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1. 05:35 AM - Re: URGENT...part needed. (Harry Merritt)
2. 06:51 AM - New to the group--hello! (Stan)
3. 08:56 AM - Re: New to the group--hello! (css nico)
4. 09:23 AM - Fw: Turbine Overhaul Management software - ARMS (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
5. 10:30 AM - Re: New to the group--hello! (MOEMILLS@aol.com)
6. 10:41 AM - Re: New to the group--hello! (william bow)
7. 12:05 PM - Propellors (css nico)
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| Subject: | Re: URGENT...part needed. |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Harry Merritt" <avtec2@bellsouth.net>
I Have the Pumps and Motors, Capt> Jim Bob want you to purchase from Commander
Aero!@@!@!
If You still want The Pump and motors Let me Know ASAP1
Thanks Harry
----- Original Message -----
From: Ricardo A. Otaola
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: URGENT...part needed.
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Ricardo A. Otaola" <otayca@telcel.net.ve>
Harry:
I am waiting for you regarding the RG-9790-2 fuel electric pump and valve
for the AC-680F. Any news??
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry Merritt" <avtec2@bellsouth.net>
To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: URGENT...part needed.
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Harry Merritt"
<avtec2@bellsouth.net>
>
> 321 267-3141
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ricardo A. Otaola
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:21 PM
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: URGENT...part needed.
>
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Ricardo A. Otaola"
<otayca@telcel.net.ve>
>
> I have tried severla times to call you but I can not get through. Is
that
> the correct number??
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harry Merritt" <avtec2@bellsouth.net>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: URGENT...part needed.
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Harry Merritt"
> <avtec2@bellsouth.net>
> >
> > i Have a Servicable Enging and stand by Pump
> > Harry
> > 321 256-3141
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ricardo A. Otaola
> > To: commander-list@matronics.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: URGENT...part needed.
> >
> >
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Ricardo A. Otaola"
> <otayca@telcel.net.ve>
> >
> > Hi there:
> >
> > On the same token, on my 680F I need the fuel pump part #
RG-167857.
> > Randy, what are you lookin for. I will try and find it down here.
> >
> > Barry, I ran into N9382R downhere in Venezuela. Any news??
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Randy Dettmer" <rcdettmer@charter.net>
> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Commander-List: URGENT...part needed.
> >
> >
> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: Randy Dettmer
> > <rcdettmer@charter.net>
> > >
> > > Trying to get my 680F out of annual this week for a scheduled trip
> Friday.
> > > Morris tells me that I need a new structural channel on top of the
> Left
> > > Engine nacelle - Part #5260020-207, Left hand outboard channel,
for
> > > airplanes serial numbers 1031 and up ONLY. Parts Manual Vol 2
Chapter
> 10,
> > > page 31, item 105.
> > >
> > > Can anybody help...ASAP..??
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Randy Dettmer
> > > 680F/N6253X
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | New to the group--hello! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Stan" <swperk@earthlink.net>
Hello all,
I just joined the TCFG and look forward to a lot of good times with all of
you.
I received my student pilot training in my dad's 680E, got my pilot's
license (multi engine rating only) on my 17th birthday, and had to
temporarily "unlearn" Commander flying to get my single engine rating a few
months later in a 172.
My dad has owned two 680Es and a 680W, so we both have a lot of time in
Commanders and are fairly familiar with their strong and weak points. My dad
sold his 680W in the early 80's, and although I've flown other twins since
then (mainly a friend's Baron), we are itching to get back into a Commander.
We like the 680FLP and 685, but *really* want a Turbo if it's feasible.
We've looked at a number of ads, and talked to several people, but are
always interested in new opinions, insights, and leads. We would like to
keep the "out the door" price (purchase plus all necessary repairs,
inspections, and annual) under $250K. We've heard about a few relatively
cheap "project" planes out there, and although we're not averse to buying
one that needs work, it would have to be one that will be worth what we put
into it when all is said and done. We definitely don't want to end up with a
gorgeous, well-equipped Commander that can't be flown because of a mandatory
repair that costs more than the whole aircraft would be worth, or even
worse, needing an essential part that is no longer available.
I welcome all advice. Thanks in advance!
Stan Perkins
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| Subject: | Re: New to the group--hello! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "css nico" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
That's a novel approach: ab initio training in a 680E.
Welcome Stan.
Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan" <swperk@earthlink.net>
Subject: Commander-List: New to the group--hello!
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Stan" <swperk@earthlink.net>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I just joined the TCFG and look forward to a lot of good times with all of
> you.
>
> I received my student pilot training in my dad's 680E, got my pilot's
> license (multi engine rating only) on my 17th birthday, and had to
> temporarily "unlearn" Commander flying to get my single engine rating a
few
> months later in a 172.
>
> My dad has owned two 680Es and a 680W, so we both have a lot of time in
> Commanders and are fairly familiar with their strong and weak points. My
dad
> sold his 680W in the early 80's, and although I've flown other twins since
> then (mainly a friend's Baron), we are itching to get back into a
Commander.
> We like the 680FLP and 685, but *really* want a Turbo if it's feasible.
