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1. 03:34 PM - Re: Re: Fly in (Barry Collman)
2. 04:33 PM - Re: Re: Fly in (RnJThompson@aol.com)
3. 04:33 PM - Re: Re: Fly in (RnJThompson@aol.com)
4. 05:18 PM - Re: Re: Fly in (rlegg@austarnet.com.au)
5. 07:06 PM - Re: ebay - Zippo lighter (Bill Hamilton)
6. 08:02 PM - Question for Nico - or anyone else who may know South Africa (Andrew & Bridget Watson)
7. 08:22 PM - a couple changes... (Stephen Crow)
8. 08:40 PM - Re: a couple changes... (Andrew & Bridget Watson)
9. 08:55 PM - Re: a couple changes... (Stephen Crow)
10. 10:03 PM - Re: a couple changes... (Tom Fisher)
11. 10:36 PM - Re: a couple changes... (Nico van Niekerk)
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Oh heck!
Does this mean we won't hear "Commander, Victor Hotel - Charlie Alfa X-Ray,
contact Dayton Approach on 118.85" next September?
Barry C.
UK CommanderLand rep.
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From: <RnJThompson@aol.com>
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Fly in
| --> Commander-List message posted by: RnJThompson@aol.com
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| Hi JB
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| Hope all is well in the US. Have got power on the old bird. After all the
dissconnects only a couplr of things dont work.One of the classics was having to
push the Rh start to turn the LH engine. The electrical fellow has about two
days work left on it. I have fitted the center and RH fwd and aft tanks, the LH
ones should be here in about a week. Absolute bastard of a job. I cleaned and
reprimed the fuel bays and have fitted new tubes. Hopefully we will be able to
fill the center tanks soon.
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| In regard to the flyin ,are you going in 222? If so are you looking for a
passenger or two. The reason being I would like to get a little engine handling
experience from a master before I get too clever in mine. There seems to be a
wealth of experience in OZ, unfortunately all opinions are different and based
on experience a long time ago, nobody is current.
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| Will speak to you soon.
| Regards,
| Richard
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--> Commander-List message posted by: RnJThompson@aol.com
Barry,
Unfortunately the old bird wont be finished in time. I am seriously looking at
doing the trip in the future, maybe take in Oshkosh, Reno and the fly in, might
even carry on going.
I am still trying to get hold of a few parts. Then she needs a paint job. Then
a good shake down like a trip around OZ ( at least there is somewhere to land
if things go pear shaped and you dont have too far to swim)
Regards,
Richard
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--> Commander-List message posted by: RnJThompson@aol.com
Barry,
Unfortunately the old bird wont be finished in time. I am seriously looking at
doing the trip in the future, maybe take in Oshkosh, Reno and the fly in, might
even carry on going.
I am still trying to get hold of a few parts. Then she needs a paint job. Then
a good shake down like a trip around OZ ( at least there is somewhere to land
if things go pear shaped and you dont have too far to swim)
Regards,
Richard
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--> Commander-List message posted by: rlegg@austarnet.com.au
Sir Barry!!
I know Richard and I promised to bring CAX along to Miamisburg two
years ago...but another year or so will be worth the wait!
We might even be able to arrange for you to come down under and cross
the pacific in a Commander on the way to the next fly-in. We will need
someone to keep the skin on the pear!
Long live Oz Commanders!
Cheers
Russell
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| Subject: | Re: ebay - Zippo lighter |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Bill Hamilton <fighterf@ozemail.com.au>
Barry,
I only just noticed your email address. Is Charles Oman still around, as I
recall he was an Air Britain enthusiast in years gone by.
Regards,
Bill Hamilton.
At 09:17 PM 12/05/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Commander-List message posted by: Dan Farmer <daniellfarmer@yahoo.com>
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>No I am not bidding but I will be arriving LHR on AA57 the 14th. We stay
>at the Le Meridian right near LHR. If you will email me you phone number
>I will try to get in touch with you. dan farmercommander wanna be
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>Barry Collman <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk> wrote:--> Commander-List
>message posted by: "Barry Collman"
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>Hi again gang,
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>As well as my ebay bid for the photo, I thought I'd try for the 1950's Zippo
>lighter, with the Aero Commander logo on it.
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>I've been outbid!!
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>Is there someone on the list bidding against me?
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>If not, I'll re-bid a tad higher.
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>Barry C.
>UK CommanderLand rep
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| Subject: | Question for Nico - or anyone else who may know South |
Africa
--> Commander-List message posted by: Andrew & Bridget Watson <andrew.bridget@shaw.ca>
Hi Nico,
Just polishing up and putting some finishing touches on my book - do you know where
the Johannesburg TMA boundary was between Messina and JNB - around Pietersburg,
perhaps?
I've had some good feedback on the book - the folks who have read it all say I
have a good chance in getting it published, but we will have to wait to see what
the Agents say.
One other thing, if you don't mind, I have a situation where a flight plan is filed
in flight, and was wondering whether I have this correct... (it has been
15 years since I last flew!)
Lee, the pilot, has been contacted by AFB Pietersburg and they request a flight
plan, and Lee responds:
"Pietersburg, Zulu Sierra Lima Mike Hotel, a Shrike Commander, was airborne Sand
River Ranch, Zimbabwe, at." Lee glanced at his watch, "at one nine three five
Zulu, speed one six five knots, flight level nine five, Johannesburg boundary
at two zero four five, for Smuts at two one three zero. I have four hours endurance,
and we are one plus one on board, over."
