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1. 06:40 AM - Re: Fuel Pumps (W J R HAMILTON)
2. 06:42 AM - Re: Congratulations TCFG! (Chris Schuermann)
3. 08:00 AM - Re: Congratulations TCFG! (Buddy Windham)
4. 05:02 PM - 560 BRAKES (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
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--> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON <wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au>
Bill,
Thanks for the tip, I usually use Thunder Aviation in Sun Valley,
California, but in part I am taking their advice, which is to go to modern
pumps.
I always carry a spare pump in the T-28, but I can still buy those new old
stock, Thunder just check them over, new seals etc, and give me an 8130.3.
For my 500A, I need a spare, everywhere is a long way from anywhere in
Australia, and the quotes for a spare, OHC, and Thunder's advice, have
pointed me in this direction.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton.
At 23:17 3/09/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
>
>This is probably no help, but http://www.aircraftaccessoriesofok.com/ will
>overhaul it. They have done 2 of mine and they work.
>
>Having said that you are going the RIGHT WAY with externally mounted pumps.
>If you get a bad overhaul you don't need to de-fuel the tanks. There are
>places on this airplane where there was "too much colledge and not enough
>high school"
>
>bilbo
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "W J R HAMILTON" <wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au>
>To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Commander-List: Fuel Pumps
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON
><wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au>
> >
> > All,
> > Thank you all for the replies, it does look like the Lycoming aircraft are
> > well covered, and I will contact Central Air.
> > I must re-look at the FAA STC database, I have missed that one.
> >
> > However, the problem remains for the very few aircraft like the 500A with
> > IO-470 TCM engines, so I am still searching for specifications for the
>Adel
> > 55895-1 pump, AC P/N 626062-3-A6, which is only on the 500A.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me the fate of Adel, the only hits on various search
> > engines are all Adel-Wiggins, and we all know and love "Adel Clamps",
>where
> > would we be without them.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bill Hamilton.
> >
> >
> > At 11:15 3/09/03 -0300, you wrote:
> > >--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jimmy Rodriguez"
><jimmyr@popsecs.com>
> > >
> > >Bill,
> > >
> > >I've heard that John Towner at Central Air might have done this already.
>I
> > >would also like to know for the future. Contact him at
> > >johntowner@centralairsouthwest.com
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >
> > >Jimmy Rodriguez
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> > >[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of W J R
> > >HAMILTON
> > >To: commander-list@matronics.com
> > >Subject: Commander-List: Fuel Pumps
> > >
> > >
> > >--> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON
> > ><wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au>
> > >
> > >All,
> > >It's become rather clear to me that the electric fuel pumps in early
> > >Commanders are getting close to extinction, the quality of overhauls is
>not
> > >improving, the parts are becoming harder and harder to find. Had a look
>for
> > >an armature recently??
> > >
> > >For my 500A, I am considering a mod to substitute more modern and easily
> > >available pumps, external to the tanks, as on many aircraft.
> > >
> > >Here in Australia we have what we call a Reg.35 or CAR 35 ( Civil
>Aviation
> > >Regulation) Engineer, a bit like a Part 183 DER, but not quite, and a
> > >system equivalent to a field approval, where the design for a
>modification
> > >is both developed and certified by the "CAR 35" Engineer. This is the
>route
> > >I will go, and given the basic recognition FAA accords our local
>standards,
> > >this will be a good starting point for anybody wanting to do similar mod.
> > >to a US registered aircraft.
> > >
> > >Once the mod package is done, I will be quite happy to make the details
> > >available to anybody considering the same modification.
> > >
> > >I have not noticed any STC's on the list, does anybody know of any
>existing
> > >similar mods., to save me reinventing the wheel ??
> > >
> > >Does anybody out there have the performance specifications for the
>various
> > >Adel pumps used ?? This is the starting point.
> > >
> > >For the 500A the Aero Commander Part No. is # 626062-3-A6, the Adel Part
> > >No. is #55895-1
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Bill hamilton.
> > >
> > >
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CHANGES: All Recipients Please Note.
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<wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au>
<airboss@warbirds.net><hamilton@warbirds.net> and
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All phone numbers remain unchanged, but changes will take place in about
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| Subject: | Re: Congratulations TCFG! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net>
css nico wrote:
> Thanks for the note, Chris. Nice to hear from you again.
