---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/07/03: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:20 AM - F14 throw down (css nico) 2. 08:28 AM - Re: F14 throw down (Randy Dettmer, AIA) 3. 08:38 AM - Re: Re: Wanted: Commander to BUY (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 4. 08:41 AM - Re: Re: Wanted: Commander to BUY (TILLMAN333@aol.com) 5. 09:33 AM - Aero Design Logo (Brock Lorber - VegasFC) 6. 10:53 AM - Re: Aero Design Logo (css nico) 7. 11:00 AM - Re: Aero Design Logo (Kelly Piper) 8. 12:04 PM - Re: Aero Design Logo (Victor Fernandez Cochon) 9. 02:35 PM - Re: Aero Design Logo (Jim Addington) 10. 07:22 PM - Re: Re: Wanted: Commander to BUY (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 11. 10:37 PM - Re: Aero Design Logo (rlegg@austarnet.com.au) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:43 AM PST US From: "css nico" Subject: Commander-List: F14 throw down --> Commander-List message posted by: "css nico" A friend forwarded this to me today. Nico I don' know if all y'all read Sports Illustrated, but this is really funny. Rick Reilly is the weekly back cover columnist and even though I don't always agree with his editorial perspective, he's a good writer with a great sense of humor. He recently got a chance to fly in an F-14:Wild Tomcat Now this message is for America's most famous athletes: Someday you may be invited to fly in the back-seat of one of your country's most powerful fighter jets. Many of you already have -- John Elway, John Stockton, Tiger Woods to name a few. If you get this opportunity, let me urge you, with the greatest sincerity ..... Move to Guam. Change your name. Fake your own death. Whatever you do, do not go. I know. The U.S. Navy invited me to try it. I was thrilled. I was pumped. I was toast! I should've known when they told me my pilot would be Chip (Biff) King of Fighter Squadron 213 at Naval Air Station Oceana in Virginia Beach. Whatever you're thinking a Top Gun named Chip (Biff) King looks like, triple it. He's about six-foot, tan, ice-blue eyes, wavy surfer hair, finger- crippling handshake -- the kind of man who wrestles dyspeptic alligators in his leisure time. If you see this man, run the other way. Fast. Biff King was born to fly. His father, Jack King, was for years the voice of NASA missions. ("T-minus 15 seconds and counting...." Remember?) Chip would charge neighborhood kids a quarter each to hear his dad. Jack would wake up from naps surrounded by nine-year-olds waiting for him to say, "We have a liftoff." Biff was to fly me in an F-14D Tomcat, a ridiculously powerful $60 million weapon with as much thrust as weight. I was worried about getting airsick, so the night before the flight I asked Biff if there was something I should eat the next morning. "Bananas," he said. "For the potassium?" I asked. "No," Biff said, "because they taste about the same coming up as they do going down." The next morning, out on the tarmac, I had on my flight suit with my name sewn over the left breast. (No call sign -- like Crash or Sticky or Leadfoot -- but, still, very cool.) I carried my helmet in the crook of my arm, as Biff had instructed. A fighter pilot named Psycho gave me a safety briefing and then fastened me into my ejection seat, which, when employed, would "egress" me out of the plane at such a velocity that I would be immediately knocked unconscious. Just as I was thinking about aborting the flight, the canopy closed over me, and Biff gave the ground crew a thumbs-up. In minutes we were firing nose up at 600 mph. We leveled out and then canopy- rolled over another F-14. Those 20 minutes were the rush of my life. Unfortunately, the ride lasted 80. It was like being on the roller coaster at Six Flags Over Hell. Only without rails. We did barrel rolls, sap rolls, loops, yanks and banks. We dived, rose and dived again, sometimes with a vertical velocity of 10,000 feet per minute. We chased another F-14, and it chased us. We broke the speed of sound. Sea was sky and sky was sea. Flying at 200 feet we did 90-degree turns at 550 mph, creating a G force of 6.5, which is to say I felt as if 6.5 times my body weight was smashing against me. And I egressed the bananas. I egressed the pizza from the night before. And the lunch before that. I egressed a box of Milk Duds from the sixth grade. I made Linda Blair look polite. Because of the G's, I was egressing stuff that did not even want to be egressed. I went through not one airsick bag, but two. Biff said I passed out. Twice. I was coated in sweat. At one point, as we were coming in upside down in a banked curve on a mock bombing target and the G's were flattening me like a tortilla and I was in and out of consciousness, I realized I was the first person in history to throw down. I used to know cool. Cool was Elway throwing a touchdown pass, or Norman making a five-iron bite. But now I really know cool. Cool is guys like Biff, men with cast-iron stomachs and Freon nerves. I wouldn't go up there again for Derek Jeter's black book, but I'm glad Biff does every day, and for less money per year than a rookie reliever makes in a home stand. A week later, when the spins finally stopped, Biff called. He said he and the fighters had the perfect call sign for me. Said he'd send it on a patch for my flight suit. What is it? I asked. "Two Bags." John D. Davis 319 Virginia Drive Dothan, Alabama 36301 Voice (334) 792-2277 FAX (334) 792-0377 Cell (334) 797-3731 E-mail captainjdd@aol.