>
> We've looked at a number of ads, and talked to several people, but are
> always interested in new opinions, insights, and leads. We would like to
> keep the "out the door" price (purchase plus all necessary repairs,
> inspections, and annual) under $250K. We've heard about a few relatively
> cheap "project" planes out there, and although we're not averse to buying
> one that needs work, it would have to be one that will be worth what we
put
> into it when all is said and done. We definitely don't want to end up with
a
> gorgeous, well-equipped Commander that can't be flown because of a
mandatory
> repair that costs more than the whole aircraft would be worth, or even
> worse, needing an essential part that is no longer available.
>
> I welcome all advice. Thanks in advance!
>
> Stan Perkins
>
>
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| Subject: | Fwd: Turbine Overhaul Management software - ARMS |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
From: "Miguel Foncerrada" <miguelf@ibapps.com>
Subject: Turbine Overhaul Management software - ARMS
Dear Sirs,
The ARMS (Aerospace Repairable Management System) is designed for managing
the repair and overhaul of Turbines. It easily capture all costs and
turn-around-times to help complete the work on schedule and on budget. It
makes quoting and invoicing a repair and overhaul an easy process by
capturing expenses and performing automatic markups.
Could you please forward this to the appropriate person within your company
that is in charge of computer systems.
To see a demonstration of the software please view:
http://www.ibapps.com/html/woturbine.htm.
Should you desire more information please contact me at 858-674-7377 or via
E-mail for an electronic brochure or a software demonstration.
Thank you and Best Regards,
Miguel Foncerrada
==================================================
Miguel Foncerrada
ARMS - Aerospace Repairable Management System
Internet Business Applications, Inc. www.ibapps.com
185 West F Street, Ste. 100
San Diego, CA 92101
Direct: 858-674-7377
Mobile: 858-204-3258
Office: 619-234-5830
miguelf@ibapps.com
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| Subject: | Re: New to the group--hello! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com
Dear Stan,
Welcome to the group!
If you purchase a 680F(p) or a 680Fp you can avoid the dreaded rotary
poisoning which is so common on the turbine models. (Just kidding, I am in the
piston business.)
Seriously, I have a 680F(p) and love it. The wing spar AD on this model is
not as severe as it is on several other models.
Best regards,
Moe Mills
N680RR
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| Subject: | Re: New to the group--hello! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "william bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
Welcome Stan.
bilbo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan" <swperk@earthlink.net>
Subject: Commander-List: New to the group--hello!
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Stan" <swperk@earthlink.net>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I just joined the TCFG and look forward to a lot of good times with all of
> you.
>
> I received my student pilot training in my dad's 680E, got my pilot's
> license (multi engine rating only) on my 17th birthday, and had to
> temporarily "unlearn" Commander flying to get my single engine rating a
few
> months later in a 172.
>
> My dad has owned two 680Es and a 680W, so we both have a lot of time in
> Commanders and are fairly familiar with their strong and weak points. My
dad
> sold his 680W in the early 80's, and although I've flown other twins since
> then (mainly a friend's Baron), we are itching to get back into a
Commander.
> We like the 680FLP and 685, but *really* want a Turbo if it's feasible.
>
> We've looked at a number of ads, and talked to several people, but are
> always interested in new opinions, insights, and leads. We would like to
> keep the "out the door" price (purchase plus all necessary repairs,
> inspections, and annual) under $250K. We've heard about a few relatively
> cheap "project" planes out there, and although we're not averse to buying
> one that needs work, it would have to be one that will be worth what we
put
> into it when all is said and done. We definitely don't want to end up with
a
> gorgeous, well-equipped Commander that can't be flown because of a
mandatory
> repair that costs more than the whole aircraft would be worth, or even
> worse, needing an essential part that is no longer available.
>
> I welcome all advice. Thanks in advance!
>
> Stan Perkins
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "css nico" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
I have a question about propellors in general and some of you guys are very
knowledgeable on technical matters. I have learned more about seemingly
simple issues here than anywhere in a course or book about general aviation.
It has to do with the aspect ratio of a propellor blade. From what I
remember from groundschool is that higher aspect ratio airfoils have lower
drag and are more conducive to higher altitude flying, while lower aspect
ratios would be more useful in slow speed, lower altitude flying. If the
propellor blade is nothing other than a rotating airfoil, then why do some
aircraft (turbines particularly) have high aspect ratio blades while others
seem to have low aspect ratio blades, which make them appear rather short
and stubby, like the Piper Meridian and the Pilatus. Don't turbines perform
better at high altitudes, excluding the Cessna 208 perhaps, and would,
therefore, do better with high aspect ratio blades?
Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: <MOEMILLS@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: New to the group--hello!
> --> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com
>
> Dear Stan,
>
> Welcome to the group!
>
> If you purchase a 680F(p) or a 680Fp you can avoid the dreaded rotary
> poisoning which is so common on the turbine models. (Just kidding, I am
in the
> piston business.)
>
> Seriously, I have a 680F(p) and love it. The wing spar AD on this model
is
> not as severe as it is on several other models.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Moe Mills
> N680RR
>
>
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