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1. 09:55 AM - GEARED ENGINE OH (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
2. 10:07 AM - Re: GEARED ENGINE OH (CloudCraft@aol.com)
3. 11:40 AM - Re: GEARED ENGINE OH (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
4. 12:09 PM - Re: GEARED ENGINE OH (Maxime Gou)
5. 12:27 PM - Re: GEARED ENGINE OH (MOEMILLS@aol.com)
6. 12:38 PM - Re: GEARED ENGINE OH (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
7. 01:30 PM - Re: GEARED ENGINE OH (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
8. 01:31 PM - Re: GEARED ENGINE OH (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
9. 01:39 PM - Re: GEARED ENGINE OH (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
10. 01:49 PM - Re: GEARED ENGINE OH (Nico van Niekerk)
11. 01:57 PM - Re: GEARED ENGINE OH (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
12. 04:07 PM - Re: GEARED ENGINE OH (MOEMILLS@aol.com)
13. 06:37 PM - pugly piper pix (Chris Schuermann)
14. 09:06 PM - Re: GEARED ENGINE OH (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
15. 09:08 PM - Re: GEARED ENGINE OH (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
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| Subject: | GEARED ENGINE OH |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
HI KIDS.
Anybody have a good shop that will do O/H on geared engines??
I am putting the finishing touches on an article about geared O/H and would
love to hear of any shops that might do them and do a good job. thanks. jb
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| Subject: | Re: GEARED ENGINE OH |
--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
No article on geared engine O/H would be complete without:
George Czarnecki
Central Cylinder
6315 Lindbergh Dr
Omaha NE 68110
tel. 402-451-6468
fax. 402-451-3202
<A HREF="http://www.centralcylinder.com/">Central Cylinder Service, Inc. ~ Aircraft Engine Rebuilders ~
centralcylinder.com
And specifically, follow their link to their "specialties" page - geared
Lycomings:
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Re: GEARED ENGINE OH |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 4/18/2003 10:07:33 AM Pacific Standard Time,
CloudCraft@aol.com writes:
> No article on geared engine O/H would be complete without:
Will do!! jb
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| Subject: | Re: GEARED ENGINE OH |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Maxime Gou" <maximegou@hotmail.com>
please remove me from your list
>From: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>Reply-To: commander-list@matronics.com
>To: commander-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Commander-List: GEARED ENGINE OH
>Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 14:40:08 EDT
>
>--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 4/18/2003 10:07:33 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>CloudCraft@aol.com writes:
>
> > No article on geared engine O/H would be complete without:
>
>Will do!! jb
>
>
MSN Search, le moteur de recherche qui pense comme vous !
http://fr.ca.search.msn.com/
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| Subject: | Re: GEARED ENGINE OH |
--> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com
J B
I just had Ron at Performance Aero do both of my engines. I am very
impressed with his shop, and general knowledge. I have put nine hours on one
engine and one hour on the other just yesterday. The frequent flying starts
this afternoon, so I will keep you updated.
In dealing with in the past we have found Ron to be a very honest and fair
person. His shop does many engines for acrobatic pilots, as well as Reno
racer types, so a lot of his work is for "non certified" engines. See the
April 2003 issue of "Custom Planes" for info. on his AEIO-580 stroker kits
(600 cubic inches).
The frequent flying starts this afternoon, so I should have some time on the
engines soon.
While I certainly do not wish to speak unkindly about Central Cylinder, they
rebuilt a Simmonds pump a while back ($4,000.00) and within a few hours it
had leaked so much fuel back into the crankcase, that oil pressure was lost,
and this most likely caused premature wear to the engine. It just goes to
show that we are all human, and anyone can make a mistake.
Best regards,
Moe
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| Subject: | Re: GEARED ENGINE OH |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" <rcdettmer@charter.net>
I have always heard good things about Central Cylinder. They did the
overhauls on my IGSO 540's (AC680F), which are running fine at 400 hours.
However, they started leaking oil out the top of the case halves at about
150 hours (both engines), and now create a huge mess of oil blown all over
the engines, cowls, tail, etc. I have to wipe everything down after flying
for more than an hour or so to keep up with it...it's a real pain.
Apparently, they didn't get a good seal at the case halves, didn't torque
the bolts properly or ???.
Morris Kernick will try to come up with a fix at my next annual. But short
of pulling the engines and splitting the halves, I don't know what to do.
Randy Dettmer
680F/N6253X
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From: <MOEMILLS@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: GEARED ENGINE OH
> --> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com
>
> J B
>
> I just had Ron at Performance Aero do both of my engines. I am very
> impressed with his shop, and general knowledge. I have put nine hours on
one
> engine and one hour on the other just yesterday. The frequent flying
starts
> this afternoon, so I will keep you updated.
>
> In dealing with in the past we have found Ron to be a very honest and
fair
> person. His shop does many engines for acrobatic pilots, as well as Reno
> racer types, so a lot of his work is for "non certified" engines. See the
> April 2003 issue of "Custom Planes" for info. on his AEIO-580 stroker kits
> (600 cubic inches).
>
> The frequent flying starts this afternoon, so I should have some time on
the
> engines soon.
