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1. 07:56 AM - Re: grease your nuts (Jim Addington)
2. 10:46 AM - 90C inspection (MOEMILLS@aol.com)
3. 11:35 AM - Re: 90C inspection (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
4. 12:32 PM - Re: grease your nuts (Bill Bow)
5. 07:49 PM - Re: Welcome to commander-list-digest (Dan Dominguez)
6. 10:51 PM - Re: 90C inspection (Alan Kucheck)
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Subject: | grease your nuts |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
I have to agree. I bought an engine with 500 hours on and after letting it
sit for several years decided to put it on the plane. We put new rod
bearings and overhauled the cylinders and it has been running for 500 hrs
now with out any problems. It may quit tomorrow but that has been several
years of flying. I have to agree with JB that you might need to look at
getting a second opinion.
Jim Addington
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Subject: Re: Commander-List: grease your nuts
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 10/9/2003 3:08:19 PM Pacific Standard Time,
bowing74@earthlink.net writes:
> 2 rods
> are sloppy.
What?? I have never heard of anything like that. Get a second opinion. If
indeed the rods are "sloppy" then remove them, mich the journal. I'll bet
it
is still standard dimension, replace the rod bearings with new ones to
"service limits" (that is why the mfg. has service limits) and press on.
There is
absolutely no reason to overhaul an otherwise low time engine. I am
serious, I
think you are getting some really bad advice here. Continentals are not
know
for articulating group problems and I have never heard of anybody who could
tell if a rod is "sloppy" without disassembling it. All aircraft engines
have
large clearance values. Sloppy rods, really??
On another note, I feel your pain ($$). Last month it was a grand
for
new brake discs and linings. This month it is $500 for new motor mount
rubbers. And, both oil bladders are leaking, about a grand each!! These
don't
exactly jump out of the box and into your airplane. I still havent finished
the
modest avionics package I had planed for the airplane. But at least I ahve
flow it almost 400hrs.
I know it can be discouraging and Commander ownership really isn't
for
everybody but I do wonder about some of the issues you are facing and think
I
would be checking with another maintenance facility.
Good luck and I hope you at least look into the rod thing jb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com
J.B.
Finally got my information together for the 90C inspection to my 680F(p). As
you remember mention was made at the conference in Dayton that we should send
the paper work in, to support the stand that the inspection is not justified.
Problem is, I lost my note on who to send the inspection report to. Help!
Moe
N680RR
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Subject: | Re: 90C inspection |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 10/13/2003 10:47:23 AM Pacific Standard Time,
MOEMILLS@aol.com writes:
> Help!
>
THANKS MOE....
Send it to Twin Commander Aircraft Corp 19010 59th dr.
n.e., arlington wa 98223 att Geoffery Pence.. jb
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Subject: | Re: grease your nuts |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
Thanks,
The term "sloppy" was my own term. There is s significant "difference" in
the for and aft play of two of the three rods on the same bank.
Once I remove the rods I will mic the crank. I am not going to overhaul it
until I know what I have. The shop has not suggested an overhaul. He
provides me the basic info and I am allowed to make the decision when there
are options. I may have gotten carried away in the "frustration of the
moment". Right now having him remove the rods and mic them, a Top
Overhaul,or a Major are all equally out of reach. They look about the same
money wise at this point.
bilbo
> 2 rods
> are sloppy.
What?? I have never heard of anything like that. Get a second opinion. If
indeed the rods are "sloppy" then remove them, mich the journal. I'll bet
it
is still standard dimension, replace the rod bearings with new ones to
"service limits" (that is why the mfg. has service limits) and press on.
There is
absolutely no reason to overhaul an otherwise low time engine. I am
serious, I
think you are getting some really bad advice here. Continentals are not
know
for articulating group problems and I have never heard of anybody who could
tell if a rod is "sloppy" without disassembling it. All aircraft engines
have
large clearance values. Sloppy rods, really??
On another note, I feel your pain ($$). Last month it was a grand
for
new brake discs and linings. This month it is $500 for new motor mount
rubbers. And, both oil bladders are leaking, about a grand each!! These
don't
exactly jump out of the box and into your airplane. I still havent finished
the
modest avionics package I had planed for the airplane. But at least I ahve
flow it almost 400hrs.
I know it can be discouraging and Commander ownership really isn't
for
everybody but I do wonder about some of the issues you are facing and think
I
would be checking with another maintenance facility.
Good luck and I hope you at least look into the rod thing jb
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Subject: | Re: Welcome to commander-list-digest |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Dan Dominguez" <dan@worldflight2000.com>
nico-
great idea. chris and I are still in the early process of adding this to the existing
aercommander web page. we will keep you posed on this development and
database creation. after speaking with fellow 500A driver Dr. Kucheck, a possible
online maintenance log available free of charge for Commander Group members
could soon be a possibility. keep a close eye for improvements coming weekly
on the existing web page. it's feedback like you're that keeps us all better
informed.
blue skies.
dan
This list has done wonders exchanging information between Commander
enthusiasts, but would it be of value setting up an exchange board, so if
someone has anything aviation related to sell, trade, barter, or give away,
one could publish it? Right now it's by email and if one misses the email,
it's quite a chore trying to find it again in the archive. One could publish
services of CFIs, examiners, insurance brokers with a prove track record
with Commanderites, and so on. Take your need for an engine or shell or
perhaps just spares, for instance. If someone in Australia or South Africa
has an engine and knows about your plight, such an exchange board may
facilitate the connection. You may find someone who would want to take the
good engine off your hands opening opportunities to invest in Colemills. Who
knows?
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Alan Kucheck" <akucheck@hotmail.com>
I'm coming up on my 90C pretty soon now on my 500A. What is a reasonable
expectation for labor/cost for this inspection?
Thanks,
ak
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> Of MOEMILLS@aol.com
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 10:46 AM
> To: COMMANDER-LIST@matronics.com
> Subject: Commander-List: 90C inspection
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> --> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com
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> J.B.
>
> Finally got my information together for the 90C inspection to
> my 680F(p). As
> you remember mention was made at the conference in Dayton
> that we should send
> the paper work in, to support the stand that the inspection
> is not justified.
> Problem is, I lost my note on who to send the inspection
> report to. Help!
>
> Moe
> N680RR
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