---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 12/06/03: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:59 AM - Bittersweet week in commander land (Don) 2. 09:22 AM - Re: Bittersweet week in commander land (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 3. 09:36 AM - Re: Bittersweet week in commander land (COMMANDER560@cs.com) 4. 03:28 PM - 680E won't be.... (Barry Hancock) 5. 05:45 PM - Re: Bittersweet week in commander land (css nico) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:59:46 AM PST US From: Don Subject: Commander-List: Bittersweet week in commander land --> Commander-List message posted by: Don Ended this week in a helluva flight in a 560A. Left Seattle in the rain at 03:30 Pacific time Friday AM after a 10 hour Trek on a commercial crowd killer getting there. 4 hours through rain and ice to Medford Oregon. Fuel and fuel then back into the rain and ice to Bakersfield Kalyfoorniia. Broke out of the weather just before Palm Springs and turned left for Demming New Mexico. Somewhere over the mountains the comm navs shit the bed and the rest of the trip was on handheld GPS and comm. Deming to Abilene Texas landing VFR in the dark, then a final 3 and 1/2 hour leg to Gulfport Misissippi. About 20 hrs in the air total. What a great flight listening to those geared buggers growl. Earlier in the week I had flown one of my saddest flights ever. Milt sold N414C and I ferried it to it's new owner. Over the last 2 years Milt and I singly and together had put closer to 600hrs on 414Cs airframe. Taking one set of engines well past TBO and getting a good start on a set of remans. We had flown it coast to coast at least twice. Most of our time in Charlie was in real dog crap weather slinging ice and many approaches to minimums while dodging thunderstorms. I cannot count the times we crossed the Gulf from Gulfport to Fort Meyers and back. Often behind a dissipating hurricane and once straight accross the center of a tropical depression. The 685 is one tough bird and 414C was a sweet example of a 685. I'm sure Milt will miss her. It seems N414C is about to become an air ambulance. Milt took delivery of his new Cessna 414 Wednesday. His only comment " It sure ain"t 414C" Tough week of flying but great flights. And didn't have to call Morris or get parts from Harry. Don (little crunk) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:22:22 AM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Bittersweet week in commander land --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 12/6/2003 3:00:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, crunk1@direcway.com writes: > Tough week of flying but great flights. And didn't have to call Morris or > get parts from Harry. Great story and great to hear from you!! What was the 560A like?? Were you moving it for someone else or are you an owner?? Sad to hear about Milt, I doubt he will be long with the 141. I hope he comes back into the fold soon. Tell all "Hi" jb ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:36:02 AM PST US From: COMMANDER560@cs.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Bittersweet week in commander land --> Commander-List message posted by: COMMANDER560@cs.com Don, send me a email or call me, 678-481-4544. J.R., commander560@cs.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:28:49 PM PST US Subject: Commander-List: 680E won't be.... From: Barry Hancock --> Commander-List message posted by: Barry Hancock ...home for Christmas, but she will return to the skies in the foreseeable future as I have found a way to raise the cash necessary for the, uh, restoration of the gear trusses, engine mounts, etc. If I have my way this will be the beginning of a more complete restoration that will include an airframe, engine, and systems IRAN... Hope all is well in Commander Land.... Cheers, Barry Barry Hancock Director of Operations Red Stars, Inc. 949.300.5510 www.allredstar.com "Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes" ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:22 PM PST US From: "css nico" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Bittersweet week in commander land --> Commander-List message posted by: "css nico" Nice flight Don. Milt's experience is quite interesting. Why did he go for the Cessna 414? Wouldn't a Dash 10 Commander have been a better option? I am always learning by the choices other folks make because they think about things differently. Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don" Subject: Commander-List: Bittersweet week in commander land > --> Commander-List message posted by: Don > > Ended this week in a helluva flight in a 560A. > Left Seattle in the rain at 03:30 Pacific time Friday AM after a 10 hour Trek on a commercial crowd killer getting there. > 4 hours through rain and ice to Medford Oregon. Fuel and fuel then back into the rain and ice to Bakersfield Kalyfoorniia. > Broke out of the weather just before Palm Springs and turned left for Demming New Mexico. Somewhere over the mountains the comm navs shit the bed and the rest of the trip was on handheld GPS and comm. Deming to Abilene Texas landing VFR in the dark, then a final 3 and 1/2 hour leg to Gulfport Misissippi. About 20 hrs in the air total. What a great flight listening to those geared buggers growl. > > Earlier in the week I had flown one of my saddest flights ever. Milt sold N414C and I ferried it to it's new owner. Over the last 2 years Milt and I singly and together had put closer to 600hrs on 414Cs airframe. Taking one set of engines well past TBO and getting a good start on a set of remans. We had flown it coast to coast at least twice. > Most of our time in Charlie was in real dog crap weather slinging ice and many approaches to minimums while dodging thunderstorms. I cannot count the times we crossed the Gulf from Gulfport to Fort Meyers and back. Often behind a dissipating hurricane and once straight accross the center of a tropical depression. > The 685 is one tough bird and 414C was a sweet example of a 685. I'm sure Milt will miss her. It seems N414C is about to become an air ambulance. > > Milt took delivery of his new Cessna 414 Wednesday. His only comment " It sure ain"t 414C" > > Tough week of flying but great flights. And didn't have to call Morris or get parts from Harry. > > Don (little crunk) > >