>
> While I certainly do not wish to speak unkindly about Central Cylinder,
they
> rebuilt a Simmonds pump a while back ($4,000.00) and within a few hours it
> had leaked so much fuel back into the crankcase, that oil pressure was
lost,
> and this most likely caused premature wear to the engine. It just goes to
> show that we are all human, and anyone can make a mistake.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Moe
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GEARED ENGINE OH |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 4/18/2003 12:10:05 PM Pacific Standard Time,
maximegou@hotmail.com writes:
> please remove me from your list
Go to Martonics. com and you can remove yourself. Bye jb
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| Subject: | Re: GEARED ENGINE OH |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 4/18/2003 12:27:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,
MOEMILLS@aol.com writes:
> I just had Ron at Performance Aero do both of my engines. I am very
> impressed with his shop, and general knowledge. I have put nine hours on
> one
> engine and one hour on the other just yesterday. The frequent flying starts
>
> this afternoon, so I will keep you updated.
>
Do you have contact information for him?? jb
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| Subject: | Re: GEARED ENGINE OH |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 4/18/2003 12:38:19 PM Pacific Standard Time,
rcdettmer@charter.net writes:
> I have always heard good things about Central Cylinder. They did the
> overhauls on my IGSO 540's (AC680F), which are running fine at 400 hours.
> However, they started leaking oil out the top of the case halves at about
> 150 hours (both engines), and now create a huge mess of oil blown all over
> the engines, cowls, tail, etc. I have to wipe everything down after flying
> for more than an hour or so to keep up with it...it's a real pain.
> Apparently, they didn't get a good seal at the case halves, didn't torque
> the bolts properly or ???.
I will include them. Try this for you case halves. (I will never admit to
doing this, I just "heard" it works;-))
1Run engines and warm them to near operating temp.
2 .Using a wire "toothbrush" and acetone, clean the tar out of the case
split and wipe with clean cloth
3 Mix a small amount of JB weld and apply to the case split. The heat will
flow the material and make it look super smooth. It also makes the material
less viscous so it penetrates a ways into the split.
4 allow at least 24 hr before running the engines. Good of 500 - 600hr (so
I am told) It will not have any adverse effect at OH since the case cleaning
process will easily dispatch any remaining material. Repeat as nessecary.
Good luck jb
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| Subject: | Re: GEARED ENGINE OH |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Nico van Niekerk" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Is the JB weld from jb like a moonshine home brew?
----- Original Message -----
From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: GEARED ENGINE OH
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 4/18/2003 12:38:19 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> rcdettmer@charter.net writes:
>
> > I have always heard good things about Central Cylinder. They did the
> > overhauls on my IGSO 540's (AC680F), which are running fine at 400
hours.
> > However, they started leaking oil out the top of the case halves at
about
> > 150 hours (both engines), and now create a huge mess of oil blown all
over
> > the engines, cowls, tail, etc. I have to wipe everything down after
flying
> > for more than an hour or so to keep up with it...it's a real pain.
> > Apparently, they didn't get a good seal at the case halves, didn't
torque
> > the bolts properly or ???.
>
> I will include them. Try this for you case halves. (I will never admit
to
> doing this, I just "heard" it works;-))
> 1Run engines and warm them to near operating temp.
> 2 .Using a wire "toothbrush" and acetone, clean the tar out of the case
> split and wipe with clean cloth
> 3 Mix a small amount of JB weld and apply to the case split. The heat
will
> flow the material and make it look super smooth. It also makes the
material
> less viscous so it penetrates a ways into the split.
> 4 allow at least 24 hr before running the engines. Good of 500 - 600hr
(so
> I am told) It will not have any adverse effect at OH since the case
cleaning
> process will easily dispatch any remaining material. Repeat as nessecary.
> Good luck jb
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GEARED ENGINE OH |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" <rcdettmer@charter.net>
Thanks JB...we'll give it a try.
RD
----- Original Message -----
From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: GEARED ENGINE OH
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 4/18/2003 12:38:19 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> rcdettmer@charter.net writes:
>
> > I have always heard good things about Central Cylinder. They did the
> > overhauls on my IGSO 540's (AC680F), which are running fine at 400
hours.
> > However, they started leaking oil out the top of the case halves at
about
> > 150 hours (both engines), and now create a huge mess of oil blown all
over
> > the engines, cowls, tail, etc. I have to wipe everything down after
flying
> > for more than an hour or so to keep up with it...it's a real pain.
> > Apparently, they didn't get a good seal at the case halves, didn't
torque
> > the bolts properly or ???.
>
> I will include them. Try this for you case halves. (I will never admit
to
> doing this, I just "heard" it works;-))
> 1Run engines and warm them to near operating temp.
> 2 .Using a wire "toothbrush" and acetone, clean the tar out of the case
> split and wipe with clean cloth
> 3 Mix a small amount of JB weld and apply to the case split. The heat
will
> flow the material and make it look super smooth. It also makes the
material
> less viscous so it penetrates a ways into the split.
> 4 allow at least 24 hr before running the engines. Good of 500 - 600hr
(so
> I am told) It will not have any adverse effect at OH since the case
cleaning
> process will easily dispatch any remaining material. Repeat as nessecary.
> Good luck jb
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GEARED ENGINE OH |
--> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com
Performance Aero Engines
Bracket Airport
1935 McKinley Ave #C
Laverne, CA 91750
Phone 909.593.5008
Fax 909.593.3774
www.performanceaeroengines.com
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net>
have had several inquiries as to how our piper restoration is
progressing so I've slapped up a few pictures in case anyone is interested:
http://members.cox.net/cschuerm/
chris
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| Subject: | Re: GEARED ENGINE OH |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
THANKS MOE. jb
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| Subject: | Re: GEARED ENGINE OH |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 4/18/2003 1:49:32 PM Pacific Standard Time,
nico@cybersuperstore.com writes:
> Is the JB weld from jb like a moonshine home brew?
I wish I got a penny every time they sold some!! jb, or JB
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