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1. 06:13 AM - Re: Fw: Fw: President Bush / Miami / Tampa (Bill Bow)
2. 06:13 AM - Re: 500A Props (Bill Bow)
3. 06:33 AM - Fw: Check out 06/30: AirTran to order up to 114 Boeing jets-sources (JETPAUL@aol.com)
4. 07:23 AM - Re: Fw: Check out 06/30: AirTran to order up to 114 Boeing ... (CloudCraft@aol.com)
5. 01:26 PM - Where's Waldo? (Dan Dominguez)
6. 05:28 PM - new kids (Bill Bow)
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: President Bush / Miami / Tampa |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
It wasn't his throat that I think should have been cut.
bilbo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Hamilton" <fighterf@ozemail.com.au>
Subject: Re: Fw: Commander-List: Fw: President Bush / Miami / Tampa
> --> Commander-List message posted by: Bill Hamilton
<fighterf@ozemail.com.au>
>
>
> All,
> I had a 4 hour delay the day the day Clinton had his hair cut on the end
of
> 25R at KLAX, they should have cut his throat, I already had a 15 hour
> flight time sector ahead of me, we just made it with minuted to spare in
> our heavy crew duty limit of 20h, I was on the way to Melbourne YMML,
> direct from KLAX.
> What was so infuriating about the episode is that there are two perfectly
> good, ( and more secure than the eastern fence at KLAX, right by a main
> road) VIP spots on the western remote ramp, where AirForce 1 and similar
> always go.
> Cheers,
> Bill Hamilton.
>
>
> At 09:27 PM 27/06/03 -0400, you wrote:
> >--> Commander-List message posted by: Stephen Crow <k4cpx@arrl.net>
> >
> >I would think that a President who is a pilot would understand what
> >tremendous inconveniences he causes by allowing these ridiculous flight
> >restrictions. Just look at the list of airports, large and small that are
> >effected. He reminds me of the time Clinton allowed an entire airport to
> >be shutdown while he had a leisurely haircut in a parked A/F One.
> >This present President knows better and choses to ignore the difficulties
> >he causes. Yeah, I know "He doesn't set these rules".
> >BS He could stop this idiosy with three short words "Cut the Crap!".
> >The aviation world should be screaming to him personally. I don't think
> >he's totally deaf.
> >Steve C.
> >
> >====================================================================
> >Subject: Commander-List: Fw: President Bush / Miami / Tampa
> >
> >
> >--> Commander-List message posted by: Stephen Crow <k4cpx@arrl.net>
> >
> >More damn restrictions!
> >Steve C.
> >====================================
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: JERRYROOKS@aol.com
> >
> >Subject: President Bush / Miami / Tampa
> >
> >
> >AOPA ePilot Special Airspace Bulletin June 27, 2003
> >
> >A special notice to AOPA members in the Florida area
> >
> >
> >==> ATTENTION PILOTS <==
> >
> >FAA TO ACTIVATE 30-NM TFRs OVER MIAMI AND TAMPA
> >AOPA is sending this message to advise you that the FAA will establish
> >30-nm-radius temporary flight restrictions (TFRs) over Miami and
> >Tampa when President Bush travels to the cities on Monday, June 30.
> >
> >AOPA continues to lobby for more reasonably sized presidential
> >movement TFRs, absent a specific and credible threat. The association
> >maintains almost daily contact with the FAA, the Transportation
> >Security Administration (TSA), and officials responsible for the
> >president's security.
> >
> >The Miami TFR will be in effect from 11:20 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. local
> >on Monday and prohibits aircraft within a 10-mile radius of the DHP
> >vortac's 99-degree radial at 7.9 miles (near the Orange Bowl). The
> >Tampa TFR will be in effect from 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. local on Monday and
> >prohibits general aviation aircraft within a 10-mile radius of the PIE
> >vortac's 62-degree radial at 9 miles (essentially over Tampa
> >International Airport).
> >
> >Between 10 and 30 nm from the center of both TFRs and below 18,000
> >feet, flight operations are only permitted for ingress or egress.
> >Aircraft must be on an active IFR or VFR flight plan with a discrete
> >transponder code assigned by air traffic control, and maintain
> >two-way radio communications. The notam says that air traffic
> >control may authorize transient operations.