Does this sound right?
Your assistance is appreciated, Nico! Thanks!
Regards,
Andrew.
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| Subject: | a couple changes... |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Stephen Crow <k4cpx@arrl.net>
"Pietersburg, Zulu Sierra Lima Mike Hotel, a Shrike Commander, off Sand River Ranch,
Zimbabwe, at." Lee glanced at his watch, "at one nine three five Zulu, speed
one six five knots, altitude nine point five, Johannesburg boundary at two
zero four five, estimating Smuts at two one three zero. fuel on board four hours
, and we are two souls on board. over."
Steve C.
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| Subject: | Re: a couple changes... |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Andrew & Bridget Watson <andrew.bridget@shaw.ca>
Thanks, Steve - is this the US format for Flight Plans, or the South African
format?
Regards,
Andrew.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Crow" <k4cpx@arrl.net>
Subject: Commander-List: a couple changes...
> --> Commander-List message posted by: Stephen Crow <k4cpx@arrl.net>
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> "Pietersburg, Zulu Sierra Lima Mike Hotel, a Shrike Commander, off Sand
River Ranch, Zimbabwe, at." Lee glanced at his watch, "at one nine three
five Zulu, speed one six five knots, altitude nine point five, Johannesburg
boundary at two zero four five, estimating Smuts at two one three zero. fuel
on board four hours , and we are two souls on board. over."
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> Steve C.
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| Subject: | Re: a couple changes... |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Stephen Crow <k4cpx@arrl.net>
US
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew & Bridget Watson
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: a couple changes...
--> Commander-List message posted by: Andrew & Bridget Watson <andrew.bridget@shaw.ca>
Thanks, Steve - is this the US format for Flight Plans, or the South African
format?
Regards,
Andrew.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Crow" <k4cpx@arrl.net>
To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Commander-List: a couple changes...
> --> Commander-List message posted by: Stephen Crow <k4cpx@arrl.net>
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> "Pietersburg, Zulu Sierra Lima Mike Hotel, a Shrike Commander, off Sand
River Ranch, Zimbabwe, at." Lee glanced at his watch, "at one nine three
five Zulu, speed one six five knots, altitude nine point five, Johannesburg
boundary at two zero four five, estimating Smuts at two one three zero. fuel
on board four hours , and we are two souls on board. over."
>
> Steve C.
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| Subject: | Re: a couple changes... |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
My $.02 worth.
In the words "a Shrike Commander" I would not say "a", I would just say
"Shrike Commander".
What about the "nine" word, as I do not know when or who is flying, what
about "niner"?
Are you using HF? If so ok on the "over" part.
Tom F.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Crow" <k4cpx@arrl.net>
Subject: Commander-List: a couple changes...
> --> Commander-List message posted by: Stephen Crow <k4cpx@arrl.net>
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> "Pietersburg, Zulu Sierra Lima Mike Hotel, a Shrike Commander, off Sand
River Ranch, Zimbabwe, at." Lee glanced at his watch, "at one nine three
five Zulu, speed one six five knots, altitude nine point five, Johannesburg
boundary at two zero four five, estimating Smuts at two one three zero. fuel
on board four hours , and we are two souls on board. over."
>
> Steve C.
>
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| Subject: | Re: a couple changes... |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Nico van Niekerk" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Andrew
I agree with Tom, you would say 'niner' but not 'two souls'. We used to
report the 'souls' (some folks were hardly worth that) on board as crew+pax,
such as one plus three for four souls. You have it right.
Didn't Pietersburg have it's own TMA because of the airforce base over
there? How come I recall having to QSY to Pietersburg on my way to Tzaneen
or Phalaborwa?
I don't know if some of the charts survived the move to the US, but I am
sure you can get that info from the CAA in Pretoria. Perhaps if you could
email a good friend of mine from the 60's - Keith Smith at Wonderboom in
Pretoria, he would surely be able to help you. Keith is currently the
Enstrom agent in South Africa and he is a Grade I instructor with helicopter
and other ratings.
By the way, Keith was the instructor in the flight in the Apache when a
student feathered the left engine during a multi engine conversion
engine-out practice, and they crashed in someone's back yard adjacent to the
airport. If I remember I will upload the pictures of the wreck showing the
left engine feathered. That was a week after I did my ME in that plane.
Keith can be contacted at keith@enstrom.co.za or you can visit his website
at www.enstrom.co.za
Let me know if you had any luck.
Thanks
Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: a couple changes...
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher"
<tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
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> My $.02 worth.
> In the words "a Shrike Commander" I would not say "a", I would just say
> "Shrike Commander".
> What about the "nine" word, as I do not know when or who is flying, what
> about "niner"?
> Are you using HF? If so ok on the "over" part.
>
> Tom F.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Crow" <k4cpx@arrl.net>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Commander-List: a couple changes...
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> > --> Commander-List message posted by: Stephen Crow <k4cpx@arrl.net>
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> > "Pietersburg, Zulu Sierra Lima Mike Hotel, a Shrike Commander, off Sand
> River Ranch, Zimbabwe, at." Lee glanced at his watch, "at one nine three
> five Zulu, speed one six five knots, altitude nine point five,
Johannesburg
> boundary at two zero four five, estimating Smuts at two one three zero.
fuel
> on board four hours , and we are two souls on board. over."
> >
> > Steve C.
> >
> >
>
>
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