---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 05/09/03: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:51 AM - e-bay photo (Barry Collman) 2. 12:02 PM - Re: e-bay photo (andrew.bridget@shaw.ca) 3. 04:37 PM - 520 speeds, etc (Bruce Campbell) 4. 07:05 PM - Re: 520 speeds, etc (Jim Crunkleton) 5. 07:46 PM - Re: 520 speeds, etc (Tom Fisher) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:51:18 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Commander-List: e-bay photo --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Hi One-and-All, There's a photo up for grabs on e-bay, of a Korean National Police Commander, '507'. Not a particularly good shot, being stripped in a hangar for maintenance, but needs must.......it's a pretty rare shot by an extremely good phtographer, Roger Catarini. Before I bid on it, I wanted to make sure nobody else on the list is 'going for it'. If they are...................standy by for a battle!!!!!! Very Best Regards, Barry C. UK CommanderLand rep. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:02:15 PM PST US From: andrew.bridget@shaw.ca Subject: Re: Commander-List: e-bay photo --> Commander-List message posted by: andrew.bridget@shaw.ca Barry, There's another photo of an Aero Commander on e-bay, besides the one you mentioned. Item # 2173357985 No, I won't be bidding on it. Regards, Andrew. ----- Original Message ----- From: Barry Collman Subject: Commander-List: e-bay photo > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" > > > Hi One-and-All, > > There's a photo up for grabs on e-bay, of a Korean National Police > Commander,'507'. > > Not a particularly good shot, being stripped in a hangar for > maintenance, but > needs must.......it's a pretty rare shot by an extremely good > phtographer, Roger > Catarini. > > Before I bid on it, I wanted to make sure nobody else on the list > is 'going for > it'. > > If they are...................standy by for a battle!!!!!! > > Very Best Regards, > > Barry C. > UK CommanderLand rep. > > > _- > _- > _- > _- > ====================================================================== > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:37:56 PM PST US From: "Bruce Campbell" Subject: Commander-List: 520 speeds, etc --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell" To all of the 520 and 560 drivers out there: We're having one heck of a time getting 86B to descend down the ILS in a dignified manner. The net is that we are carrying 15" mp MP (props at 2600) with half flaps, and at 115 mph we are descending at about 400 fpm, about half of what we want. I suspct that if we flew the ILS at 90mph everything would be fine, but at boeing field (which really has boeings operating there regularly ) such things are just not possible. Also, if we brought the engines back to idle I think we could do whatever, but new gearboxes would be in order before the next flight. We've tried with full flaps, and everything is peachy unless we had to go around, in which case the climb rate would be quite poor until the flaps were raised (remember, I have 560 horses...). So... does anyone with geared engines and a short body have a recommended procedure we can try? Do we: go to 3000 on the props (in which case they may windmill and stress the gear box) bring the power back to say, 13" ? (same concern) fly the approach at full flaps ( if we have to go around, just deal with it) fly the approach at 140 mph until short final (hard on the brakes and difficult on short runways) Does the 560 or 560a manual have anything to say about this?????? Thanks again. Note, she *is* flying. Bruce Campbell ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:05:41 PM PST US From: "Jim Crunkleton" Subject: Re: Commander-List: 520 speeds, etc --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Crunkleton" Bruce, Use 3000 rpm and 15" with full flaps. Trust me, a go-around is NOT a problem. Configure early and you'll have no problem. (Waay Early!) Jim Crunkleton ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:52 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: 520 speeds, etc --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" You also need more than a 400 fpm descent rate if @ 115 knots to maintain a 3 degree glide slope. Tom F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Crunkleton" Subject: Re: Commander-List: 520 speeds, etc > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Crunkleton" > > Bruce, > Use 3000 rpm and 15" with full flaps. Trust me, a go-around is NOT a > problem. Configure early and you'll have no problem. (Waay Early!) > Jim Crunkleton > >