> I hope your business is getting some decent traction.
Thanks Nico!
Business is finally starting to pick back up a bit. There was so much
red ink over the last two years the balance sheet looked like a prop
from the "Texas chainsaw massacre"! Sadly, aviation was one of the
first things impacted. I'm finally back in the air and have really been
enjoying my Aztruck. What a sweet little twin to fly on a tight budget.
> You may or may not know that I owned a straight
> 500 for a long time and never even bothered to look at the trusses.
I actually did not know that. I definitly didn't intend to frighten
anyone, but I do feel strongly that this is an issue to be dealt with
proactivly rather than waiting for the eventual trauma to occur. An
inspection of this part should fall under normal inspection proceedures
except that the critical area is hidden and a lot of folks just don't
know to look there. Right now, it's a simple issue of identifying a
damaged part and repairing or replacing as required. If someone does
have an inflight failure, it could end up being a blemish on the
perception of Commanders and we don't need another one of those! We all
know that the FAA would issue some draconian AD requiring a total
rebuild of the wing structure or something like that. There's also a
side brace in the nacelle that attaches to the wing spar at the extreme
forward/outboard edge that seems to need inspection as well. The attach
point in my 520 was 90% rotted through and probably would have failed if
I'd have made a crossed-up landing. Fortunatly, the FAA is looking to
"type clubs" for assistance in assuring that all the old airplanes are
being maintained in a safe condition. The TCFG is just going to become
more and more valuable in protecting the value of these airplanes and
the safety of the owners as time goes on.
> Stay healthy and write more often!
Thanks again Nico. I'll endevor to do both! Take care.
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Congratulations TCFG! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Buddy Windham <bw_cycon@yahoo.com>
Hey guys, this problem existed on my 560e. I got it fixed with a 8110 from Fred
Gates out of Oklahoma, basically by using doubler plates after removing all corrision
and an eddie current test. THIS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM WITH OUR FLEET. THE
CORRISON SEEM BY THE EYE IS LESS THAN 50% OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY PRESENT.
Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net> wrote:--> Commander-List message posted by:
Chris Schuermann
css nico wrote:
> Thanks for the note, Chris. Nice to hear from you again.
> I hope your business is getting some decent traction.
Thanks Nico!
Business is finally starting to pick back up a bit. There was so much
red ink over the last two years the balance sheet looked like a prop
from the "Texas chainsaw massacre"! Sadly, aviation was one of the
first things impacted. I'm finally back in the air and have really been
enjoying my Aztruck. What a sweet little twin to fly on a tight budget.
> You may or may not know that I owned a straight
> 500 for a long time and never even bothered to look at the trusses.
I actually did not know that. I definitly didn't intend to frighten
anyone, but I do feel strongly that this is an issue to be dealt with
proactivly rather than waiting for the eventual trauma to occur. An
inspection of this part should fall under normal inspection proceedures
except that the critical area is hidden and a lot of folks just don't
know to look there. Right now, it's a simple issue of identifying a
damaged part and repairing or replacing as required. If someone does
have an inflight failure, it could end up being a blemish on the
perception of Commanders and we don't need another one of those! We all
know that the FAA would issue some draconian AD requiring a total
rebuild of the wing structure or something like that. There's also a
side brace in the nacelle that attaches to the wing spar at the extreme
forward/outboard edge that seems to need inspection as well. The attach
point in my 520 was 90% rotted through and probably would have failed if
I'd have made a crossed-up landing. Fortunatly, the FAA is looking to
"type clubs" for assistance in assuring that all the old airplanes are
being maintained in a safe condition. The TCFG is just going to become
more and more valuable in protecting the value of these airplanes and
the safety of the owners as time goes on.
> Stay healthy and write more often!
Thanks again Nico. I'll endevor to do both! Take care.
Chris
Buddy Windham, President
Cycon Enterprises, Inc.
General Contractors/Construction Management/Design Build Services
0-608 Quincy Street S.W.
Grandville, Michigan 49418
616 896-6488 office
616 896-6490 fax
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
HI KIDS..
I have been contacted by a Service Center who is trying to install a
set of Cleveland's on a straight 560 (no STC) I know we have addressed this
before, does anybody have the name of a 560 owner who has done this who might
share their 337 form?? Thanks. jb
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