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:28:14 AM PST US From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Subject: Re: Commander-List: F14 throw down --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Thanks Nico... Great story to start the day. Randy Dettmer 680F/N6253X ----- Original Message ----- From: "css nico" Subject: Commander-List: F14 throw down > --> Commander-List message posted by: "css nico" > > A friend forwarded this to me today. > Nico > > I don' know if all y'all read Sports Illustrated, but this is really funny. > > Rick Reilly is the weekly back cover columnist and even though I don't > always agree with his editorial perspective, he's a good writer with a > great sense of humor. He recently got a chance to fly in an F-14:Wild > Tomcat > > Now this message is for America's most famous athletes: Someday > you may be invited to fly in the back-seat of one of your country's > most powerful fighter jets. Many of you already have -- John Elway, > John Stockton, Tiger Woods to name a few. If you get this > opportunity, let me urge you, with the greatest sincerity ..... > > Move to Guam. Change your name. Fake your own death. Whatever > you do, do not go. I know. > > The U.S. Navy invited me to try it. I was thrilled. I was pumped. I > was toast! > > I should've known when they told me my pilot would be Chip (Biff) > King of Fighter Squadron 213 at Naval Air Station Oceana in Virginia > Beach. Whatever you're thinking a Top Gun named Chip (Biff) King > looks like, triple it. > > He's about six-foot, tan, ice-blue eyes, wavy surfer hair, finger- > crippling handshake -- the kind of man who wrestles dyspeptic > alligators in his leisure time. If you see this man, run the other way. > Fast. Biff King was born to fly. > > His father, Jack King, was for years the voice of NASA missions. > ("T-minus 15 seconds and counting...." Remember?) Chip would > charge neighborhood kids a quarter each to hear his dad. Jack > would wake up from naps surrounded by nine-year-olds waiting for > him to say, "We have a liftoff." > > Biff was to fly me in an F-14D Tomcat, a ridiculously powerful $60 > million weapon with as much thrust as weight. I was worried about > getting airsick, so the night before the flight I asked Biff if there was > something I should eat the next morning. > > "Bananas," he said. > > "For the potassium?" I asked. > > "No," Biff said, "because they taste about the same coming up as > they do going down." > > The next morning, out on the tarmac, I had on my flight suit with my > name sewn over the left breast. (No call sign -- like Crash or Sticky > or Leadfoot -- but, still, very cool.) I carried my helmet in the crook of > my arm, as Biff had instructed. A fighter pilot named Psycho gave > me a safety briefing and then fastened me into my ejection seat, > which, when employed, would "egress" me out of the plane at such > a velocity that I would be immediately knocked unconscious. > > Just as I was thinking about aborting the flight, the canopy closed > over me, and Biff gave the ground crew a thumbs-up. In minutes we > were firing nose up at 600 mph. We leveled out and then canopy- > rolled over another F-14. Those 20 minutes were the rush of my life. > > Unfortunately, the ride lasted 80. > > It was like being on the roller coaster at Six Flags Over Hell. Only > without rails. We did barrel rolls, sap rolls, loops, yanks and banks. > We dived, rose and dived again, sometimes with a vertical velocity of > 10,000 feet per minute. We chased another F-14, and it chased us. > We broke the speed of sound. Sea was sky and sky was sea. > > Flying at 200 feet we did 90-degree turns at 550 mph, creating a G > force of 6.5, which is to say I felt as if 6.5 times my body weight was > smashing against me. > > And I egressed the bananas. I egressed the pizza from the night > before. And the lunch before that. I egressed a box of Milk Duds > from the sixth grade. I made Linda Blair look polite. Because of the > G's, I was egressing stuff that did not even want to be egressed. > > I went through not one airsick bag, but two. Biff said I passed out. > Twice. I was coated in sweat. At one point, as we were coming in > upside down in a banked curve on a mock bombing target and the > G's were flattening me like a tortilla and I was in and out of > consciousness, I realized I was the first person in history to throw down. > > I used to know cool. Cool was Elway throwing a touchdown pass, or > Norman making a five-iron bite. But now I really know cool. Cool is > guys like Biff, men with cast-iron stomachs and Freon nerves. I > wouldn't go up there again for Derek Jeter's black book, but I'm glad > Biff does every day, and for less money per year than a rookie > reliever makes in a home stand. > > A week later, when the spins finally stopped, Biff called. He said he > and the fighters had the perfect call sign for me. Said he'd send it on > a patch for my flight suit. > > What is it? I asked. > > "Two Bags." > > > John D. Davis > 319 Virginia Drive > Dothan, Alabama 36301 > Voice (334) 792-2277 > FAX (334) 792-0377 > Cell (334) 797-3731 > E-mail captainjdd@aol.com > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:38:09 AM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Wanted: Commander to BUY --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com HI GARY... I need totalk to you on the phone. Number?? Thanks!! jb ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:41:40 AM PST US From: TILLMAN333@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Wanted: Commander to BUY --> Commander-List message posted by: TILLMAN333@aol.com 1800.228.4283 0r 706-232-3081 cell. Gary Tillman ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:33:33 AM PST US From: "Brock Lorber - VegasFC" Subject: Commander-List: Aero Design Logo --> Commander-List message posted by: "Brock Lorber - VegasFC" If anyone has a clean copy of the stylized Aero Design Commander logo I would be forever indebted if you e-mailed it to me or faxed it to 702-396-2655. Embroidering it into the aft bulkhead is the method of choice to dress up 400CH. I'm close to rubbing on the rudder pedals with tracing paper and a #2 pencil! Thank you, Brock Lorber ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:53:43 AM PST US From: "css nico" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Aero Design Logo --> Commander-List message posted by: "css nico" Do the Garrett engines turn the props anti-clockwise? I have never flown a turbo prop before and it seems that way from pictures of aircraft with the Garrett engines. Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brock Lorber - VegasFC" Subject: Commander-List: Aero Design Logo > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Brock Lorber - VegasFC" > > If anyone has a clean copy of the stylized Aero Design Commander logo I > would be forever indebted if you e-mailed it to me or faxed it to > 702-396-2655. Embroidering it into the aft bulkhead is the method of > choice to dress up 400CH. > > I'm close to rubbing on the rudder pedals with tracing paper and a #2 > pencil! > > Thank you, > Brock Lorber > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:00:45 AM PST US From: "Kelly Piper" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Aero Design Logo --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kelly Piper" Brock, Check your email - I sent a copy (bmp file) to you of the logo we used for silk-screen on our yoke center plates. Kelly Piper AirMatrix 560A-N2732B -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brock Lorber - VegasFC Subject: Commander-List: Aero Design Logo --> Commander-List message posted by: "Brock Lorber - VegasFC" If anyone has a clean copy of the stylized Aero Design Commander logo I would be forever indebted if you e-mailed it to me or faxed it to 702-396-2655. Embroidering it into the aft bulkhead is the method of choice to dress up 400CH. I'm close to rubbing on the rudder pedals with tracing paper and a #2 pencil! Thank you, Brock Lorber ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:04:32 PM PST US From: "Victor Fernandez Cochon" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Aero Design Logo --> Commander-List message posted by: "Victor Fernandez Cochon" This is the design from where I embroydered all my seats in HI-560-SP Hope this helps you. Victor ----- Original Message ----- From: "css nico" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Aero Design Logo > --> Commander-List message posted by: "css nico" > > Do the Garrett engines turn the props anti-clockwise? I have never flown a > turbo prop before and it seems that way from pictures of aircraft with the > Garrett engines. > Nico > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brock Lorber - VegasFC" > To: > Subject: Commander-List: Aero Design Logo > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Brock Lorber - VegasFC" > > > > > If anyone has a clean copy of the stylized Aero Design Commander logo I > > would be forever indebted if you e-mailed it to me or faxed it to > > 702-396-2655. Embroidering it into the aft bulkhead is the method of > > choice to dress up 400CH. > > > > I'm close to rubbing on the rudder pedals with tracing paper and a #2 > > pencil! > > > > Thank you, > > Brock Lorber > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:35:48 PM PST US From: "Jim Addington" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Aero Design Logo --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" I have a logo that is on my control wheels on my 500A but the back ground is a little messed up. The plane and letters are good. I don't know if that would help or not. If I can figure out how to do it I will put it on the photo part. I scanned it so it is in color. Jim Addington N444BD -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brock Lorber - VegasFC Subject: Commander-List: Aero Design Logo --> Commander-List message posted by: "Brock Lorber - VegasFC" If anyone has a clean copy of the stylized Aero Design Commander logo I would be forever indebted if you e-mailed it to me or faxed it to 702-396-2655. Embroidering it into the aft bulkhead is the method of choice to dress up 400CH. I'm close to rubbing on the rudder pedals with tracing paper and a #2 pencil! Thank you, Brock Lorber ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:22 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Wanted: Commander to BUY --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com Thanks, will do. jb ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:37:11 PM PST US From: rlegg@austarnet.com.au Subject: RE: Commander-List: Aero Design Logo --> Commander-List message posted by: rlegg@austarnet.com.au Hi Kelly, Would greatly appreciate a copy of the logo if possible, for use on a project down here in Oz! Many thanks Russell Legg