS@aol.com writes:
> Any suggestions?
I use Philips X-Country. I used it in the Duke and really liked it. So far
(285 hours) it has worked well in the GSO-480s. Morris K also likes the
stuff.
Just last month Richard Collins, of Flying Mag, wrote a piece on the
8K hours he has flown his TIO-520. He commented that not all his engines
made it to TBO, but all of the ones that did, were run on X-County.
There are as many opinions as there are types of oil, so.......
PS I use Aeroshell W-120 in the R-985, go figure. ;_)
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