> >
> >The impacted landing facilities for Miami are Miami Heliport (X48),
> >Miami SPB (X44), Miami International (MIA), Opa Locka (OPF), North
> >Perry (HWO), Kendall-Tamiami Executive (TMB), Opa Locka West (X46),
> >Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood International (FLL), Downtown Fort
> >Lauderdale Heliport (DT1), Motorsports Complex EMS Heliport (MC4),
> >Motorsports Complex VIP Heliport (VI2), Fort Lauderdale Executive
> >(FXE), Homestead General Aviation (X51), and Pompano Beach Airpark
> >(PMP).
> >
> >The impacted landing facilities for Tampa are Tampa International
> >(TPA), Peter O. Knight (TPF), St. Petersburg-Clearwater International
> >(PIE), Vandenberg (VDF), Clearwater Air Park (CLW), Albert Whitted
> >(SPG), Tampa North Aero Park (X39), Plant City Municipal (PCM),
> >Airport Manatee (48X), Pilot Country (X05), Zephyrhills Municipal
> >(ZPH), Lakeland Linder Regional (LAL), South Lakeland (X49), and
> >Hernando County (BKV).
> >
> >Pilots are strongly encouraged to check notams prior to all flights
> >as changes have occurred with many of these presidential TFRs. See
> >AOPA Online for the full text of the Miami notam
> >( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html#3/5150 ) or Tampa notam
> >( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html#3/5149 ).
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
That's one.
bilbo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Dominguez" <dan@worldflight2000.com>
Subject: Commander-List: 500A Props
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Dan Dominguez"
<dan@worldflight2000.com>
>
> Bilbo-
> We would be very interested. SN1258 N152K
>
>
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| Subject: | Fwd: Check out 06/30: AirTran to order up to 114 Boeing |
jets-sources
jpowell717@msn.com, b.rutledge@charter.net, Wingnut195@cs.com,
stubie@mindspring.com, bray0@dellepro.com, C04Glenn.Dahl@USAFA.edu,
case@mindspring.com, COMMANDER560@cs.com, commander-list@matronics.com,
Crunk1@direcway.com, cwall@worldflight2000.com, dbrunson@charter.net,
Dtihs@aol.com, Flyinjetz@aol.com, Jpillatzki@702com.net, jsalex2@msn.com,
Kurtkitchens@aol.com, lfloyd@cswnet.com, DuckRyder@att.net,
Carter1984@aol.com, sdg@negia.net, NANNANPC@aol.com, tdphep@earthlink.net,
allen_reed2@hotmail.com, B777atkins@aol.com, rsfamily@cfl.rr.com,
TAYLORMS1@aol.com, TILLMAN333@aol.com
--> Commander-List message posted by: JETPAUL@aol.com
6 BILLION Dollars worth of new airplanes!!!! YEAH BABY!!!!
Paul Reason
From: Critterwife95@aol.com
Subject: Check out 06/30: AirTran to order up to 114 Boeing jets-sources
<A HREF="aol://4344:30.LH1DBLFW.5294691.741484696">Click here: 06/30: AirTran
to order up to 114 Boeing jets-sources
<A HREF"aol://4344:30.LH1DBLFW.5294691.741484696">Click here: 06/30: AirTran to
order up to 114 Boeing jets-sources
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Check out 06/30: AirTran to order up to 114 |
Boeing ...
--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 07/01/03 06:34:18 Pacific Daylight Time, JETPAUL@aol.com
writes:
> 6 BILLION Dollars worth of new airplanes!!!! YEAH BABY!!!!
And another damn type rating course for you, young man.
Wing Commander Gordon
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Dan Dominguez" <dan@worldflight2000.com>
A few web page updates:
1) Links in Maintenance Dept have been fixed.
2) More pictures of aircraft added.
3)Information regarding Commander Fly in will be continually updated on the site.
4) Daisy's Desk has been upgraded to a corner office with more useful functions. She now has her own address for those of you that want quick "access" at www.daisysdesk.com
5) Mango Airways is giving away a day pass to the Dayton Air Force Museum during
the Twin Commander Fly in this September. Unfortunately Daisy's run off with
Waldo somewhere on the Aerocommander.com web page and we can't find either of
them. Find Waldo and you'll find Daisy. Find him first and you get the free
ticket.
Dan
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
I was driving past a little airstrip on the other side of town and saw a
Shrike 333BE and a 560F. That means the Commander population has tripled
overnight.
amazing,
bilbo
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